Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

It says exactly the opposite,, that it's bollocks to pretend the European Court has ever shackled UK courts.

It's not the first time that your errors have been pointed out and you've transparently fibbed about it all being part of your cunning plan.

Originally Posted by cyrille

It says exactly the opposite,, that it's bollocks to pretend the European Court has ever shackled UK courts.

It's not the first time that your errors have been pointed out and you've transparently fibbed about it all being part of your cunning plan.

The EU Court has always maintained its primacy, both before and after Brexit. It the UK legal system requires a human rights law to serve as an alternative, the UK should legislate for that, now it is no longer a member of the EU.

Originally Posted by Switch

The EU Court has always maintained its primacy, both before and after Brexit.

yep and lawyers love eking out yet another means to delay getting rid of the scum they represent and continue charging, meanwhile its the UK taxpayer that foots the bill to house and feed these people that should be deported.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

I'm well aware of the article

Except . . .

Originally Posted by cyrille

It says exactly the opposite

Originally Posted by cyrille

It's not the first time that your errors have been pointed out and you've transparently fibbed about it all being part of your cunning plan.

Whether it's about beer not being beer despite the brewer stating it's beer or countering France's influence and/or territories by going on about the English language . . . he'l eventually say it's a joke and how others have no sense of humour . . . instead of just stopping or even admitting he was/is wrong. A type of Backspit on steroids.

Originally Posted by Switch

the UK should legislate for that, now it is no longer a member of the EU.

Right, because the nasty EU has stopped the UK from doing so for centuries . . .
Jaysus, you and your mates need to grow up and recognise that the UK had more individuality in the EU than any other member and certainly wasn't forced to throw itself under the EU legal system - as has been pointed out, quoted, explained, proven etc...

Yet another strawman . . . why aren't you just ecstatic at being out - it's been how long now? Stop whining, accept that your pollies lied to you and that you're screwed in many ways

I see you've taken your ex-lax herr sheissegeist

BREXITer avoiding the substance of posts y-e-t a-g-a-i-n.

Remainers and plastic Euros continually butthurt. I think its all going fine thanks.

Originally Posted by malmomike77

I see you've taken your ex-lax herr sheissegeist

Originally Posted by cyrille

BREXITer avoiding the substance of posts y-e-t a-g-a-i-n.

It never stops . . . can't argue their way out of a paper bag and the brest they can do is:

Originally Posted by malmomike77

Remainers and plastic Euros continually butthurt.

A combination of alcohol, a terrible 'education' and genetics . . . no wonder Brexit scraped through.

Originally Posted by panama hat

It never stops . . . can't argue their way out of a paper bag and the brest they can do is:

A combination of alcohol, a terrible 'education' and genetics . . . no wonder Brexit scraped through.

Who needs to argue, it was decided by a vote. Its just as i said, remainers and their ex-masters can't accept it. Quite why a member of the master race sat at worlds end is so angry over it all is odd but then again he's a kraut, a country still uncomfortable with being called out for contributing nothing to culture except a novel use of glass coffee tables.

One year on, most voters say Brexit has gone badly

More than six out of 10 voters believe Brexit has either gone badly or worse than they expected – a year after the UK left the EU, according to an anniversary poll for the Observer.

The Opinium survey – coming a week after the minister in charge of Brexit, Lord Frost, resigned from Boris Johnson’s government – also found that 42% of people who voted Leave in 2016 had a negative view of how Brexit had turned out so far.

26% of Leave supporters said it had gone worse than they expected, while 16% of those who voted for Brexit said they had expected it to go badly and had been proved right.

Among people who voted Remain, 86% said it had gone badly or worse than they expected. Overall, just 14% of all voters said Brexit had gone better than expected.

Adam Drummond, of Opinium, said the most striking finding was that Leavers were now more hesitant about the virtues of Brexit than previously.

“For most of the Brexit process any time you’d ask a question that could be boiled down to ‘is Brexit good or bad?’ you’d have all of the Remainers saying ‘bad’ and all of the Leavers saying ‘good’ and these would cancel each other out,” he said.

“Now what we’re seeing is a significant minority of Leavers saying that things are going badly or at least worse than they expected. While 59% of Remain voters said, ‘I expected it to go badly and think it has’, only 17% of Leave voters said, ‘I expected it to go well and think it has’.

“Only 7% of Remainers think Brexit has gone better than expected versus 26% of Leavers saying it has gone worse than expected. So instead of two uniformly opposing blocs, the Remain bloc are still mostly united on Brexit being bad while the Leave bloc are a bit more split.”

The poll comes ahead of the introduction on 1 January of full customs checks on goods being exported from the EU to the UK, which business leaders believe could deter some smaller operators – such as food exporters – from supplying UK retailers as their costs and paperwork increase. These will be followed by more checks on food imports from mid-summer.

Shane Brennan, chief executive of the Cold Chain Federation, said he expected many of the problems faced over the past year by small UK businesses exporting to the EU, particularly the rising cost of sending small amounts because of new charges, would now confront those sending small specialist consignments the other way, from the EU to the UK.

He warned that this could lead to less availability of specialist food products from the continent arriving in UK shops. “Small traders have a choice, find a way to send more less often, or don’t send it at all,” Brennan said. “For lots of businesses you can’t justify sending a lorry load of fresh food a day or week and so you won’t do it. The net result is less variety, less fresh, quality specialist goods on the shelf, from outside the UK anyway.”

His fears were echoed by Dominic Goudie, head of international trade at the Food and Drink Federation, who said: “As new trade barriers are introduced, it is inevitable that businesses will experience issues at the border. In some cases, this could result in significant barriers that risk blocking deliveries from EU suppliers altogether, at least temporarily, while businesses adjust to the new requirements or restructure their supply chains.

“For just-in-time supply chains, this presents a real risk which could disrupt the operation of UK supply chains where a critically important ingredient is delayed or fails to arrive. Such delays could also lead to other ingredients already at factories being unusable.”

One year on, most voters say Brexit has gone badly | Brexit | The Guardian

cyrille, a self loathing left wing hypocrite with no connection whatsoever to the uk except the passport granting him the privilege he uses to gain employment in developing countries, and of course the unpaid debt he owes the uk for his education, (after which he immediately jumped ship for a tax free gig in a country famous for its racism, misogyny, homophobia and any other human rights abuses that spring to mind) and who now spends his waking hours crying on a thai expat forum about the democratic brexit he thought would never happen.

Unable to defend the biggest failure in modern politics, tax goes for the messenger.

No need for experts, no need for a good market, no need for standard democratic practices, just need the populist vote...

Brexit, a right British mess!

as i have been saying all along, brexit is a long game and will, after a couple of years of adaptation and re adjustment which in historical terms is a microsecond, prove to be the correct decision for the country in spite of the chaos caused by the pandemic.

No one knows how successful or not Brexit will be. Presently with Covid 19 affecting the world economy any conclusions only show a short sighted myopic view to suit the remainers narrative.

Originally Posted by taxexile

as i have been saying all along, brexit is a long game and will, after a couple of years of adaptation and re adjustment which in historical terms is a microsecond, prove to be the correct decision for the country in spite of the chaos caused by the pandemic.

Agreed and has been repeated often but Remainers will still be bleating in the 2030s and looking for reasons why it was a bad idea, the simply cannot move on.

It's a nice get-out-of-jail card, playing the long game, but there's nothing going to happen to make it any better than it is now. The cover-up that is Covid will soon disappear to reveal just how dire this Brexit mess is and how long it will last.
The worst mistake ever made in British politics...you'll all be long dead waiting for that long game to show benefits.

^ Yes, I agree with a lot if what you say but have still yet to hear about anyone who has thus far gained, apart ftom a few Etonion politicians and the Calais rubber dinghy salesmen. It can't all be about possible future gains? And I'm not exaggerating here but almost every single person I know and work with has found Brexit a total disaster.

A bird in the hand, and all that...

As for my personal circumstances... maybe unique... but aren't everyones? I can get around it maybe but life has become very difficult and retirement a few more years distant.

At least it's reassuring to know that future generations will be so much better off

At least it's reassuring to know that future generations will be so much better off

the way the west is blindly jumping off a cliff to reach the holy grail of net zero will ensure that nobody west of the danube is better off.

meanwhile china, india, russia et al are rubbing their hands with glee as the west suicidally commit to the impoverishment that a hastily attained net zero will ensure.

the 5% on a packet of euro food will be nothing compared to the costs imposed on us by going full green.

we should wait 25 years until the physicists have perfected the mini nuclear tech that will free us from the madness that is engulfing us due to the false panic of the climate crisis, 25 years will make no difference to the bloody planet, the glaciers or the fxcking polar bears.

Originally Posted by Mendip

^ Isn't it just.

I wouldn't say that I'm a 'Remainer', but all I comment on is the consequences Brexit has had on my life. I would say it's so far cost me around 50k Sterling and I'm now fighting to maintain a 30 year career working on the Continent. OK, so I appreciate that there's winners and losers in this, that's the way of it, but despite repeated requests I've yet to hear from a single 'winner'... apart from these much prophesied future gains that may happen. Of course we know about the fantastic but horrifically raised Queensland beef we can now look forward to, but there must be something else? Surely?

"Horifically" raised Qld Beef? None that I have seen. Most cattle here are grazed in large pastures. Not in feed lots. Do you have a reference Mendy?

^ To be honest 'horrifically' was strong... the Aussie runs strong in my wife and she really pissed me off yesterday. And the cricket hasn't helped.

The raising of Australian beef cattle doesn't meet European/UK standards on a number of criteria, including welfare and the use of anti-biotics and growth hormones. I think this is real shame as animal welfare should only move forwards and should never be compromised for a politician's desperation to show off the success of Brexit and all the free-trade deals he has now masterfully negotiated.

I watched a whistle-blower type documentary some time ago about the transportation of cattle without feed/water in the Queensland heat to be slaughtered and I think that could be classed as pretty horrific, although I don't know if that was the exception rather than the norm.

Why we should be concerned about a free-trade deal with Australia? - Sustainable Food Trust - Sustainable Food Trust