Australia V China

**harrybarracuda** · 20-04-2022, 09:07 AM

So how long before the Solomons is handing over its fishing rights to the chinkies to pay off the "Belt and Owed" debt I wonder? And how much more will they borrow to pay for the chinkies to build a six lane motorway where a single lane road suffices?

Not long I fancy. Cake tins already handed over.

**OhOh** · 20-04-2022, 10:34 AM

"There may be trouble ahead".

US’ high-level visit to Solomon Islands aims to nullify China security pact, uses region as hegemonic fulcrum

By, Xu KeyueKhan Jie

Published: Apr 19, 2022 11:17 PM

"After Australia failed to sway the Solomon Islands to thwart the security agreement with China, senior US officials plan to travel to the country this week in an attempt to nullify the already signed security pact, which will be a rare high-level visit with pressure by the superpower.

White House Indo-Pacific coordinator Kurt Campbell and the State Department's top official for Asia will travel to the Solomon Islands, the White House said on Monday, amid "concerns" that the Pacific island country is making a security pact with China, according to Reuters."

Continues at:

US’ high-level visit to Solomon Islands aims to nullify China security pact, uses region as hegemonic fulcrum - Global Times

**Backspin** · 20-04-2022, 10:57 AM

Aus diplomatic magazine calls for Australia to bomb the capital city of the Solomans.

At least now everyone knows why the Ukraine war happened. This is great power politics 101. And everyone does it. Even "democracies"

Bomb Honiara - MacroBusiness

Australia now has no choice. It must force the deal to be retracted or it must force the Sogavare Government out of power.

No Chinese base can be allowed to commence construction in the Solomon Islands. It is a clear and present threat to Australian sovereignty and freedom.

Once construction starts, to prevent it is war with China

**panama hat** · 20-04-2022, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by TTraveler

It China's cities it is about the same cost as in the US

And more in places like Shanghai and Beijing.

Originally Posted by TTraveler

Rural China is so far behind in Tech and living standards that it can't be compared. It is rural China that brings it down and it is like traveling back to the Qing dynasty in some places.

Poverty isn't unusual in rural areas . . . correct.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Aus diplomatic magazine calls for Australia to bomb the capital city of the Solomans.

Why do you lie so much?

**Backspin** · 20-04-2022, 09:37 PM

^ reading comprehension problems

BREAKING: Australian Commentator David Llewellyn-Smith, who contributes to the Sydney Morning Herald and founded "The Diplomat" has penned an op-ed in "MacroBusiness" calling for bombing the Solomon Islands, regime change and "forcing its government out of power".
https://twitter.com/SilksworthPost/s...7mBaxT9xg&s=19

**Looper** · 21-04-2022, 01:02 AM

This is bad juju

I have messaged Miss Solomon Islands, who emails me occasionally since she went home in January 2020, to urge her to rise up and reject the chinky overtures or overthrow the corrupt Sogavare regime

Sogavare is from Choiseul which is MSI's home island, although she lives in Honiara now

Fun and games

**hallelujah** · 21-04-2022, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Looper

This is bad juju

I have messaged Miss Solomon Islands, who emails me occasionally since she went home in January 2020, to urge her to rise up and reject the chinky overtures or overthrow the corrupt Sogavare regime

Sogavare is from Choiseul which is MSI's home island, although she lives in Honiara now

Fun and games

If it's the same bird I think it is, if she rises up anymore she'll probably be able to beat the Chinese on her own.

**baldrick** · 21-04-2022, 07:18 AM

the patronage politics that signals a 3rd world society and it rife throughout PNG and the Solomons is something that the Liberal national party excels at - not to mention the god bothering

maybe if they spent more time concentrating on strengthening the educational , medical , policing and judiciary and not concentrating on the deals that allow importing cheap labour to sell to the farming industry things would be better

**Backspin** · 21-04-2022, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Looper

This is bad juju

I have messaged Miss Solomon Islands, who emails me occasionally since she went home in January 2020, to urge her to rise up and reject the chinky overtures or overthrow the corrupt Sogavare regime

Sogavare is from Choiseul which is MSI's home island, although she lives in Honiara now

Fun and games

**sabang** · 21-04-2022, 07:41 AM

Another foreign policy triumph for the scomo blowhard team! Oh dear, have they lost face?

**harrybarracuda** · 21-04-2022, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by sabang

Another foreign policy triumph for the scomo blowhard team! Oh dear, have they lost face?

It's OK they'll be back bleating for help soon enough.

The Solomons has already had anti-chinky riots to protest their parasitism.

Won't be long before whatever corrupt arseholes took the cake tins are out on their arses.

**OhOh** · 21-04-2022, 10:56 AM

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on April 20, 2022

"Phoenix TV:

On the signing of the security agreement between China and Solomon Islands, Spokesperson of the US National Security Council Adrienne Watson issued a statement on April 19 saying that the US, Japan, New Zealand and Australia shared concerns about this security framework agreement and its serious risks to a free and open Indo-Pacific. Do you have any response?

Wang Wenbin:

China and Solomon Islands conduct security cooperation on the basis of equality, mutual benefit, openness and transparency, to help Solomon Islands maintain social order, tackle natural disasters and carry out humanitarian aid. The cooperation is not targeted at any third party and does not replace existing bilateral and multilateral mechanisms of Solomon Islands’ security cooperation. I don’t understand how our cooperation poses “serious risks” to the US.

If the US line of argument is followed, does that mean the Pacific Island countries can only carry out security cooperation with the US and its few allies?

Does that mean cooperation with other countries are deemed threats?

Does the US see the Pacific Island countries as independent and sovereign states or its dependencies?

Is the US seeking to develop equal-footed relations with the Pacific Island countries or control them? All these are questions for the US to answer."

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on April 20, 2022

A free and open Pacific, or subject to some foreign overloads veto?

Time for the Solomon Islands government to repatriate any assets in NaGastan and allies "jurisdiction", to a more secure location.

**panama hat** · 21-04-2022, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Backspin

^ reading comprehension problems

Originally Posted by Backspin

Aus diplomatic magazine calls for Australia to bomb the capital city of the Solomans.

Nope, you're still a lying cvnt.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Australian Commentator David Llewellyn-Smith, who .... founded "The Diplomat"

**pickel** · 21-04-2022, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Time for the Solomon Islands government to repatriate any assets in NaGastan and allies "jurisdiction", to a more secure location.

So the chinkies can steal it when the debt comes due?

**OhOh** · 22-04-2022, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by pickel

So the chinkies can steal it when the debt comes due?

Unlike some "exceptional" countries China is not stealing anybodies assets.

Or do you have some evidence of such actions to share with us?

**pickel** · 22-04-2022, 11:46 AM

How China's Belt And Road Became A 'Global Trail Of Trouble'

It was in Sri Lanka that the deficiencies of China’s international development activities were first revealed globally. China partnered with Sri Lanka’s former president, Mahinda Rajapaksa, who now faces allegations of financial irregularities, to build a series of infrastructure mega-projects in Hambantota, a vastly undeveloped region on the island nation’s southern coast. To start, the plan called for a new deep sea port, an airport, a stadium, a giant conference center and many miles of new roadways. These projects were mostly funded with loans from China, which a few years later Sri Lanka struggled to pay back, as the country sunk into a debt trap of its own making.

How China's Belt And Road Became A 'Global Trail Of Trouble'

**harrybarracuda** · 22-04-2022, 11:54 AM

It's fucking funny seeing hoohoo desperately trying to claim "Belt and Owed" is a good thing, when it leaves a trail of debt and destruction in its wake.

Sri Lankans giving up ports, African countries handing over their fish stocks, Laos villages unable to farm their land because the chinkies drenched it in toxic pesticides... the list goes on and on despite the chinkies trying to hide the truth and idiots like hoohoo parroting their nonsense.

**panama hat** · 22-04-2022, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It's fucking funny seeing hoohoo desperately trying to claim "Belt and Owed" is a good thing

Well, it is . . . for China. At the moment. Let's see what the long-term repercussions are when to money-belt is strangled and the cost of wanting so desperately to be a world power hit home

**OhOh** · 22-04-2022, 02:47 PM

As you post yourself.

Originally Posted by pickel

of its own making

**Shutree** · 22-04-2022, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by pickel

So the chinkies can steal it when the debt comes due?

We don't know, partly because Chinese loans mostly seem to include non-disclosure agreements so the terms and conditions cannot be published. The Paris Club and western lenders generally don't do this. NDAs will make it difficult for Sri Lanka and the IMF.

**OhOh** · 22-04-2022, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Shutree

Chinese loans mostly seem to include non-disclosure agreements

Originally Posted by Shutree

The Paris Club and western lenders generally don't do this

Bigots got to broadcast!

Originally Posted by Shutree

We don't know,

It appears some bigots, here on TD, who have not seen the confidential contracts and yet continue to state quite categorically, they know all the contracts details.

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on April 21, 2022

"AFP:
The US State Department has expressed concern about the lack of transparency of China’s security agreement with Solomon Islands. It says this follows a pattern of China offering big deals with little regional consultation. Does the foreign ministry have any comment on this?

Wang Wenbin:

The remarks by the US side wantonly criticized China-Solomon Islands security cooperation in disregard of facts and driven by ulterior motives.

China and Solomon Islands have both talked extensively about our security cooperation. How can anyone allege that it lacks transparency?

I would like to stress again that China-Solomon Islands security cooperation is open, transparent and inclusive, and does not target any third party.

It proceeds in parallel with and complements Solomon Islands’ existing bilateral and multilateral security cooperation mechanisms.

China stands ready to work with relevant countries and leverage respective strengths to form international synergy and jointly promote the security and stability of Solomon Islands and the South Pacific region."

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on April 21, 2022

Unlike some "unexceptional countries" that have, and continue to, sign public international treaties and fail to deliver their legally biding promises.

**Shutree** · 22-04-2022, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

brodecast

A hobby of mine.

Originally Posted by OhOh

It appears some bigots, here on TD, who have not seen the confidential contracts and yet continue to state quite categorically, they know all the contracts details.!

Who has said that?

**OhOh** · 22-04-2022, 04:06 PM

^
Just from this page.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

when it leaves a trail of debt and destruction in its wake.

Originally Posted by pickel

It was in Sri Lanka

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

corrupt arseholes took the cake tins are out on their arses

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Solomons is handing over its fishing rights to the chinkies to pay off the "Belt and Owed" debt I wonder?

**harrybarracuda** · 22-04-2022, 10:01 PM

Belt and Owed, explained:

1. Chinkies "convince" (i.e. bribe) corrupt officials, mostly in poor countries, to borrow lots of money at loan shark rates for some shit they don't need but which benefits the parasitic chinkies.
2. The Chinkies then get the money back because part of the "convincing" involves awarding all the involved rights or contracts back to the parasitic chinkies.
3. The country that has borrowed the money discovers it can't afford to pay it back. The chinkies grab what they can then offer another loan.
4. Rinse and Repeat.

Parasitic chinky scum in action. It really works well where officials are easy to bribe.

**Switch** · 23-04-2022, 04:41 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Belt and Owed, explained:

1. Chinkies "convince" (i.e. bribe) corrupt officials, mostly in poor countries, to borrow lots of money at loan shark rates for some shit they don't need but which benefits the parasitic chinkies.
2. The Chinkies then get the money back because part of the "convincing" involves awarding all the involved rights or contracts back to the parasitic chinkies.
3. The country that has borrowed the money discovers it can't afford to pay it back. The chinkies grab what they can then offer another loan.
4. Rinse and Repeat.

Parasitic chinky scum in action. It really works well where officials are easy to bribe.

It needs to be added for OhOhs benefit. When the original loan cannot be repaid in cash, those crazy NDAs come into force and the Chinese can collect via ownership of defaulting projects.

The west has no use for such deals, which explains why corrupt governments like them so much. Sri Lankan leaders will be shamed, and disappear with their millions of Chinese bribery funding.

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