Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Some of your prized 'other viewpoints', betty...

I note that Brexishitters like Chass and Buriram have gone awfully quiet,

are they realizing what dead end they are heading to?

probably not, still hoping for a successful Brexit

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

It is really becoming quite bizarre. Whereas the reality is that the BoJo ERG cabal have nothing to offer in the way of negotiating ammunition other than vacuous rhetoric, lies and stupid ploys based on idiotic fantasies, the slap headed Goebbels Dommer Cummings has them all fannying around the country spouting utter nonsense that they are on the cusp of a solution.

indeed, quite bizarre, but not unusual, we call it 'doing a Brit', that is engaging into a mind fuck argument ala Monty Python only to loose the point at the end

Boris has no fooking plan, and no fooking clue. It's not even sure he believes in Brexit at all, and must be doing this to please a small group of loons he likes to hang around with, you know loons like that creep JRM, which I think Boris is trying to impress since he seems to follow a playbook that only JRM could have dream of

wouldn't it be funny if that suspension was ruled illegal

Boris Johnson to 'see what judges say' on recalling Parliament
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49722087

Boris Johnson has said he will "wait and see what the judges say" before deciding whether to recall Parliament.

The Supreme Court will hear two appeals that will determine whether the prime minister acted lawfully in suspending Parliament for five weeks.

Edinburgh's Court of Session said the shutdown was unlawful and London's High Court said it was not a court matter.

On Monday the PM visited Luxembourg for Brexit talks, but the EU said it was yet to see concrete proposals.

Mr Johnson pulled out of a joint press conference with Luxembourg Prime Minister Xavier Bettel, blaming noisy protesters, but Mr Bettel went on to criticise Mr Johnson's approach to Brexit.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Brexit is indeed Ebola. A hard Brexit is inevitable but the British have done themselves no favours by investing their trust in the tub of BoJo lard. There is no fucking way the EU are going to sacrifice the integrity of the cohesion of their single market by conceding anything significant to the British if this silly albino cvunt continues to insult their intelligence.

Please demonstrate the integrity and cohesion of the single market, or the EU. The entire edifice is a political sham built on corruption. The sane amongst us have not been hoodwinked by your EU puppet masters. You can go now. I always thought we would find a use for euthanasia.

Boris has no fooking plan,

There is no plan, and he doesnt need a plan. He has come to the conclusion that the UK, in spite of the initial and hopefully short term shock of a hard brexit, will be better off outside the EU. He is playing the long game. Yesterdays amateur ambush at the press conference shows the contempt in which the EU hold the UK.

The UK, if it can avoid Corbyns mass suicide pact, will thrive ans as the EU over the next 10 years is riven by increasingly acrimonious internal disputes, more and more restrictive legislation and its doomed attempts at integration the UK will indeed turn out to be a beacon of industry, hope and happiness freed from the incessant meddling, backbiting and bullying that the germans and french do so well.

And it was left to Luxembourg, that corrupt haemorrhoid in the EUs rectum, to orchestrate the noisy demo within 10 metres of the press conference. Boris was right to walk away. For once he showed some dignity.

October 31is only the beginning. Its a very long game, and the UK will eventually prove that despite all the acrimony and chaos, to leave the EU was the right decision. And if we can rid ourselves of the bloodsucking leech state called scotland in the process, then so much the better. Let brussels pick up the bill for subsidising the greed of their two faced bastard politicians.

Boris, unlike corbyn the mildewed marxist or that horsefaced harridan lib dem with the teeth and tits, is standing up for the UK, and I just hope he can pull it off.

Long game SA, in 5 years time you will be saying "Tax was spot on, how come I couldnt see it"

The reason you cant see it SA is that you are obsessed with your lumpen bluecollars, the ditchdiggers you despise so much and the tory filth that populate your deluded hallucinations.

You need to stop reading the guardian. It is poisoning whats left of your broiled mind.

tax, again the issue is not the outcome but the methodology

you are a dentist, right? imagine if to remove some tooth, you thought it was a good idea to do it without anesthesia and clean tools, but the hard way, like they used to do it in the 18th century

that's what Boris is doing. I think Brexit has some merit of its own, but the way you fookers approach the whole thing is barbarian and stone age

at the same time, Boris and the Brexit politicians are demonstrating how clueless they are, their methods simply belongs to another age, and clearly they are not living in the right century

a dentist advocating using 18th century tooth pulling is simply not capable to work in the current century,

that's all there is to it,

Originally Posted by taxexile

There is no plan, and he doesnt need a plan. He has come to the conclusion that the UK, in spite of the initial and hopefully short term shock of a hard brexit, will be better off outside the EU. He is playing the long game. Yesterdays amateur ambush at the press conference shows the contempt in which the EU hold the UK.


u cant see it SA is that you are obsessed with your lumpen bluecollars, the ditchdiggers you despise so much and the tory filth that populate your deluded hallucinations.

You need to stop reading the guardian. It is poisoning whats left of your broiled mind.

Oh dear Tax, your dementia seems to have advanced to that stage when you wake up in the early hours of the morning, dress yourself over your jim-jams and start bouncing off the walls asking for your favourite Lego set.

Sacrificing membership of an open market of 500 million consumers a mere 22 miles away from one's front door and beneficial access to the world's significant Asian and South American markets in order to realise a fantasy peddled by tax avoiders and carpetbagging shills looking to exploit Britain's lower end because they are too stupid to realise they are being fucked is not going to achieve anything other than conflict, confrontation and economic collapse.

I'm actually now firmly in Butterfly's camp, I want England to go for this Micawberesque deluded fantasy of a "clean" Brexit because I think it will be the fastest route to the end of the Acts of Settlement when Ireland and Scotland were annexed under the yoke of colonial Englidsh oppression and Europe will be free to form a closer federal state protecting its peoples from the depredations of American economic hegemony and Russo-Chinese expansionism.

Engerlandia will be an anachronism and essentially a bargain basement tat destination for the world's rich and European tourists looking for a cheap weekend and a shag with some drunken English slapper putting out for pin money.

But first we shall have to see Belfast and Derry in flames again, a recession full of strikes, inflation and economic contraction when the entire car production in the UK and Airbus quit the country leading to the collapse of the manufacturing sector and tariffs destroy the agricultural/food processing industries. Once escape velocity has been achieved, accelerated by the collapse in law and order, then both NI and Scotland will be free at last.

Tax, if you live long enough, you will witness the transition of Albion into a coon, third world state, a little bit of Afro-Asia off the northwest coast of Europe.

^

time will tell.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

beneficial access to the world's significant Asian and South American markets

You forgot the biggest.

Meanwhile, the PM didn't prepare a witness statement for the Supreme Court in the case of a badly timed porogue of Parliament. Needless to say the Remain camp are making an issue of the implications.

All good fun...

I can guarantee she voted to leave

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

It is really becoming quite bizarre

Many have oft said "things could be worse" and they were right.

interesting case,

Supreme Court: Parliament suspended 'to stop MPs frustrating PM', judges told
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49722087

Boris Johnson sought to suspend Parliament to avoid the risk of MPs "frustrating or damaging" his Brexit plans, the Supreme Court has heard.

Lawyers for campaigners challenging the suspension said there was "strong evidence" the PM saw MPs "as an obstacle" and wanted to "silence" them.

But a government lawyer said the PM was "entitled" to suspend Parliament, and it was not a matter for the courts.

The judges are hearing two challenges relating to the five-week prorogation.

Lady Hale, President of the Court, stressed the landmark case would have no bearing on the timing of Brexit.

In her opening statement, the most senior judge in the UK said she and her 10 colleagues would endeavour to address the "serious and difficult questions of law" raised by the case, but would not determine "wider political questions" relating to the Brexit process.

^ Still a couple of days to go yet.

I think they'll side for HMG on a split decision 8-3.

It's legal but bad form...

The Daily Telegraph which is now a wholly owned shill for rightwing Tory carpetbagging xenophobes has Trump's main man in London, the septic ambassador, Woody the Woodsucker, claiming the nasty, vicious and thoroughly underhand attack by the brutish Luxemburgers on BoJo is why the poor oppressed, downtrodden and exploited Brits were right to leave the EU.

Sometimes, when you need to scrape the barrel of utter imbecility you can't do better than get an American to show you how it's done.

Brexit by the Tory trash truly is a disaster that just keeps on giving.

And here's me thinking the Brexshitting loons had the Franco/Krauts as the axis of the evil empire when it was fucking Luxembourg all the time.

Whoudda thunk it, eh?

^ Yeah his UK opposite number ran into turbulence by being honest, so Woody his decided that his nose won't get brown from pecking wood.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Still a couple of days to go yet.

I think they'll side for HMG on a split decision 8-3.

It's legal but bad form...

yep, my expectations too

Barnier is right, as usual

now the silly Brits claim they have a plan but don't want to reveal until the last minute. I smell a Maybot style tactic to negotiate

Brexit: Talks 'should not be a pretence' warns Barnier
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49738897

The UK and EU "should not pretend to be negotiating" a Brexit deal if there are no new proposals on the table, the EU's chief negotiator has said.

Michel Barnier said the UK telling the EU what it does not like about the current agreement was "not enough".

He cast doubt on two ideas put forward by the UK - a single all-Ireland zone for agriculture and livestock and a Northern Irish veto over EU rules.

Boris Johnson has said there is a "landing zone" for an agreement.

He has said a deal is possible at a crucial summit of EU leaders on 17 October - although ministers have said they are reluctant to reveal the details of new proposals in advance for fear they will be "rubbished" by the EU.

1108. Posted by DontMentionTheWar on Just now

Boris Johnson and his ministers are reluctant to reveal the details of new proposals in advance for fear they will be "rubbished" by the EU.

Well doesn't that just inspire confidence in them as we watch time ticking away...

Comment number 1107. Posted by bolzano_weierstrass on Just now
@4

Never vote for a serial liar. I take it you are telling us to never vote then.

Comment number 1106. Posted by Kieran on Just now

1054 Mark
"looks like the only way out for those who want REMAIN lies in the courts facilitating an extension this week"


You are aware that the current court proceedings have absolutely nothing to do with Article 50 and/or the extension beyond Oct 31st that's on its way? You do know that, surely? I mean it's been all over the news!! It is only to do with the reason for proroguing Parliament.

Comment number 1105. Posted by 1957 on Just now

If there is no deal between the UK and the EU there will have to be a hard border while a comprehensive trade deal is neogotiated. Thereas May's deal addressed this by providing a breathing space while this took place. Some version of it will be needed if we are ever to leave.

Comment number 1104. Posted by Nimrod2 on Just now

Brexiters are still expecting a deal.

That is not going to happen now. BJ has been tactically inept, rubbed the EU up the wrong way and they are no longer sure they can trust him.

No wonder the £ is still falling.... So our imports will now be getting more expensive as a result. So our standard of living will be falling with it too....

Well done Brexiters... Jolly well done... NOT!

Comment number 1103. Posted by THE WORLDS FULL OF CLOWNS on Just now

1025.BBC_fan "The instant a no deal Brexit fails from the utter lack of TRUTH from Boris, CUT OFF Nigel Paul Farage's MEP pension. As the UK is refusing to pay its fair share of their EU debts.
That might get Mr. toad faced Nigel Paul Farage's attention"

Sad he will get a big pension and a large payout if we leave which is why he at to get re-elected has MEP conman helped by Bojo the liar

Comment number 1102. Posted by Springfowl on Just now
@941 Andy Mountains

European Army

It's being debated currently, Macron asked again last year for it as did Merkel and it's been regularly pushed/requested.

One link for it (independent link)

https://www.theweek.co.uk/97636/emma...ence-coalition

While conscription is likely rubbish, wouldn't be surprised to see an EU army in the next 10 years.

What a repulsive woman...