Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

the success of UKIP and Farage

Are you disputing their success? A party solely set up to get the UK out of the EU and mission accomplished, you want to define that as anything other than success?

Silly Brexit Bot

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...fishing-rights
We sold it to you but now we want it back for free. Don't have much faith in trade negotiations if this is the level of logic on display by the Tories

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Are you disputing their success? A party solely set up to get the UK out of the EU and mission accomplished, you want to define that as anything other than success?

Admirable, to campaign for your own demise.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Are you disputing their success? A party solely set up to get the UK out of the EU and mission accomplished, you want to define that as anything other than success?

unfortunately, it's a complete failure, and another half ass done job by your corrupted politicians

you are not out yet, only in name, which is good enough for us as long as you no longer make decisions in the EU

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

unfortunately, it's a complete failure, and another half ass done job by your corrupted politicians

you are not out yet, only in name, which is good enough for us as long as you no longer make decisions in the EU

The U.K. never made a single decision in the EU.
All decisions are made by an unelected commission, who arrange for the parliament to rubber stamp those decisions.

Thats why U.K. voters want out of your ‘socialist, undemocratic French paradise’.

^ Where on Earth did you get that load of tosh from?

I had someone going on about the farmers woes with having to leave fields fallow with low compensation. It was brought up as a good reason for brexit. Good fun explaining that it was brought in on an Irish watch and was withdrawn in 2009.

Too many silly misunderstandings about the inner workings of the EU.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Where on Earth did you get that load of tosh from?

I had someone going on about the farmers woes with having to leave fields fallow with low compensation. It was brought up as a good reason for brexit. Good fun explaining that it was brought in on an Irish watch and was withdrawn in 2009.

Too many silly misunderstandings about the inner workings of the EU.

Just take a quick look at the EU legislative process.
The commission decides which proposal go before the EU parliament.
The MEPs consider it and rubber stamp it.
The parliament has no say in new legislation or amendments unless the commission proposes it.

As you rightly point out, set aside or fallow land payments were abandoned, despite the proven wildlife benefits, but that is not the case I am making here. It’s about the lack of democracy at the heart of an ailing EU socialist empire.

^ Jeez, the UK, along with France and Italy, have 72 MEPs, second only to Germany with 99. What more fooking influence are you looking for?

Post Brexit, the UK will have ZERO MPs and for the first 2 years and will have to swallow whatever is thrown at them. Following the 2-year transition the UK will still need to go along with EU legislation if they wish to continue trading in Europe, but with ZERO MPs and ZERO influence.

The idea that the UK can turn its back on the EU, especially regards trade, is nothing short of poppycock.

^The number of MEPs is irrelevant. They are powerless to act against the commission. The European Parliament is impotent. At best it is a blunt instrument.
It explains why so many Brits are sick of it and the unaccountability of the whole institution.
I really don’t care what happens there because it doesn’t really affect me, but I can see why people are disenchanted with it.
Explain to me why the taxpayer should support a left wing radical socialist experiment, yet have no say in how it’s run, member or not.
The only difference is that members pay for the privilege of having someone anonymous make decisions for them.

Provide a couple of examples where the EU commission has brought something to the table that was unwanted, which was pushed through by MEPs because they are irrelevant....as you state.

Making generalisations without backing them up with factual examples is just talking bollox in your beer as far as I'm concerned. The idea such talk persuaded people to vote brexit speaks volumes about those people.

Originally Posted by Troy

Provide a couple of examples where the EU commission has brought something to the table that was unwanted, which was pushed through by MEPs because they are irrelevant....as you state.

Making generalisations without backing them up with factual examples is just talking bollox in your beer as far as I'm concerned. The idea such talk persuaded people to vote brexit speaks volumes about those people.

https://www.ft.com/content/03cdb23a-...f-21b88f7d973f


https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-no-referendum

Two should be enough for now. There are so many others.
Your EU support is not only flawed Troy, it’s also lazy.

Originally Posted by Switch

^The number of MEPs is irrelevant. They are powerless to act against the commission. The European Parliament is impotent. At best it is a blunt instrument.
It explains why so many Brits are sick of it and the unaccountability of the whole institution.
I really don’t care what happens there because it doesn’t really affect me, but I can see why people are disenchanted with it.
Explain to me why the taxpayer should support a left wing radical socialist experiment, yet have no say in how it’s run, member or not.
The only difference is that members pay for the privilege of having someone anonymous make decisions for them.

You fucking ignorant moron, the Commission is an executive, not a legislature, it drafts laws which are then approved by the EP and Council. Fucking stupid Brexshitters couldn't tell their arses from a fucking hole in the ground.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

You fucking ignorant moron, the Commission is an executive, not a legislature, it drafts laws which are then approved by the EP and Council. Fucking stupid Brexshitters couldn't tell their arses from a fucking hole in the ground.

Thank you for confirming my synopsis, even though your nomenclature is unnecessarily convoluted, the principle remains the same.
KISS

Presumably, you derive an income from manual labour?

Originally Posted by Troy

Provide a couple of examples where the EU commission has brought something to the table that was unwanted, which was pushed through by MEPs because they are irrelevant....as you state.

Making generalisations without backing them up with factual examples is just talking bollox in your beer as far as I'm concerned. The idea such talk persuaded people to vote brexit speaks volumes about those people.

the funny thing is that the influence of the UK on the EU was real and measurable, maybe not publicly on the Parliament floor, but in corridors and in lobbying their vision of Europe, hence opposing certain progress for a complete union

their influence was real, and the US knew it, hence why they were opposed to Brexit

ask any EU bureaucrats and diplomats in Brussels, Germany, or France and they will tell you how the key jobs and most crucial tasks were carried by the Brits, and how they would use their experience to make sure those directives were fully applied back home in the UK, much more than any country

Brexit is going to change all that, and France and Belgium influence will be back

and France and Belgium influence will be back ........

...... thereby ensuring that the eu slowly but surely implodes under the weight of its own pomposity, bullying, interference and intrusion.

Originally Posted by Switch

All decisions are made by an unelected commission, who arrange for the parliament to rubber stamp those decisions.

Like the unelected constituency selectors who choose which candidates will stand for "election" by the 'informed" voters, eh? Or the corporate sponsors who decide with their pocketbook, whose campaign will or will not be funded?

It's a charade to keep the masses fooled. Always has, always will.

Originally Posted by OhOh

e.g. bankrupting the Greek country.

Originally Posted by OhOh

e.g. bankrupting the Greek country.

Oh! I know this one!

Is it...Greece?

Originally Posted by taxexile

...... thereby ensuring that the eu slowly but surely implodes under the weight of its own pomposity, bullying, interference and intrusion.

gee, I wonder how we managed without you guys until 1975

remember, you were begging to join as your country was collapsing

Brexiteers send customs 'ultimatum' to Theresa May - BBC News

Senior Brexiteer MPs have delivered an "ultimatum" demanding Theresa May drops one of the government's preferred post-Brexit customs options.

A 30-page document passed to the BBC says a "customs partnership" would make meaningful trade deals "impossible" to forge and render the UK's International Trade Department "obsolete".

It comes ahead of a key meeting of senior ministers on Wednesday.

They will discuss the different options to replace customs union membership.

The issue threatens to split the meeting of the Brexit sub-committee and could have long-term implications for the government.

May appeased them by delaying a decision. What a circus this is turning out to be.