Thread: 2020 US Presidential Race

Originally Posted by tomcat

The American president is required to be both at the same time. It’s already a difficult task, and is made more difficult when the president clings too tightly to the mantle of bipartisanship.

Indeed but the same can be said for one that clings to tightly to the mantle of partisanship.

Way to early for me (a registered Republican ) to decide who to vote for but for sure know who not to vote for.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

OK Biden's in.

His taped opening shot was very effective IMO. Framing Trump as an extremist is the pathway to victory.

Originally Posted by tomcat

Joe Biden’s Proud Bipartisanship Is Not What the U.S. Needs

Will the Ukraine need him (and his son's business there) once his pal Poroshenko is out?

Originally Posted by Humbert

Framing Trump as an extremist is the pathway to victory.

While the term "framing" is understood, "accurately portraying" would be better because the Trumptards would jump on "framing" as in "setting up"...fake news!!! He was framed.

maybe i'm the only one who can remember back to 2008 and 2012 when a black candidate handily won with an electorate that was 70% white.

of course there will be racists who won't vote for anyone who isn't white...guess what, they're already voting for trump
of course there will be misogynists who won't vote for women...guess what, they're already voting for frump
of course there will be homophobes who won't vote for a homosexual...guess what, they're already voting for trump


yes, dems need to nominate a candidate that can win.....but a straight, white male is not the only candidate that can win. in fact, nominating a straight, white male is likely going to keep some voters at home....especially women of color.

Originally Posted by Humbert

His taped opening shot was very effective IMO. Framing Trump as an extremist is the pathway to victory.

i thought it was pretty good.

i like biden and would definitely support him if he gets the nomination.

Rolling Stone pointed out today Biden is going to lose a lot of votes over his anti marijuana policy.

Originally Posted by aging one

Biden is going to lose a lot of votes over his anti marijuana policy

...that policy will change in a heartbeat if Biden thinks it will win votes...

Originally Posted by raycarey

i thought it was pretty good.

i like biden and would definitely support him if he gets the nomination.

But...but... He's a straight white male. You need a black lesbian.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...that policy will change in a heartbeat if Biden thinks it will win votes...

Lets hope so

Originally Posted by Cujo

But...but... He's a straight white male. You need a black lesbian.

but...but....either by intent or stupidity, you've mischaracterized my posts.

let me lay it out for you as plainly as i can....i wouldn't vote for biden in the primary...but if he somehow wins the nomination, he would have my full support in the general.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...that policy will change in a heartbeat if Biden thinks it will win votes...

A testament to the character of the man..

Originally Posted by aging one

Rolling Stone pointed out today Biden is going to lose a lot of votes over his anti marijuana policy.

Lose them to who I wonder? In the primaries I suppose so but Trump is certainly not a pro weed guy. Biden is a lunch bucket Democrat, he will lose some progressive votes but gain a lot of blue collar ones.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Biden is a lunch bucket Democrat, he will lose some progressive votes but gain a lot of blue collar ones.

good point.
and further illustrates why his VP pick is so important should he get the nomination.....and i think we'll find that many candidates will be open to being VP because biden will almost certainly state beforehand that he'll be a one termer.

Originally Posted by Humbert

but Trump is certainly not a pro weed guy.

he has no core ideological beliefs beyond knee-jerk economic protectionism.....he'd be pro-weed in a heartbeat if the political winds of his base blew that way.

Originally Posted by raycarey

and further illustrates why his VP pick is so important should he get the nomination.....and i think we'll find that many candidates will be open to being VP because biden will almost certainly state beforehand that he'll be a one termer.

This is the strategy for both Sanders and Biden: Spearhead an agressive campaign that does not shy away from attacking Trump, pick a strong VP as a running mate who will be heir apparent for 2024.

Just when you thought Ray and David could never agree on anything ...

Originally Posted by raycarey

i'd vote for kamala harris.

she's smart, she's tough, she's experienced, she's likable, ....

Yep ... +1

Originally Posted by raycarey

(referring to 'ole Joe) why his VP pick is so important should he get the nomination

Yep ... +1

Let me check for Blue Moons

^ what states does bernie win that biden doesn't?

Originally Posted by raycarey

what states does bernie win that biden doesn't?

Did you watch the video? Bernie is far more popular in Wisconsin then Biden is.

Biden and AOC I reckon. As long as he can keep his hands off her shoulders and avoid sniffing her hair.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

AOC I reckon.

You're having a laugh, yeah? She's far too young, far too new, and far to socialist for the Dem's to endorse her.
Beto and Mayor Pete blow her out of the water.
More likely Harris.

Originally Posted by happynz

Anyway, she's not running for president, is she?

no...

So Harry was having a laugh.