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    we are going to win !!!

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    Well that was a surprise...both of the Maybot's Customs plans being rejected out of hand by the EU. Not that the UK hadn't been told a million times already that they can't cherry pick.

    Let's hope that she has the guts to sack Gove and send Boris on a special trade mission to the planet Zogg. Rees Mogg could do with a good clip round the ear as well.

    The maybot needs to get back on course for a Beano Brexit with a smoke and mirrors Customs deal that keeps things just as they are...for another decade or two.

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    what a complete waste of time,

    Hard Brexit is the only exit

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    Well, Butters, two years later it seems the limp-dicked Tory wankers were bluffing all the time and have spunked their load in a jet of wank spume all over the geriatric Maybot.

    Britain has left the top table of EU politics and the economic bridge of a union of 500 millions consumers for a backwater of mediocrity occasionally lapped by the waters of a Norwegian fjord.

    Dumbest fucks in Europe and twice as ugly.

    Poor old Tax, a doddery old bathchair warrior skewered on the lance of his vacuous rhetoric and left high and dry on the down lands of genteel dementia clad in nothing but a rubber nappy emblazoned with a shrinking Union Jack and a picture of the Queen.

    So sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Well, Butters, two years later it seems the limp-dicked Tory wankers were bluffing all the time and have spunked their load in a jet of wank spume all over the geriatric Maybot.

    Britain has left the top table of EU politics and the economic bridge of a union of 500 millions consumers for a backwater of mediocrity occasionally lapped by the waters of a Norwegian fjord.

    Dumbest fucks in Europe and twice as ugly.

    Poor old Tax, a doddery old bathchair warrior skewered on the lance of his vacuous rhetoric and left high and dry on the down lands of genteel dementia clad in nothing but a rubber nappy emblazoned with a shrinking Union Jack and a picture of the Queen.

    So sad.
    You are so far past your sell by date, even Big Issue tramps wouldn’t touch your sad invective.

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    indeed.

    his potty mouthed rants, both here and elsewhere on the net, born of the streak of hate running through his veins after being given his p45 from the civil service to make way for some younger and smarter blood has distilled his opinion into nothing more than an anti establishment, anti brit diatribe of little foundation and even less consequence.

    regarding brexit, well the end game is upon us and we will see who blinks first.

    p.s. bathchair warrior my arse.

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    Peter Shore what a speech.

    Project fear 1975


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    ^ The UK was in deep pooh in the early to mid 70s. A lot has happened since, that allowed the UK to prosper. Without doubt being part of the EU was one of those turning points. I sincerely hope never to see the UK in such a position again.

    The maybot is trying to sell as soft a brexit as she can to brexiteers within her own government. It will be a compromise that puts the UK in a weaker position than it was. If a hard brexit was viable then it would have happened with no need for negotiations or deals.

    Thegent is not a grumpy man without reason. The whole idea of brexit has failed to take shape and those, like farage, who moan about the EU without proposing viable alternatives are the real enemy of the UK.

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    Still haven't had a persuasive argument as to how Britain expects a bottom line of independence from the EU (ie border sovereignty, Brit laws etc) with anything less than a hard Brexit; or how that would be good for real long term prospects as opposed to tinkering with numbers.

    If/when the lies on both sides are finally revealed that's when I reckon to see civil 'disobedience' on a massive scale. Some great bloke once said beware the anger of a patient man, and you need to search long and hard for more patient than Brits.

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    You'd spend far longer looking for anyone likely to throw a Molotov cocktail on issues related to BREXIT, imo.

    'What do we want?!'

    'Continuation of a frictionless trade area!!'

    'When do we want it?!...'

    No, I just don't see it.

    The chances of 'civil disobedience on a massive scale ' will be far higher if we lose against Sweden.

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    enough with the love talks guys, Brexit is a good thing for everyone

    UK will self destruct again and that's all that matters

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    It's impossible to 'self destruct again', though you certainly give it your best shot.

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    la buttplug grande

    UK will self destruct again and that's all that matters

    meanwhile, across the channel in france.





    Dozens of youths clashed with police and burnt property in the western city of Nantes overnight after officers shot dead a 22 year-old driver who had been stopped for traffic offences.

    Cars were torched and a shopping centre was set alight in Breil, a district of housing estates with largely immigrant populations. Some 200 riot police moved in to calm the violence, in which several vehicles and bus shelters were destroyed. The rampage spread to estates in the neighbouring Malakoff and Dervallières districts.


    shoulda' gone with le pen instead of the granny fucker.


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    I've met only a handful of successful right wing types, while most left wing types are more successful and better educated. Case in point, the Quitlings are forever braying about the 'will of the people'- this just shows how thick they are. England is a sovereign parliamentary democracy rather than a plebiscite. Had some time to kill in London last week so went to the Imperial war Museum (most Quitilings also won't stop yammering about the second world war), what struck me was that many of the warning of the second world war are also present today. Deja Vu. The rise of the alt right and their ilk need to be stamped out.

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    wrong thread Tax, as usual you aim in the wrong direction

    at least you tried,

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    Thought this was quite telling, J-C Juncker visiting the Flemish Parliament this month.


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    Wasted on him, power has placed him beyond reason, and anyway when it goes tits up he can blame Brexit or global warming or the Kurds.

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    I don’t disagree with any of that.

    Britain should remain ‘in’ and keep hammering such messages home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    I've met only a handful of successful right wing types, while most left wing types are more successful and better educated. Case in point, the Quitlings are forever braying about the 'will of the people'- this just shows how thick they are. England is a sovereign parliamentary democracy rather than a plebiscite. Had some time to kill in London last week so went to the Imperial war Museum (most Quitilings also won't stop yammering about the second world war), what struck me was that many of the warning of the second world war are also present today. Deja Vu. The rise of the alt right and their ilk need to be stamped out.
    Not a bad rant that. It forgets that the leftists are all of the same ilk as genticles. Never had a proper job in the real world, too busy climbing the civil service/parliament ladder into the gravy boat.

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    No socialist has ever had a real job and they're all too busy climbing the civil service/parliament ladder?

    Oh dear Chas...even by your standards that's an utterly piss-poor post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Not a bad rant that. It forgets that the leftists are all of the same ilk as genticles. Never had a proper job in the real world, too busy climbing the civil service/parliament ladder into the gravy boat.
    So what is a "real job"? I'm pretty sure mine is real, I turn up to a physical building and so something that results in me being paid for it. Is a proper job a shit job on a zero hours contract?

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    A bit of a brain fart from switch with that post. Utter papperlapapp!

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    fracture lines are slowly widening across the whole of the eu and the euro is a doomed currency.

    brussels, with its insistence on promoting and enforcing ideological dogma as opposed to pragmatic and flexible trading relationships of benefit to all has facilitated the rise of the right and the pain the inflexible euro is inflicting on the slower economies will only result in unemployment, hardship and dissent with the result of an even stronger right with all that that entails.

    the uk is so much better off out of it. watching from the sidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    fracture lines are slowly widening across the whole of the eu and the euro is a doomed currency.

    brussels, with its insistence on promoting and enforcing ideological dogma as opposed to pragmatic and flexible trading relationships of benefit to all has facilitated the rise of the right and the pain the inflexible euro is inflicting on the slower economies will only result in unemployment, hardship and dissent with the result of an even stronger right with all that that entails.

    the uk is so much better off out of it. watching from the sidelines.
    Problem is no matter how well Britain does after Brexit, assuming she does well, when the EU finally fragments as it must the fallout will take Britain and more with it.

    Socialists are in it for keeps, and when they go tits up it's invariably a communal affair.

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    ​From 'The Times' today:



    The German interior minister has backed Theresa May and attacked Brussels negotiators for putting “the security of citizens at risk” over Brexit, breaking European Union solidarity.

    The Times has seen a confidential letter from Horst Seehofer to the European Commission complaining about the consequences of its hard line in talks over Britain’s departure from the EU.

    It is the first time that European unity on the terms of Britain’s withdrawal has been shattered by such a senior politician. At an EU summit on Thursday last week Mrs May was rebuffed by other leaders and Jean-Claude Juncker, the commission president, when she said the commission risked lives by restricting post-Brexit security co-operation.

    In the letter, dated Wednesday last week, Mr Seehofer criticised the “stance taken by the commission”. He said: “It is not my intention to comment on the strategy of negotiations. However, in my capacity as German interior minister, I may be so bold as to stress that the security of citizens must have the highest priority. This must not be put at risk.”

    The commission and other EU governments have said there can be no substantive talks on a security treaty until Mrs May has agreed on Brussels’ “backstop” proposals to avoid a hard border in Ireland. Mr Seehofer, a conservative who plunged Angela Merkel’s coalition into crisis last week over migration, told Michel Barnier, the EU’s lead negotiator, that security “should take precedence over all other aspects in exit negotiations”. His letter challenges the idea that Britain must be treated like any other “third country”, such as the United States, after it leaves the EU.

    Mr Barnier has told Britain that it will be excluded from key crime-fighting and anti-terrorism databases; Europol, the EU’s police intelligence agency; the Schengen information system, which allows member states to share data on suspects and missing people; details on air passengers; and the European Criminal Records Information System.

    Mr Seehofer said the “threat of cross-border terrorism demonstrates the need for unlimited co-operation” and that “traditional third-country co-operation [was] no equivalent substitute”. He added: “We need a full security partnership with the UK which encompasses the entire EU security architecture.”

    The letter may not have been discussed in Mrs Merkel’s cabinet. Her government said: “We won’t comment on the communication between the interior ministry and the EU.” A spokesman for Mr Seehofer said the letter “unambiguously reflected” his position.

    The criticism is the most significant since France privately urged the commission to rethink its plan to exclude Britain from secure military aspects of Galileo, the EU-wide satellite navigation project, two months ago.


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