Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

the filthy foreigner who is little more than an inferior species because they have difficulties in their vaccine supply.

it is not the "filthy foreigner" that is the inferior species that your warped psyche imagines every brexiteer regards our european cousins, or indeed our fuzzy wuzzy brethren from further afield.

it is the gravy train riding power hungry blinkered policy making federalists of brussels that occupy that demographic. easy trading would be fine were it not encumbered with the baggage heaped upon it by the mandarins. the uk didnt like it, and voted against it and will slowly but surely adjust to the new conditions, as will brussels. after 40 years of being joined at the hip they need our business just as we need theirs and compromises will be reached, hands will be shaken and agreements and concessions will be signed.

pragmaticism will win out. it nearly always does.


... and why shouldnt the uk crow about its vaccine rollout success. the eu, and especially that duplicitous pillock micron, have taken every opportunity to belittle the british with their non stop falsifications and exaggerations. they fucked up big time over the vaccines, purely because of the stifling federalist nature of their union, whilst we, the underdog, freed from the shackles of an overwhelming bureaucracy, acting alone and against all the odds succeeded.

you are just another sneering champagne socialist, an irrelevance, now enjoying your taxpayer funded inflation linked bloated civil service pension, gifted to you after a few years of rubber stamping and pencil pushing whilst grovelling, cringing and fawning at the feet of your paymasters.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

She was merely the focal point within an array of agencies marshalled and coordinated by the Civil Service, you oaf.

Completely false as usual. Bingham was the ringmaster. Any participation by the CS clowns was purely incidental.
I do hope you are not classing the NHS frontline workers, or the thousands of volunteers entrusted with delivery as CS?
Thank goodness the lead weights like you have largely been weeded out of the service nowadays.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You dozy clot, Nadim Zorro was appointed parliamentary under secretary of state at the dept of health and care responsible for vaccine rollout, a fucking programme administered by civil servants in that fucking department.

Why are you so stupid, NAAFI boy?

You really should refresh my memory of the thousands of groundbreaking decisions made by the UK CS.
They are well known for sticking in the mud on anything that requires a decision. Thankfully, any important decision making process has now been turned into an agency, where the CS knuckle draggers have been ousted, and returned to become overpaid flunkeys in charge of the stationery cupboard. That’s something your high powered CS background will be familiar with.

The Civil Service is, and always has been a tool of government. The word tool, describes them, and you perfectly. The UK vaccine rollout is a success despite a very tenuous connection to the service, not because of it you lumpen fruit bat.

You blame the UK PM for everything you take as a personal sleight against you, but I often wonder how you would cope with Macron, Merkel, or even the Belgian PM? Their careers are littered with gaffes and errors of judgement, because unlike you, they have been entrusted with running a country.

Anyone who fails at politics is destined for a nice cushy job at the EU gravy train, just like Kinnock, Mandelson or Von def Leyen. Lucky for you that politics was such a mystery to you.

You're arguing over details, which are of course important but an easy distraction from the bigger picture of where we are and where we're going.

Union, that's what is, a Union, sounds nice, a Union run by a central authority that churns out decrees Thai-style and if anyone disobeys, sanctions; now with a slush fund intended to be weaponised with rule of law, which they never really needed, but it was something someone thought up to supplement existing rulez that justify kicking the juniors into line, and that can't be bad. And anyway it's not really a slush fund but a covid relief package, right?

Blimey did I say covid? Well when the chips were down where was your unity and 'strength' in numbers helping each other through hard times? What I saw was each one for himself and bollix to the women and kids if they're not German or French. You might forget, but real people don't.

I haven't been following recently, so please advise and no need to be civil I can deal with the expletives; have they starved the Poles and Hungarians into submission yet, or the Italians, or were these dissenters quietly paid to back off until they sort out the virus mess? I'm not sure they're looking forward to that either, because once the virus is under control as it will be, that's when the Euro-oiks will vent; won't be pleasant, big pops never are, but sooner is better than later.

And as ever some consolation for the terminal ephiles and our resident fools, none of the above is intended to remotely suggest that all is well in Blighty, far from.

Originally Posted by taxexile

it is not the "filthy foreigner" that is the inferior species that your warped psyche imagines every brexiteer regards our european cousins, or indeed our fuzzy wuzzy brethren from further afield.

it is the gravy train riding power hungry blinkered policy making federalists of brussels that occupy that demographic. easy trading would be fine were it not encumbered with the baggage heaped upon it by the mandarins. the uk didnt like it, and voted against it and will slowly but surely adjust to the new conditions, as will brussels. after 40 years of being joined at the hip they need our business just as we need theirs and compromises will be reached, hands will be shaken and agreements and concessions will be signed.

pragmaticism will win out. it nearly always does.


... and why shouldnt the uk crow about its vaccine rollout success. the eu, and especially that duplicitous pillock micron, have taken every opportunity to belittle the british with their non stop falsifications and exaggerations. they fucked up big time over the vaccines, purely because of the stifling federalist nature of their union, whilst we, the underdog, freed from the shackles of an overwhelming bureaucracy, acting alone and against all the odds succeeded.

you are just another sneering champagne socialist, an irrelevance, now enjoying your taxpayer funded inflation linked bloated civil service pension, gifted to you after a few years of rubber stamping and pencil pushing whilst grovelling, cringing and fawning at the feet of your paymasters.

You never really got over getting run out of Samui and being snubbed by all the beautiful people who thought little of this rather eccentric little British tooth puller.
Incidentally, the EU ordered over 1.5 billion doses from a miscellaneous group of suppliers and this may well assist when all the British grunters zapped by the inferior AZ vaccine start falling like flies next winter.

The UK is eating itself.

This video applies to you brexit retards...

Originally Posted by Joe 90

made in Britain

What is? Basically nothing. English motors are all built by the Germans. They just "let" you finish the interiors.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

The AZ jab has better protection against the mutations, stops spreading and we are getting two doses which make it highly effective.

Err...it has an efficacy of 70% compared to 95% for Pfizer, and 94% for Moderna.


How the top 3 COVID-19 vaccines compare, in one chart

Originally Posted by cyrille

Err...it has an efficacy of 70% compared to 95 % for Pfizer, and 94% for Moderna.

But yeah, it 'stops spreading'!

What a fucking brilliant move!

Who'd a thunk it...a vaccine that 'stops spreading'.

Or at least has a 70% chance of doing so.

They'll come up with one that can make tea next, I'll bet.

Read the article you pair of numpties....

The Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine may prevent people from spreading Covid, according to a new study.


It's the first time a vaccine has been shown to stop the transmission of the virus, as well as offering protection from becoming seriously ill and dying with it.


What are the findings?

The study, carried out by the University of Oxford, carried out weekly tests on people who had received the vaccine, to see if they were still carrying any trace of Covid.


The number who tested positive dropped by half after they had been given two doses of the vaccine.


If this study - which has not been formally published - is correct, it means that most people who are vaccinated protect other people too because they are not spreading the virus.


As well as showing an effect on transmission, the study found that a single dose of the vaccine offered 76% effective protection for three months. That means over seven out of 10 people who developed coronavirus had not had the actual vaccine.


How does the Oxford vaccine work?

It is made from a weakened version of a common cold virus (known as an adenovirus) from chimpanzees. It has been modified to look more like coronavirus - although it can't cause illness.


When the vaccine is injected into a patient, it prompts the immune system to start making antibodies and primes it to attack any coronavirus infection.


Research has shown it is highly effective. No one given the vaccine in trials developed severe Covid or needed hospital treatment.


Unlike Pfizer's jab - which has to be kept at an extremely cold temperature (-70C) - the Oxford vaccine can be stored in a normal fridge. This makes it much easier to distribute.




When was the vaccine approved?

The vaccine was approved for use by the MHRA (the UK's regulatory body) on 30 December


It was developed quickly because Oxford University researchers had already done a lot of work on developing a vaccine which could be adapted to tackle different diseases.


Hospitals administered the first doses to older patients early in January 2021.


Supplies were then sent to hundreds of GP-led services and care homes across the UK.

• When will you be eligible for the vaccine?

media caption82-year-old Brian Pinker is given the Oxford vaccine at the Churchill Hospital in Oxford
The MHRA approved the use of two full doses, which was found to be 62% effective.


And as with the other vaccines, scientists don't yet know if it stops people catching Covid - that's something they won't know until they can see the impact of vaccination over time.

• Can people with allergies have the Covid vaccine?
• What you need to know about vaccine safety
• How do the Covid vaccines compare?

Why are some European countries limiting their use of the vaccine?

Germany, Austria and France say they will only offer the vaccine to 18-64 year olds because there is not enough data on how well it protects the over-65s.


AstraZeneca says its clinical trial data "supports efficacy in the over-65s age group". Earlier studies show that older people, as well as younger people, appear to have an equally strong immune response to the vaccine.


Public Health England said the company's data on the vaccine's immune responses was "very reassuring".


The European Medicines Agency approved the vaccine in January for use in all age groups, including older adults.


Is the Oxford vaccine as good as the Pfizer?

Trials showed the Pfizer vaccine was 95% effective, but there were differences in the way the trials were carried out, so directly comparing the two results is difficult.


And it's important to remember that even the lower 62% figure is a better result than the best flu jab, which is about 50% effective.


What is more, no-one who received the Oxford vaccine was hospitalised or became seriously ill due to Covid.


How long do vaccines protect against Covid for?

A recent study found a single dose of the Oxford vaccine offered 76% protection for three months, and this went up to 82% after the second dose.


It is not yet known how long protection lasts in the long run, but a separate study found people are protected after being infected for at least six months - and vaccines are likely to provide longer protection than this.


It may be that people need annual vaccinations, as happens with the flu jab.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

Read the article you pair of numpties....

Yeah, that's always my first source of info...your 'catapulted at the screen' c+ps.



Put a link up at the top, you dozy twat.

Originally Posted by bsnub

What is? Basically nothing. English motors are all built by the Germans. They just "let" you finish the interiors.

What you know about the British Motor manufacturing industry could be written down on the back of a postage stamp.

Fvck arguing with you two numptys, i'm off out for a sunny bike ride.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Yeah, that's always my first source of info...your 'catapulted at the screen' c+ps.



Put a link up at the top, you dozy twat.

Plenty of links in the BBC article you knob jockey.

The problem with Brexiteers, and this is a fundamental obstacle that is essentially insurmountable no matter how assiduous one might be in attempting to illuminate what is little more than a void of bleak and gloomy emptiness, is that they are quite, quite stupid.

And no matter what the subject under debate may be, they bring nothing to the table but ignorance and foolish imbecility one might normally associate with congenital idiots or the recently decapitated.

The underlying conclusion applicable to all vaccines so far developed is they all seem to protect the immunised from hospitalisation and death.

Which is fine and a reassuring prognosis.

That the UK is a month ahead of the EU is only important to those who value sticking their pointy heads up their arse and talking shite which is of course the lingua franca of Brexiteers and their Tory right wing masters.

The amusing thing about this thread is the loudest remoaners on here didn't even vote in the referendum

WTF is Bsnub doing on here? He's got no one left to argue and bully off the forum so comes to the Brexit thread cruisin' for a bruisin'

I voted Brexit and am proud of the legacy i will leave to my children

Originally Posted by Joe 90

The amusing thing about this thread is the loudest remoaners on here didn't even vote in the referendum

Not an argument, but for the record I did vote and I posted it at the time.

Originally Posted by Joe 90

I voted Brexit and am proud of the legacy i will leave to my children

I doubt you have any idea of the benefits being in the EU brought nor any idea of the difficulties leaving has on so many.

The foreign language education in the UK was abysmal when I was at school and it has improved very little since.

Originally Posted by Troy

The foreign language education in the UK was abysmal when I was at school and it has improved very little since.

Well Troy your history lessons will have revealed the extraordinary efforts England went to to ensure the world had a universal language, why even to this day your beloved institution devoid of its most sensible member has declined Pres Microns bid to establish Froggie as the Lingua Franca in favour of the only comprehensible language this planet possesses, American attempts to use it otherwise aside.

^ My history lessons confirm that SA is correct in stating the current government is the worst in at least two centuries, if not since Cromwell...

Originally Posted by Joe 90

What you know about the British Motor manufacturing industry could be written down on the back of a postage stamp.

Actual if Cyrille's forebears hadn't spent the 70's and 80's round fires in oil drums outside the places they should have been working, then he would probably have followed the family career in the "It'll do" production line in the Midlands, of course dexterity and common sense may have ruled him out during his probation period so teaching accented English is probably for the best.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ My history lessons confirm that SA is correct in stating the current government is the worst in at least two centuries, if not since Cromwell...

Not sure that is case Troy, last century had a number of contenders but i will agree the quality of politicians isn't improving (and not just in the UK). I truly believe its root is in the inclusion of advisors from the mid 60s onward which these days, as lobbyists in all but name have contributed to the general decline in MP's and Ministers by absolving themselves of grasping even the simplest of concepts, issues or portfolios whilst they help said MPs understand their career options, salaries and perks after their short life in parliament. Sadly this country and Westminster are moving the way of that cesspool Washington.

Of course Civil Servants are there in the background to....oh wait.....perhaps they have suffered the same decline aided as they are by untold consultants.

“Before concluding a contract [...] the 27 member states had five full days to say whether they agreed or not. This naturally delays the process."

By three months? Shut up you stupid bitch, you gave the job to the wrong people and you should resign in disgrace.