Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Sounds like James Delingpole made a complete dick of himself trying to defend no-deal Brexit.

Philip Hammond(Chancellor of the Exchequer/Tory Gov) has warned of significant disruption to the UK economy if Britain leaves the EU without a deal in March.

Pressure has mounted on Theresa May to rule out a no-deal Brexit in recent days, with the Airbus chief executive, Tom Enders, saying on Thursday morning: “Please don’t listen to the Brexiteers’ madness, which asserts that ‘because we have huge plants here we will not move and we will always be here’. They are wrong.”

His comments were praised by the business minister Richard Harrington at a German Industry UK gathering in London later that day. He said he would be happy to be sacked for speaking out. “I really don’t believe in this idea,” he said of a no-deal Brexit. “I am very happy to be public about it and very happy if the prime minister decides I am not the right person to do the business industry job.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business...-brexit-result

Hammond warns industry. Get used to a no deal Brexit.

It is the Guardian, but still requires you to read all of it, in order to put his comments into context.

^The point being even Hammond admits a hard Brexit will cause significant disruption to the UK economy.

The fact he's telling business leaders they will just have to "get used to" a significant disruption to the UK economy, just shows the lack of workable solutions and what an utter joke this Tory government have become.

Originally Posted by lom

A time limited backstop shouldn't be any problem if the default (in case of no other agreement during the time limit) is a hard border.

EU rules require a hard border between EU and non-EU, while UK, EU and Ireland are unanimous that under no circumstances will there be a hard border, period!

Meanwhile, Barnier says whatever happens the EU will find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls within the next few weeks, ie before the end of March, "without putting in place a hard border!"

The DT's Brussels correspondent yesterday referred Barnier's statement to the EC spokesman, and asked if all of this is possible, why does the EU still demand a backstop. The response was, "You can write whatever you like, I'm here to express the position of the Commission; however, I will read you with interest."

Well, to those that actually know what's going on, like Troy, the Belgian, asylumseeker and squirrel, why does the EU insist on a backstop if even Barnier says they will find a different way to ensure regulatory alignment?

[QUOTE=Neverna] Yeah, you can trust the polls as much as you could trust them two years ago.

Originally Posted by fubar

Sounds like you're saying the referendum poll result was untrustworthy?

Or is it only the polls that don't give the results you want that you deem untrustworthy?

Hey fubar, time limit ten minutes, see if you can spot the glaring difference:

polls

referendum poll result

Originally Posted by foobar

Philip Hammond(Chancellor of the Exchequer/Tory Gov) has warned of significant disruption to the UK economy if Britain leaves the EU without a deal in March.

Pressure has mounted on Theresa May to rule out a no-deal Brexit in recent days, with the Airbus chief executive, Tom Enders, saying on Thursday morning: “Please don’t listen to the Brexiteers’ madness, which asserts that ‘because we have huge plants here we will not move and we will always be here’. They are wrong.”

His comments were praised by the business minister Richard Harrington at a German Industry UK gathering in London later that day. He said he would be happy to be sacked for speaking out. “I really don’t believe in this idea,” he said of a no-deal Brexit. “I am very happy to be public about it and very happy if the prime minister decides I am not the right person to do the business industry job.”

Don't get your knickers in a twist just yet; go have a look see if Airbus is receiving large, very large or fcukin enormous EU subsidies, then 'speculate' why Airbus might get cranky at the possibility of having to compete with the rest of the world on fairer terms.

Originally Posted by jabir

Hey fubar, time limit ten minutes, see if you can spot the glaring difference:

polls

referendum poll result

It only took 5 secs. Answer: They are all polls, so no difference.

You even used the word poll in both, but you're too dim to understand the 2016 Referendum Vote was in fact just another poll.

Originally Posted by jabir

EU rules require a hard border between EU and non-EU, while UK, EU and Ireland are unanimous that under no circumstances will there be a hard border, period!

Meanwhile, Barnier says whatever happens the EU will find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls within the next few weeks, ie before the end of March, "without putting in place a hard border!"

The DT's Brussels correspondent yesterday referred Barnier's statement to the EC spokesman, and asked if all of this is possible, why does the EU still demand a backstop. The response was, "You can write whatever you like, I'm here to express the position of the Commission; however, I will read you with interest."

Well, to those that actually know what's going on, like Troy, the Belgian, asylumseeker and squirrel, why does the EU insist on a backstop if even Barnier says they will find a different way to ensure regulatory alignment?

Link to Barnier statement please.

Originally Posted by Troy

Link to Barnier statement please.

https://politicaluk.co.uk/2019/01/eu...caremongering/

No doubt you will find a word or comma out of place that you can use to ignore the subtsance, or simply ignore it. Don't know why I bother, because if you don't fubar will.

I read the same in another link, conservative home or similar. They are working on it, the UK are also working on it. If a solution is agreed then all is okay and no hard border is required. However, a solution has to be found, it can't simply be ignored after a certain period of time. The problem doesn't just vanish because a couple of years go by and a time limit will mean no-one will bother finding a solution.

Pretty simple really.

Managed no-deal = you're talking outta your arse

hard border, soft border, who cares

as long as you don't have any say in any EU business, it's all good

Originally Posted by Troy

Managed no-deal = lala land

ftfy

In some ways I have to admit that my years here among the ignorant savage have actually prepared me for the phenomenon of understanding Brexit morons whose innate imbecility, puerile attitudes and cognitive dissonance all echo, uncannily, the consciousness, or lack of it, of the average Isaan dolt.

When I search for some degree of intelligence or reasoning in the countenance of the typical Brexshitter that might shed light on why it was they should wish to chop off their leg in order to run faster, I realise in a blinding flash of piercing insight that I might as well have asked a tree in Nakhon Nowhere why Somchai pissed on it.

Brexiteers are in truth a subset of humanity with whom the average Isaan twat may well forge an interesting relationship that transcends normal communication and ensures the interrogative "why" is quite redundant.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

In some ways I have to admit that my years here among the ignorant savage have actually prepared me for the phenomenon of understanding Brexit morons whose innate imbecility, puerile attitudes and cognitive dissonance all echo, uncannily, the consciousness, or lack of it, of the average Isaan dolt.

When I search for some degree of intelligence or reasoning in the countenance of the typical Brexshitter that might shed light on why it was they should wish to chop off their leg in order to run faster, I realise in a blinding flash of piercing insight that I might as well have asked a tree in Nakhon Nowhere why Somchai pissed on it.

Brexiteers are in truth a subset of humanity with whom the average Isaan twat may well forge an interesting relationship that transcends normal communication and ensures the interrogative "why" is quite redundant.

Awwww bless, you still don't get it.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

In some ways I have to admit that my years here among the ignorant savage have actually prepared me for the phenomenon of understanding Brexit morons whose innate imbecility, puerile attitudes and cognitive dissonance all echo, uncannily, the consciousness, or lack of it, of the average Isaan dolt.

When I search for some degree of intelligence or reasoning in the countenance of the typical Brexshitter that might shed light on why it was they should wish to chop off their leg in order to run faster, I realise in a blinding flash of piercing insight that I might as well have asked a tree in Nakhon Nowhere why Somchai pissed on it.

Brexiteers are in truth a subset of humanity with whom the average Isaan twat may well forge an interesting relationship that transcends normal communication and ensures the interrogative "why" is quite redundant.

I agree. If the French don’t like a particular law, they ignore it, or set fire to something, in order to register their disapproval. The average Somchai is not permitted to do that.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

There will be no hard border, it's just an EU negotiating ploy and it's getting boring - .

Yep, the whole thing is getting (got over a year ago) boring but i have to admire all you who can keep posting the same stuff on here for years, its like the longest tennis tie-break ever

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PG1G4

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

In some ways I have to admit that my years here among the ignorant savage have actually prepared me for the phenomenon of understanding Brexit morons whose innate imbecility, puerile attitudes and cognitive dissonance all echo, uncannily, the consciousness, or lack of it, of the average Isaan dolt.

When I search for some degree of intelligence or reasoning in the countenance of the typical Brexshitter that might shed light on why it was they should wish to chop off their leg in order to run faster, I realise in a blinding flash of piercing insight that I might as well have asked a tree in Nakhon Nowhere why Somchai pissed on it.

Brexiteers are in truth a subset of humanity with whom the average Isaan twat may well forge an interesting relationship that transcends normal communication and ensures the interrogative "why" is quite redundant.

Gent, why, seriously do you bother - i cannot imagine what your staff (if you had any) had to put up with working for you. You spout that same rehashed bolloix every post but think that adding descriptive words longer than seven letters leaves people impressed, when actually and i don't really like using this word but for you i'll make an exception because it is apt - you are a full on Cvnt.

Regarding Barnier's comment a few posts back.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 17.15 GMT First published on Wed 23 Jan 2019 11.01 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...irish-backstop

On Wednesday, Barnier and EU officials also back-pedalled on their claims over the last 24 hours that a no deal Brexit would “obviously” lead to the imposition of a hard border on the island of Ireland.

“We will have to find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls without putting back in place a border”, Barnier said, in a sign of the sensitivity of the issue.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PG1G4

did you get yours ?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Regarding Barnier's comment a few posts back.

Wed 23 Jan 2019 17.15 GMT First published on Wed 23 Jan 2019 11.01 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...irish-backstop

On Wednesday, Barnier and EU officials also back-pedalled on their claims over the last 24 hours that a no deal Brexit would “obviously” lead to the imposition of a hard border on the island of Ireland.

“We will have to find an operational way of carrying out checks and controls without putting back in place a border”, Barnier said, in a sign of the sensitivity of the issue.

Nev you know it was alway the case that a compromise would have to be reached. The fukwits we employ in the UK parlaiment and their mishandling of the process and the democratic result is at best laughable at worst not far off treasonous, they should have just read negotiating for idiots to realise that your opening gamit is no deal and certain sacrosanct terms like hard boarder - instead we employed idiots who crawled to the negotiating table apologising with their tail between their legs - now i know we live in a civilised society these days but imagine going back to Henry VIII with that story stupid I know but this is where we find ourselves. I have spent years negotiating in one form or another and a 4 YO child does a better job of getting their way than our professed leaders.

IF we take Do Deal off the table as that wanker Corbyn and the fukin SNP loons + other muppet MPs insist we may as well just hand the parliament over to the EU.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Gent, why, seriously do you bother - i cannot imagine what your staff (if you had any) had to put up with working for you. You spout that same rehashed bolloix every post but think that adding descriptive words longer than seven letters leaves people impressed, when actually and i don't really like using this word but for you i'll make an exception because it is apt - you are a full on Cvnt.

Hit a nerve, didn't he?