Thread: Greta Thunberg ... just in-case you missed her

Thread: Greta Thunberg ... just in-case you missed her

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Originally Posted by bowie

the closed mind - Loose Canon Idiot in our Midst

Originally Posted by bowie

"Not Me"

Originally Posted by bowie

I miss Manny

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^ yup, you always been "clueless"

Originally Posted by bowie

yup, you always been "clueless"

That's terrible grammar. Anything to add to the thread topic or just more triggered bitching?

Maybe take a keyboard break, calm yourself down.

​That's terrible grammar.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Anything to add to the thread topic

Yup, ahm in Prag's corner on this one.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

She's a tool of the Socialists.

Originally Posted by bowie

Yup, ahm in Prag's corner on this one.

Of course you are, you're a white male of a certain vintage.

In other stunning news to hand: the sun, it's really hot.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

the sun, it's really hot.

Not ta worry - a few more boat rides n' greta'll have it cooled down, eh?

Originally Posted by bowie

Not ta worry - a few more boat rides n' greta'll have it cooled down, eh?

Yeah that's not how it works.

You climate denialists really do undermine your own case with a lack of a grasp on basic tenants of science (and getting angry and yelling at / about young people trying to effect change ).

Originally Posted by OhOh

Other groups put forward their own "opinions".

And that's the problem, opinions ≠ facts.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Who have yet to state what they will give up to achieve their aims, who have "opinions" as yet untested.

These "younger people" their actions bent by, those who advise and direct them?

Those, who are they; parents, educators, financiers, media company owners, reviewers of latest manipulated klick count, buyers of media company databases .....

Ummm... what?

Are you saying that young people are incapable of forming their own opinions? Did that apply to you when you were young? How old were you when you managed to form your own opinions?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Are you saying that young people are incapable of forming their own opinions? Did that apply to you when you were young?

Of course, most children actually follow their parents words/orders. Then follow their teachers/peer group "advice/order/pressure, as they mature/get older.

"Eat your Greens, they're good for you", " go to sleep or you'll be tired in the morning", "do your homework/piano practice", "clean your teeth", "homework to be page", "revise, we'll have a test on Friday", "we're off to the cinema/dance/food store, you should come along, Susan will be there" ....

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

How old were you when you managed to form your own opinions?

Early teens. Able to take control of my future, at 16 years old.

After that, more experiences of life suggested routes that may have been disregarded earlier would be fun. Early 20's the decision to emigrate to another country with my girlfriend/wife. Early 30's return to accommodate my then wife's desires. A second marriage to the lady who produced my 4 children. Currently living the dream with wife No.3 in rural Thailand.

Still making decisions today, to satisfy my personal desires. It appears you were born with you ambitions and life plan from day 1.

What, has been your life, about yourself?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Of course, most children actually follow their parents words/orders. Then follow their teachers/peer group "advice/order/pressure, as they mature/get older.

"Eat your Greens, they're good for you", " go to sleep or you'll be tired in the morning", "do your homework/piano practice", "clean your teeth", "homework to be page", "revise, we'll have a test on Friday", "we're off to the cinema/dance/food store, you should come along, Susan will be there" ....

How does any of that preclude them being able to form their own opinions.

Anyways I'm guessing what you're driving at is a variation on the hackneyed and hoary 'children should be seen and not heard' which is just intrinsically outmoded and outdated to begin with and in the context of them wanting to make the planet a better place also exceedingly short-sighted. If you're going to dismiss the opinions of young people based on some arbitrary notion of a qualifying age then you're going to miss an awful lot.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Early teens. Able to take control of my future, at 16 years old.

After that, more experiences of life suggested routes that may have been disregarded earlier would be fun. Early 20's the decision to emigrate to another country with my girlfriend/wife. Early 30's return to accommodate my then wife's desires. A second marriage to the lady who produced my 4 children. Currently living the dream with wife No.3 in rural Thailand.

Still making decisions today, to satisfy my personal desires. It appears you were born with you ambitions and life plan from day 1.

What, has been your life, about yourself?

Err, thanks for the life story but I rather feel you've missed my point somewhat.

OhOh's waffling is exceptional. And funny. And usually irrelevant.

Originally Posted by OhOh

^Thank you for your partial reply.

Oh my comments are already on this thread, but if you want a recap:

Any stupid old fucker mocking this young lady for having the temerity to speak up should just STFU, because she's doing more than they are to try and highlight a major problem that affects us all.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Oh my comments are already on this thread

Should have been 2 up arrows, to the poster above you. Now edited.

My apologies.

A video illustrating the growth, shrinkage and flow of a number of Alaska's glaciers for the last 48 years. Images captured by satellites, cut together to form a continuous video.

Interesting and informative factual evidence that glaciers grow, shrink and flow. I would suggest that, in my opinion, there is no evidence of the glaciers drastically shrinking.

Christ, the idiocy proudly flaunted every day on this forum still boggles my mind after all these years.

wtf else is supposed to be raising sea levels?

phuketbound taking a dip?

Originally Posted by cyrille

wtf else is supposed to be raising sea levels?

phuketbound taking a dip?

Originally Posted by bowie

She's a tool of the Socialists.

Which socialists would these be?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

even your own linked vdo doesn't support your opinion to the contrary

The video I posted indicates some Alaska's glaciers growing, flowing, shrinking, growing ..... for the last 48 years, none of which have disappeared.

Unless you have a time stamp, from the video I posted, which illustrates your assertion, I remain unconvinced.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Christ, the idiocy proudly flaunted every day on this forum still boggles my mind after all these years.

Your attached video, post #744, indicates some areas were covered with glaciers, some time ago, and some melted, leaving obvious valleys and terminal moraines.

Unfortunately your years of existence is miniscule compared to cycles of earth cooling and warmings.

I suggest that to become hysterical over an alleged current change is somewhat misplaced. But your opinion is yours, just don't expect all to hold the same opinion and get wound up about naturally occurring events

The facts are that; glaciers have grown and shrunk for millennia. With or without humans having any impact.

Originally Posted by cyrille

wtf else is supposed to be raising sea levels?

Causing higher level in a warming phase and lower level in a cooling phase.

Your video post # 745 is an ad from a person/guide, who takes tourists to visit his local glacier. For money no doubt or maybe a donation. He's been around his local glacier since 2003, 16 years. A somewhat limited time period relative to the glaciers age, I suspect.

Judging by my posted video and your video at post # 744 glaciers are created by increased snow fall. Once they reach a certain depth of compressed snow/ice, by gravity, the base becomes fluid, due to weight above. They then start sliding, due to gravity. Eventually, some reach the sea and drop into it, others melt and form rivers, which again, some reach the sea. Some others never make it far due to the mountains blocking any further movement.

Causing higher sea levels in a warming phase and lower level in a cooling phase. A natural occurrence.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The video I posted indicates some Alaska's glaciers growing, flowing, shrinking, growing ..... for the last 48 years, none of which have disappeared.

So some glaciers in Alaska are in a constant state of flux, a point which precisely nobody has disputed, and haven't disappeared over 48 years and you think this somehow proves that all glaciers worldwide aren't disappearing...

I don't think you've thought this one all the way through.

Originally Posted by OhOh

I remain unconvinced

Yeah OK sure, why bother taking on board objective evidence and science when you can just cling to your own opinion.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Judging by my posted video and your video at post # 744

Your posted video is from the NASA Goddard Center.

Whatever you do don't research or look any further beyond your current misinterpretation of it to discover their research and findings into the issue of global warming and effects on glaciers in particular.

Because you'll be disappointed.