Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

let's hope things will get interesting, it has been a boring week so far!!!

Special sitting for MPs to decide Brexit future
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49984367

MPs will be called to Parliament for a special Saturday sitting in a decisive day for the future of Brexit.

Parliament will meet on 19 October after a crunch EU summit - seen as the last chance for the UK and EU to agree a deal ahead of 31 October deadline.

If a deal is agreed, Boris Johnson will ask MPs to approve it - but if not, a range of options could be presented.

The BBC's Laura Kuenssberg says these could include leaving without a deal, and halting Brexit altogether.

The prime minister has said he is determined the UK leaves the EU on 31 October, despite legislation passed by MPs last month, known as the Benn Act, which requires Mr Johnson to write to the EU requesting a further delay if a deal is not signed off by Parliament by 19 October - or unless MPs agree to a no-deal Brexit.

No 10 has insisted Mr Johnson will comply with the law, but Laura Kuenssberg says there are still conversations going on in Downing Street about writing a second letter, making the case that a delay is unnecessary.

The House of Commons has only sat on four Saturdays since 1939, including on 2 September that year, due to the outbreak of World War Two.

The last time there was a Saturday sitting was 3 April 1982, due to the invasion of the Falkland Islands.

I'm beginning to think bj might be a closet fence dweller chanting Leave for employment purposes, while sliding quietly into the remain camp a la predecessor.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the EU will find other markets to export their shit,

until you get a EU license to import, you are not going to get anything from the EU

funny days ahead

That's a subtle declaration of war, from the Frau I understand but surely not from your species.

Originally Posted by jabir

I'm beginning to think bj might be a closet fence dweller chanting Leave for employment purposes, while sliding quietly into the remain camp a la predecessor.

of course he is, double speak English 2 face scum

Fucking hilarious......the entire world now realises BoJo and his weird crew of dysfunctional tenth raters and orcs are a brick short of the proverbial load and in most circles the best anyone can muster in describing the ERG fuckwits is that they are ..........immature.

Most however now know the BoJo Road Show is no more than a fucking condom with a hole and just about everyone with a functioning brain now wants out of the Brexit nightmare.

17.4 million rather stupid people are now not seen as a sensible basis to govern, a devaluation of the currency by 25% is not a bonus and the contraction of the economy by 0.1 % is not an improvement.

The entire CBI and business community want this to stop.

Nissan is now preparing to close Sunderland down.

Honda have gone and BMW are about to relocate to Holland, and Airbus are quitting Wales and Bistol.

One wonders just what does it take to comprehend that Brexit is shit?

Domestic consumption has not been this low since 2010, the entire tourist industry is trying to work out just how it will function when 200,000 EU workers fuck off and the NHS is working out just who will wipe over half a million geriatric Brits' arses when no one is left to do the shit shovelling.

Fucking A.

^ yeah, perhaps we can train some of our unemployed to be nurses, domestic helpers, etc. Actually pay people to work rather than claim benefits...

why would you want to do that?

Al quiet on Boris shitshow this week, extension is imminent

Brexit secretary returns to Brussels after 'promising' UK-Ireland talks
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-50007206

Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay is to meet the EU's chief negotiator later - after Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his Irish counterpart agreed they could "see a pathway to a possible deal".

The PM and Leo Varadkar held "detailed and constructive" talks for over two hours on Thursday at a country house.

Mr Varadkar said the "very positive" meeting in north-west England meant negotiations could resume in Brussels.

Mr Barclay and Michel Barnier will hold talks there later this morning.

It comes ahead of a crunch summit of EU leaders on 17 and 18 October, which is seen as the last chance for the UK and the EU to agree a deal ahead of 31 October Brexit deadline.

Northern Ireland Secretary Julian Smith told BBC NI's The View he was "delighted to see the positivity that came out of the meeting" between Mr Johnson and Mr Varadkar.

He added: "We do need to compromise, we do need to focus on coming together and having an accommodation."

Mr Varadkar had earlier refused to be drawn on what "concessions" had been made by either side.

Downing Street has not commented on Irish press reports suggesting "significant movement" has been made by Mr Johnson.

Timeline: What's happening ahead of Brexit deadline?

Monday 14 October - The Commons is due to return, and the government will use the Queen's Speech to set out its legislative agenda. The speech will then be debated by MPs throughout the week.

Thursday 17 October - Crucial two-day summit of EU leaders begins in Brussels. This is the last such meeting currently scheduled before the Brexit deadline.

Saturday 19 October - Special sitting of Parliament and the date by which the PM must ask the EU for another delay to Brexit under the Benn Act, if no Brexit deal has been approved by Parliament and they have not agreed to the UK leaving with no-deal.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

The PM and Leo Varadkar held "detailed and constructive" talks for over two hours on Thursday at a country house.

Wow, "for over two hours" can you imagine that..
I'd always thought that the Irish border problem was a difficult one and then they solve it in just two hours time. Way to go BoJo!

Originally Posted by lom

Wow, "for over two hours" can you imagine that..
I'd always thought that the Irish border problem was a difficult one and then they solve it in just two hours time. Way to go BoJo!

yep, he broke his own record of 30 days to resolve the whole thing

You have to wonder why they didn't think of it before if they could do it in 2 fooking hours

By standing up to the EU, Boris may show it to be the paper tiger that sceptics have always suspected it to be. For the EU, Brexit presents an existential crisis – if Britain leaves and make a success of it, it is the beginning of the end for it. Others will surely follow, as squeaking rats scurry over the side of a sinking ship. For that reason, they were never going to make it easy for us to leave and May should have been prepared for a battle to the death – which means leaving without a deal.
When Boris gets us out and then call to that basic, decent patriotism across Europe – to countries, rather than Brussels – he could be a figure of the same international weight as his heroes Churchill and Thatcher, both politicians with a visceral connection to the nation state.
We know that Boris has prepared for being PM by studying the greatest of all his predecessors – what better preparation could there be than studying Churchill? – and perhaps what he says, and does now, could lead all Europe into broad, sunlit uplands. I wonder if we are now in one of those tides-in-the-affairs-of-men moments? Perhaps these are great days not just for him but for all of us.
The second argument that has taken him to power is his articulation of a vision of Brexit as a huge opportunity, a giant Singapore, a free trade superpower off the coast of Europe, with a free trade deal with America and a free trade with Europe. Remain did not have such a powerful idea – all those who want Britain to stay in the EU can say is that it’s not possible to leave or that bad things would happen if we did.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

By standing up to the EU, Boris may show it to be the paper tiger that sceptics have always suspected it to be. For the EU, Brexit presents an existential crisis – if Britain leaves and make a success of it, it is the beginning of the end for it. Others will surely follow, as squeaking rats scurry over the side of a sinking ship. For that reason, they were never going to make it easy for us to leave and May should have been prepared for a battle to the death – which means leaving without a deal.
When Boris gets us out and then call to that basic, decent patriotism across Europe – to countries, rather than Brussels – he could be a figure of the same international weight as his heroes Churchill and Thatcher, both politicians with a visceral connection to the nation state.
We know that Boris has prepared for being PM by studying the greatest of all his predecessors – what better preparation could there be than studying Churchill? – and perhaps what he says, and does now, could lead all Europe into broad, sunlit uplands. I wonder if we are now in one of those tides-in-the-affairs-of-men moments? Perhaps these are great days not just for him but for all of us.
The second argument that has taken him to power is his articulation of a vision of Brexit as a huge opportunity, a giant Singapore, a free trade superpower off the coast of Europe, with a free trade deal with America and a free trade with Europe. Remain did not have such a powerful idea – all those who want Britain to stay in the EU can say is that it’s not possible to leave or that bad things would happen if we did.

Fair comment, but the EU do not want us to leave, regardless of our success or failure. The very act of leaving is what undermines the EU principle of unchallenged fusion toward a single European nation (USofE) under the control of bureauprats in Brussels. Brussels, ffs!

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

By standing up to the EU, Boris may show it to be the paper tiger that sceptics have always suspected it to be. For the EU, Brexit presents an existential crisis – if Britain leaves and make a success of it, it is the beginning of the end for it. Others will surely follow, as squeaking rats scurry over the side of a sinking ship. For that reason, they were never going to make it easy for us to leave and May should have been prepared for a battle to the death – which means leaving without a deal.
When Boris gets us out and then call to that basic, decent patriotism across Europe – to countries, rather than Brussels – he could be a figure of the same international weight as his heroes Churchill and Thatcher, both politicians with a visceral connection to the nation state.
We know that Boris has prepared for being PM by studying the greatest of all his predecessors – what better preparation could there be than studying Churchill? – and perhaps what he says, and does now, could lead all Europe into broad, sunlit uplands. I wonder if we are now in one of those tides-in-the-affairs-of-men moments? Perhaps these are great days not just for him but for all of us.
The second argument that has taken him to power is his articulation of a vision of Brexit as a huge opportunity, a giant Singapore, a free trade superpower off the coast of Europe, with a free trade deal with America and a free trade with Europe. Remain did not have such a powerful idea – all those who want Britain to stay in the EU can say is that it’s not possible to leave or that bad things would happen if we did.

Way too verbose and well written to come from a chav like you. Stolen from https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/0...ropes-saviour/

grasp that you are pawns in their monetary policy - if you do not understand that they care about their cash being subject to real questions more than they care about you then you are doomed

It aint over till the fat lady sings.

Standing up to the EU?

Its the fucking UK that's leaving and they aren't getting fuck all until they do what they are told to do if they want those cherries.

The English are no more than nodding toy dogs on the back seat of the Brexit jalopy bumping over a potholed road until it hits a brick wall of irrelevance.

jesus, on what planets are you guys living

Has Bo-Jo pulled a rabbit out of the hat?

Jolly-ho!

Originally Posted by Troy

Has Bo-Jo pulled a rabbit out of the hat?

Jolly-ho!

Yes, then shoved it up Donald Tusks hole

It appears the DUP and the Irish are on board!

The last 3 years has been a side show!

Brexit is on....

If all parties feel they have gained from the deal then we have a successful compromise.

Hats off to Boris if he manages a successful brexit by the end of the month.

The sheer inanity of perception by the usual Brexit munters is usually breathtaking but I have to say they are truly excelling themselves this week.

After failing utterly in intimidating his own party into falling into line with his ragbag cabinet of tenth raters, misfits and failures, after losing to parliament in Westminster, and then losing to them in the Courts, and after being told unanimously by the EU to fuck off with his puerile tub thumping, BoJo the Clown and the loony ERG Tory Kippers finally accept defeat and rather than be booted out of office they capitulate and concede something the EU already wanted three fucking years ago - NI remains in the EU, economically.

And the lower end claim it a victory for BoJo?

The EU has played a blinder in sticking to their guns and maintaining their statesman like approach in a unanimous display of principled negotiation which has culminated in the stupid English accepting reality. Boris and the DUP have taken it up the arse but the EU are cleverly letting the dumbos think its an ' agreement'.

Now you can have your Brexit which of course is going to yield riches beyond the dreams of Croesus.

Still, it has been worth it just to read Tax's reference to BoJo's " statecraft" - a cock happy sexual addict who shagged himself senseless with an American slapper to whom he bunged £120,000 of taxpayer's dosh and then invited on official business at public expense for more sexual gratification, and then sponsors her visa application to remain in London is a statesman?

Yep, we've all been there but we didn't call it statecraft.

Brexit, the farce that just keeps on giving.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The EU has played a blinder in sticking to their guns and maintaining their statesman like approach in a unanimous display of principled negotiation which has culminated in the stupid English accepting reality. Boris and the DUP have taken it up the arse but the EU are cleverly letting the dumbos think its an ' agreement'.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

And the lower end claim it a victory for BoJo?

I've read the whole WA, all 582 pages of it and to me it seems quite reasonable, much of it is reciprocity or tit-for-tat but it seems a lot of posters here think it is a bad agreement but they have not specified which part/section of the agreement they don't like so I can only conclude that they are babbling.
The deal being worked on now is the same deal as one year ago except for some minor changes to the backstop, a backstop that EU all the time has been open to change as soon as a better or equivalent way is found and agreed about.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

As has been stated from Day 1: the lying, cheating EU will bluff and bluff until they feel the game is up then they'll start negotiating; here we go

The EU is blinking, eh? Well you can believe that if it makes you happier.
If there will be a deal now then it is Theresa May's deal you get and she must be pissing herself from laughter.