The Russian spy thread. It seems the Russians are serious about this.

[Cujo]

And yet regardless of 'opinion' high level russian diplomats have been taking an extraordinary interest in her.
What are we to make of this?

[OhOh]

It seems likely that Russian officials visiting Butina in prison are looking to protect more than just the rights of a Russian citizen. They are looking to protect their ongoing intelligence operations. To that larger end, they likely have several goals in mind:

Standard ameristani fake news. Innuendo but not facts. What's new?

Puts paid to ohhos theory.

Which theory might that be? Or just another blanket accusation of one of TD's most honoured poster. Shame on you.

[OhOh]

What are we to make of this?

Make of what, your infantile non accusation?

[OhOh]

b) The extreme longshot she will confess all off the back of no solid evidence against her.

Standard ameristani legal system. Nobody goes to trial, defence lawyer offer a deal as the alternative is as we see with the goldilocks fiasco, years of labour, billions of expenses and not a single drop of evidence fit to put before 12 true men and women aka THE LEGAL PROCESS.

What a farce ameristan has become.

[harrybarracuda]

Innuendo but not facts. What's new?

That pretty well sums up you all post, you hypocritical wanker.

[foobar]

And yet regardless of 'opinion' high level russian diplomats have been taking an extraordinary interest in her.
What are we to make of this?

Given the very high profile international media coverage and the diplomatic implications of the allegations I would expect nothing less from the Russian officials. Any other country would behave in exactly the same manner and it would say precisley nothing about the guilt\innocence of the accused.

However much can be made of the fact that somehow we are being expected to conclude she is guilty from the very normal behaviour of the Russian diplomats .....as opposed to providing factual and direct evidence of her crimes that might stand up in a court of law.

[foobar]

That pretty well sums up you all post, you hypocritical wanker.

You really need to learn how to use your words better and who knows one day if you work really hard you might even formulate a point or arguement not regurgitated a'la copy and paste from establishment propaganda sources.

[Cujo]

Who are you again?

[harrybarracuda]

copy and paste from establishment propaganda sources.

.... he copied and pasted from his whackjob website.

[OhOh]

That pretty well sums up you all post, you hypocritical wanker.

I illustrate the crime, you're a conspirator to it.

Who are you again?

A poster who adds to the discussion, You might try that technique.

[harrybarracuda]

A poster who adds to the discussion, You might try that technique.

Translation: Another multinic wanker.

[OhOh]

^who cares, you?

[harrybarracuda]

^who cares, you?

Not at all, he's never going to match your talent for believing whackjob bullshit.

[misskit]

Does this thread have to be about Butina or any old Russian spy? What’s Butina’s passport number, anyway?

‘Yeah it's the GRU HQ — so what?’ Funny passport numbers link a whole web of suspected Russian intelligence operatives

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2018/09...gru-hq-so-what

[OhOh]

^ Meduza and now another Russian web site, "On September 22, Fontanka published the results of its study".

Come on MZ, how can you now expect us to accept them, Russians, to be "truthful"? All the world knows it's "more than likely" to be communist propaganda.

[misskit]

Investigative reporters find that 305 Russian GRU officers outed themselves in car-registration paperwork

The investigative news websites The Insider and Bellingcat reported on Thursday that there are 305 cars registered at the Moscow address of a Russian military intelligence division blamed by Western governments for launching a series of hacker attacks over the past several years. The address, 20 Komsomolsky Prospekt, belongs to Military Unit Number 26165, and one of the cars is registered to Alexey Morinets, whom Western intelligence agencies say is one of the GRU officers responsible for carrying out successful and attempted hacker attacks against targets in the West.

According to The Insider and Bellingcat, all 305 people who registered their vehicles at 20 Komsomolsky Prospekt provided their passport information and mobile phone numbers, and some even listed the military unit as their place of work.


“In essence, this means that any person with access to the State Road Traffic Safety Authority’s database (and this is one of the most accessible databases in Russia) can get the names, passport information, and mobile phone numbers of several hundred GRU staff — and not just ordinary employees, but staff in the same military unit that’s been accused of the most scandalous hacker attacks in recent history,” said The Insider.



https://meduza.io/en/news/2018/10/04...tion-paperwork

[misskit]

Ran across this AP article about how men get out of small towns by joining the military.

Military intelligence offers career path in today’s Russia

By NATALIYA VASILYEVA




https://apnews.com/bb9db7f3f71d43868c4a6592bc7ec3f2

[OhOh]

men get out of small towns by joining the military

Women too, as in many exceptional western countries.

[misskit]

Maria Butina, accused Russian agent, reaches plea deal with prosecutors that includes cooperation

Maria Butina, a 30-year-old Russian gun rights activist who stands accused developing a covert influence operation in the United States, has agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy and cooperate with federal, state and local authorities in any ongoing investigations.


She admits, as part of the deal, according to a copy obtained by ABC News that is expected to be filed to the court, that she and an unnamed “U.S. Person 1,” which sources have identified as longtime Republican operative Paul Erickson, with whom she had a multiyear romantic relationship, “agreed and conspired, with a Russian government official (“Russian Official”) and at least one other person, for Butina to act in the United States under the direction of Russian Official without prior notification to the Attorney General.”



Based on the description, the “Russian Official” appears to be Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Russian Central Bank and a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Under his direction, the agreement said, she “sought to establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over U.S. politics.”



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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mari...ry?id=59719083

[Dragonfly]

so she was a red sparrow ?

[TuskegeeBen]

And yet regardless of 'opinion' high level russian diplomats have been taking an extraordinary interest in her. What are we to make of this?

What are we to make of this?

[OhOh]

Maria Butina, accused Russian agent, reaches plea deal with prosecutors that includes cooperation

Standard SOP, no hope of a trial date, held in an isolation cell for months, shit ameristani legal system.

[harrybarracuda]

Standard SOP, no hope of a trial date, held in an isolation cell for months, shit ameristani legal system.

Yes, imagine being arrested for no reason and locked up away from your family for months without trial.

You know, like what's happening in China.

[TuskegeeBen]

Standard SOP, no hope of a trial date, held in an isolation cell for months, shit ameristani legal system.

Sigh! As a "Constitutionist" U.S. citizen, I must (with shame) wholeheartedly agree ^.

[TuskegeeBen]

Yes, imagine being arrested for no reason and locked up away from your family for months without trial.

You know, like what's happening in China.

With a subtle reiteration reply,...to the above...Harry ,...at least the "Chinkies" are not hypocrites.