Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

I'm an active member of a union and clock in and out.
Love the craic and security over being self employed and the flexibility of living on your nerves.
The UK is a great place to earn money,that's why everyone wants to relocate here.

Even moreso after Brexit

Indeed, ditch digging for DOCWRA has never been so profitable.

and let's have another round of circus clowns

Brexit: PM under fire over new Brexit plan
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48360456

Theresa May will make the case for her new Brexit plan in Parliament later, amid signs that Conservative opposition to her leadership is hardening.

The prime minister will give a statement to MPs on her changes to the Withdrawal Agreement Bill - including her promise to give MPs a vote on holding another referendum.

But Labour MPs said too little had changed for them to come on board.

And one ex-Tory minister questioned whether June's vote would even happen.

MPs have rejected the withdrawal agreement negotiated with the EU three times, and attempts to find a formal compromise with Labour have failed.

On Tuesday, the prime minister asked MPs to take "one last chance" to deliver a negotiated exit - or risk Brexit not happening at all.

But Mrs May's new plan had "failed to turn sceptics into endorsers", said BBC political correspondent Chris Mason.

Conservative MP Boris Johnson - who wants to succeed Mrs May as prime minister - said on Twitter: "We are being asked to vote for a customs union and a second referendum. The Bill is directly against our manifesto - and I will not vote for it.

there was a documentary on inside Brexit last night on German/French TV, it was brutal, a lot of meeting footage with Barnier and the Brexit coordinator, that creepy Belgium guy, with "secret" discussions being filmed etc...

I am starting to feel for the poor British, from day 1, in a brutal meeting with the Brexit committee, the Germans made it clear that it had to hurt, and nothing will be done until the Brits come up with a plan. The Germans were determined to penalize the Brits so they couldn't leave at the end. It's only when things were stalled in July 2017 that Barnier came to Maybot rescue and worked on a plan for her to leave, against the wishes of the Germans.

The documentary was quite late and long, couldn't finish it, but it was very raw with no cuts in discussions, personal remarks from Barnier being recorded without him knowing really who is filming. Got to see how they work inside, and I have to admit, those lazy fookers are really doing nothing useful except printing papers and creating political dramas to make their life useful. The Brits are indeed better off living that crazy place where positive results are not necessary

Barnier was superb though, unlike the lazy Belgium, Guy Vonshitsomething, with his wine producing property financed by his inflated EU salary

they are all obsessed with Twitter, opinion pieces in the Guardian, and how they are perceived by their peers

why we all paying for those fookers is beyond me. In that group of lazy executives, a lot of Brits too on that gravy train

It's become a painful ritual of a tortuous process: the prime minister unveils a vision for Brexit, and MPs queue up to demolish it in the House of Commons. On Wednesday it looks like it is going to happen again.

If Theresa May's speech yesterday sought to attract switchers - and turn sceptics into endorsers - it failed.

Worse than that for Downing Street, some Conservatives who backed the plan when it was last voted on, now say they'll reject it.

Among many Conservative MPs, there is a bleak, end of days mood. Some wonder if it's even worthwhile putting the bill to a vote.

Others ponder getting rid of the prime minister even sooner than she's promised. But those around Theresa May insist they are not willing to give up at least yet - they are determined her plan will be put to MPs in around a fortnight's time.

The problem is Doris actually believes her deal is Brexit and she refuses to listen. If the next Tory leader isn't someone who advocates actually leaving and not with some Brexit in name only deal the Tories are finished. Boris is there only hope but the Tories will do all they can to prevent him getting to the final 2 as they know if he does the Tory membership will elect him with a landslide. Tories will do well if they end up with 10% of the vote tomorrow in the Euro elections, single figures a distinct possibility.

The trouble with a hard Brexit ..there is not a single Brexiteer anywhere in UK politics that has any idea or any firm plan on how to implement.

Only retards say "...just leave" ...its akin to saying "...just fly to the moon".

For those interested, a 'live' debate of Nigel Farage and Vince Cable about to begin via YouTube (hosted by the Daily Telegraph). As of now (1622 hours), not yet started, but imminent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=wxlEfDuus_U

Originally Posted by foobar

The trouble with a hard Brexit ..there is not a single Brexiteer anywhere in UK politics that has any idea or any firm plan on how to implement.

Only retards say "...just leave" ...its akin to saying "...just fly to the moon".

Hard Brexit is a term coined by remoaners after they lost the referendum. It's been explained to you numerous times even in baby speak what would happen and how to implement it. If no trade deal agreed before we leave then we trade on WTO terms with the EU till whenever one is agreed. Who you voting for FuFu?

Originally Posted by PAG

For those interested, a 'live' debate of Nigel Farage and Vince Cable

I have been out of the UK for a few years but what a pratt Cable across as. A sock-puppet put in place as head of a party to absorb the votes of the disenchanted, the pseudo intellectuals and the confused. How can anyone take him seriously?

Originally Posted by Warwick

How can anyone take him seriously?

The electorate are easily dupped.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Hard Brexit is a term coined by remoaners after they lost the referendum. It's been explained to you numerous times even in baby speak what would happen and how to implement it. If no trade deal agreed before we leave then we trade on WTO terms with the EU till whenever one is agreed. Who you voting for FuFu?

well Doris doesn't listen to anyone like a good Torry, and likewise you don't seem to get it either

Hard Brexit is technically not feasible, and I think everyone in the UK is starting to realize, even the hardcore Brexit loons

WTO doesn't cover everything and abandoning the EU, because basically it will be abandonment, not an exit, is simply not feasible technically without a vote of your parliament or a say from the Queen.

It will never happen, because renegading the EU as hard Brexit is simply disrupting significantly global commerce and would technically open the doors for legal liabilities to the British government (basically pay for the damages they have done to corporations)

unless you are prepared to go full NK, Brexit as you dream is not going to happen, ever.

You need to wake the fook up, dude, and stop being a fucking Brexit fairy

Originally Posted by Norton

The electorate are easily dupped.

voters are stupid, that's why we have voting rules

the consensus now seems to go with a revoke of Article 50,

Farage wouldn't have gone for the EU election if he didn't think he could make a killing financially for the next 5 years

Brexit, Game OVER !!! Thanks for playing

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the consensus now seems to go with a revoke of Article 50,

That would piss off most more than they already are.

The only reason Brexit has been so hard to deliver is that the people charged with delivering it dont actually want it. Hence Doris deal drawn up by her and her remain civil service behind the backs of her own Brexit secretary which keeps us tied as closely to the EU as possible just changing names and terms of stuff. Its game on again as the Tories are going to about 10% of the vote tomorrow if lucky and Doris will have to go then there will be calls for a GE as the new PM will have no mandate. Then we have the Brexit party entering Westminster.

Originally Posted by Norton

That would piss off most more than they already are.

Probably 35% maybe more of people who can be bothered to vote will be voting for the Brexit party tomorrow a party only formed a couple of months ago. Whatever the % is that's guaranteed votes for a hard Brexit.

Doris is just the tip of the iceberg. There was no plan for a Brexit. It's easy to cast a vote, harder to implement it. Maybot mission was bound to fail. It would have been clear to anyone after 3 months that it was a complete pipedream and not achievable.

the problem is that the old witch for political reasons and to shine as a PM, and to remain one, pursued an impossible mission, like King Arthur with the Holly Grail.

Brexit is the Holly Grail and nobody knows how to find it, because it's simply buried too deep to be attainable

You played, you tried, Maybot got her 2 years of political fame, the mission failed, and the Germans have won again

GE should reboot all that and forget the whole fooking episode

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Probably 35% maybe more of people who can be bothered to vote will be voting for the Brexit party tomorrow a party only formed a couple of months ago. Whatever the % is that's guaranteed votes for a hard Brexit.

the population could vote at 80% for a hard brexit, doesn't mean it's achievable or feasible

they could vote at 90% for stopping paying taxes, doesn't mean it will happen

Your politicians can't simply deliver something that is completely out of their reach

like I said, either gets the Queen involved, or go NK and Iran style for a true hard Brexit

nothing else will work, and certainly no Nigel is going to change that

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Probably 35% maybe more of people who can be bothered to vote will be voting for the Brexit party tomorrow a party only formed a couple of months ago. Whatever the % is that's guaranteed votes for a hard Brexit.

Sounds like you are confused again between MP and MEP.

MEP have zero power over Brexit.

A related piece.

British Steel insolvency endangers 5,000 jobs
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48365241

Doris is the problem, the EU offered a free trade deal at the start of negotiations which she rejected. Canada + or Norway + or whatever they called it at the time forget which. That would probably have got through parliament back then but now she has dug in so deep with her clusterfuk deal and alienated everyone from all sides of the argument she needs to go, she needed to go last year.

Originally Posted by foobar

Sounds like you are confused again between MP and MEP.

MEP have zero power over Brexit.

You really are a fucking idiot FuFu. People voting for the Brexit party tomorrow are people who would be voting for a hard Brexit in future referendum. Is that easy enough for you to understand? Who you voting for tomorrow FuFu?

^ Buffy all triggered cos I spoilt his Brexit Party fantasy with annoying reality based facts...

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Probably 35% maybe more of people who can be bothered to vote will be voting for the Brexit party tomorrow a party only formed a couple of months ago. Whatever the % is that's guaranteed votes for a hard Brexit.

Even if its a 100% turnout and The Retard Party get 100% of the vote it will effect Brexit by exactly 0%.