Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

^^ What's with the question mark?

Originally Posted by Troy

Yep! Obviously time to revoke A50

too logical and sensible, not going to happen, we are dealing with the fuzzy Brits here

Originally Posted by Neverna

It's time to exit with no deal.

even if A50 is revoked, and you stay, the Brexit division is deeply installed and it won't go away for the next 100 years

if you do go, same same

The only way out is to have the Queen makes the decision, nobody else, and unite the country behind her

^ There are no benefits to be gained by leaving the EU. The UK needs freedom of trade and freedom of movement. The UK needs the EU. It's time the UK learnt more about the EU and its advantages rather than whining on the sideline all the time.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Fuck em. WTO it is. And I'm no unionist. I couldn't care less if NI rejoined the republic.

Wish I could agree, because about the best result I can think of for UK right now and under current conditions is A50 revocation; and had our glorious leader not fallen to her knees and committed her gov to even more concessions for this extension it's quite likely that would have happened.

The Tories will pay for their handling of Brexit and it won't come cheap, yet they would still score an undeserved victory in the next election since the people are not quite mad or angry enough to elect a Marxist PM.

Originally Posted by jabir

the best result I can think of for UK right now and under current conditions is A50 revocation

Well you've managed over a month without a u-turn until now. Probably a personal best.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Barnier has said so and unlike the English belly crawling egregious slime balls, he is a man of his word.

You English are perilously near to becoming white coons, Tax.

In a moment of distraction Barnier broke cover and referred to 'May's deal' as "the Treaty," so perhaps he is, or was for that moment a man of his word.

Get real, this was written by the Germans, rubber stamped by their officials and handed to May with an invite to some choice position in the EU, or possibly even the UN!

Total victory to the EU, abject capitulation by the goodies.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Long term? People live day to day you fool. Real life is right now. Long term is for when it has no immediate effect.

Rather short sighted for such an esteemed persona, eh?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Tax, your event horizon is such that you personally will never see a benefit from this insanity of Brexit, in fact I don't think Britain will ever recover.

Could be right, but nothing has been finalised and soon we will have another glorious leader. Not that I give too much hope to this silver lining, but so long as Parliament hold firm to reject May's surrender Treaty and stave off end of life as we know it, no deal kicks in as an option for the next gov to renegotiate.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

It seems likely that Irish reunification is an unspoken EU objective. Why wouldn't it be with Ireland but not the UK in the EU?

While the EU view reunification as a heap of positives for it and equal negatives for the UK, HMgov acknowledges under Good Friday the desire for a united Ireland and also commits it to unification by peaceful means and consent of a majority. Should the SecState for NI believe that a majority of northerners is likely to vote to leave the UK and reunify the island he is obliged to offer a referendum (after at least 7 years from the last referendum).

Originally Posted by DrB0b

A twelve year old treaty that has no effect on the UK?

What the fuck are you on about, you pointy-headed retard.

Poor doc, can never resist a stab.


The LT was born after the EU's failed attempt to pass the EU Constitution; having been rejected by France and the Netherlands, the EU stepped in to 'democratically' cancel scheduled votes in UK, Ireland, Denmark, Portugal and a couple other member states, then refashioned it into the Lisbon Treaty keeping key parts of the failed Constitution while the gods of the day dropped or watered down more controversial aspects.

Only a fool or someone making up fictional facts would even suggest, never mind stoutly claim that the LT, a reconstituted Constitution, has no effect on the UK or ftm any other member state!

Well, it seems from the recent leaked cabinet record of recent meetings, the Civil Service has now been told to stand down from its hard Brexit preparation planning.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

It's all so pointless as the EU say no renegotiation of the withdrawal agreement and it will never pass parliament as it stands so why the extension. All it is achieves is Doris bringing further humiliation on the UK and all because she has lied and lied and lied.

No question that the EU got one over us big time.

But still can't see Ref2 as I don't believe EU leaders are dumb enough to risk a landslide confirming Brexit, which narrows down the options to revocation and the surrender Treaty. The surrender Treaty must be seen as the worst possible outcome by all Brits with the exception of May and perhaps a handful of others, so I expect eventual revocation.

Originally Posted by Troy

So they didn't manage to kick the can very far. Is that the final extension?

Will May finally resign and let someone competent take over? October isn't really long enough to have a people's vote or even a GE and get policies through.

May is still on Plan A ...

Continuous extensions until revoke or surrender Treaty.

Originally Posted by Neverna

So that's 17.4 million minus 1.

Awesome.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Having said that last month, surely she has to resign.

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Says much of where we are at that Parliament has not tabled motions of censure for consistently lying to them.

Originally Posted by Troy

The referendum vote was respected. It was a mandate of both major parties to leave. The Maybot has spent over two years trying to formulate a plan to leave. However, there is still no agreed way forward on how to leave the EU in a reasonable way.

The traitors are not the ones trying to get out of the mess the referendum got the UK into.

Real slow even by your standards that you haven't figured out a) we're not leaving, but that's understandable since you also have trouble with b) May has spent over two years formulating plans to keep us from leaving.

Originally Posted by Neverna

It's time to exit with no deal.

Our most formidable weapon, scrapped by Parliament.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

^ Sounds like something Hitler might have said about the Jews, you sick puppy.


Right, so because there are lots of conflicting opinions, it's best to give up and lap up another 45 years of divisive EU shite?

No question of 45 years, give it 5-10 before the Socialist project goes tits up.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

even if A50 is revoked, and you stay, the Brexit division is deeply installed and it won't go away for the next 100 years

if you do go, same same

The only way out is to have the Queen makes the decision, nobody else, and unite the country behind her

You do realise the Union could never be 'federalised' into the Republic of Europe, until all of its monarchies are deposed?

Tbf I don't suppose Belgians would blink over that.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Well you've managed over a month without a u-turn until now. Probably a personal best.

Doesn't mean I want it, dolt, if you jump in a pool you will get wet whether you want to or not. Do grow up!

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Those comments suggest that you have zero ability to appreciate anyone's situation other than your own.

I'm quite capable of seeing why being in the EU is better for millions of people and leaving is better for millions of people. Brits who do most of their business with the US or China for example may hope for a swift trade agreement that the EU has failed to ever come up with. Brits living in Australia of which there are more than in the entire EU might hope for freedom of movement with Australia. There are hundreds of other examples if only you take the time to open your eyes and gain some empathy.

You obviously have problems drawing conclusions from available facts. That ability does not automatically imply what's best on a personal level.

One hopes you aren't in management, even at a junior level, with your obvious lack of ability.

While your human empathy skills are legendary, eh smeggly?

ok this is what happened behind closed doors in the negotiation and why Macron conceded to the extension

In essence, Merckel doesn't want to see the UK leaves, and will do anything to delay their exit. Her influence in the EU is still strong. In the late night session, Macron was isolated with Belgium and Spain against everyone else. Merkel wanted to go with more than 1 year, possibly 2 years flexible extension. Macron fiercely opposed to it, and the new date was set for 6 months instead.