Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

So just how high a priority do you set on tackling these imagined problems plaguing the world?

Seems you're creating quite a gust yourself.

you're not making yourself very clear, so why dont you take drbobs cock out of your mouth before speaking.

Thank you very much for that, Afzal.

is afzalgate now the new sausagegate. give it a rest.

.... and you can talk.

you are a true blue tory if ever there was one, ex civil servant, swollen redundancy, juicy pension, tax free junkets and a gravy train railpass, budleigh salterton bolt hole, trolling as a conscious stricken leftie whilst giving it "coon" this, "chickenhead" that and blue collar scum everything else and regurgitating guardian opinion pieces whilst wet dreaming teresa mays nipples sliding silkily across your wrinkled dried up scrotum.

jeesus h, what on earth is this forum coming to.

Originally Posted by taxexile

is afzalgate now the new sausagegate. give it a rest.

Originally Posted by taxexile

jeesus h, what on earth is this forum coming to.

Its senses, I hope.

Fine entertainment in this thread. By far the top candidate for Famous status on the forum. Keep it up guys. Har, har, har.

Originally Posted by Norton

Fine entertainment in this thread. By far the top candidate for Famous status on the forum. Keep it up guys. Har, har, har.

Funny as fook ain't it ��

According to Lord Adonis , Doris is nought but The kippers mouthpiece

^ Lord Adonis's resignation letter is a rant worthy of a post in itself....One wonders if thegent helped in its creation.

Dear Prime Minister,


The hardest thing in politics is to bring about lasting change for the better, and I believe in co-operation across parties to achieve it.


In this spirit I was glad to accept reappointment last year as Chair of the independent National Infrastructure Commission, when you also reaffirmed your support for HS2, which will help overcome England’s north-south divide when it opens in just eight years time. I would like to thank you for your courtesy in our personal dealings.


The Commission has done good work in the past 27 months, thanks to dedicated public servants and commissioners. Sir John Armitt, my deputy chair, and Phil Graham, chief executive, have been brilliant throughout.


I am particularly proud of our plans for equipping the UK with world-class 4G and 5G mobile systems; for Crossrail 2 in London and HS3 to link the Northern cities; and for transformational housing growth in the Oxford-Milton Keynes-Cambridge corridor.


I hope these plans are implemented without delay. However, my work at the Commission has become increasingly clouded by disagreement with the Government, and after much consideration I am writing to resign because of fundamental differences which simply cannot be bridged.


The European Union Withdrawal Bill is the worst legislation of my lifetime. It arrives soon in the House of Lords and I feel duty bound to oppose it relentlessly from the Labour benches.


Brexit is a populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Donald Trump.


After the narrow referendum vote, a form of associate membership of the EU might have been attempted without rupturing Britain’s key trading and political alliances.


Instead, by allying with UKIP and the Tory hard right to wrench Britain out of the key economic and political institutions of modern Europe, you are pursuing a course fraught with danger.


Even within Ireland, there are set to be barriers between people and trade.


If Brexit happens, taking us back into Europe will become the mission of our children’s generation, who will marvel at your acts of destruction.


A responsible government would be leading the British people to stay in Europe while also tackling, with massive vigour, the social and economic problems within Britain which contributed to the Brexit vote. Unfortunately, your policy is the reverse.


The Government is hurtling towards the EU’s emergency exit with no credible plan for the future of British trade and European co-operation, all the while ignoring – beyond soundbites and inadequate programmes – the crises of housing, education, the NHS, and social and regional inequality which are undermining the fabric of our nation and feeding a populist surge.


What Britain needs in 2018 is a radically reforming government in the tradition of Attlee, working tirelessly to eradicate social problems while strengthening Britain’s international alliances.

This is a cause I have long advocated, and acted upon in government, and I intend to pursue it with all the energy I can muster.


Britain must be deeply engaged, responsible and consistent as a European power. When in times past we have isolated ourselves from the Continent in the name of ’empire’ or ‘sovereignty,’ we were soon sucked back in.


This will inevitably happen again, given our power, trade, democratic values and sheer geography. Putin and the rise of authoritarian nationalism in Poland and Hungry are flashing red lights.


As Edmund Burke so wisely wrote, ‘people will not look forwards to posterity who do not look backwards to their ancestors.’


However, I would have been obliged to resign from the Commission at this point anyway because of the Transport Secretary’s indefensible decision to bail-out the Stagecoach/Virgin East Coast rail franchise.


The bailout will cost taxpayers hundreds of millions of pounds, possibly billions if other loss-making rail companies demand equal treatment.


It benefits only the billionaire owners of these companies and their shareholders, while pushing rail fares still higher and threatening national infrastructure investment. It is even more inexcusable given the Brexit squeeze on public spending.


The only rationale I can discern for the bailout is as a cynical political manoeuvre by Chris Grayling, a hard right Brexiteer, to avoid following my 2009 precedent when National Express defaulted on its obligations to the state for the same East Coast franchise because it too had overbid for the contract.


I set up a successful public operator to take over East Coast services and banned National Express from bidding for new contracts.


The same should have been done in this case. Yet, astonishingly, Stagecoach has not only been bailed out: it remains on the shortlist for the next three rail franchises.


The East Coast affair will inevitably come under close scrutiny by the National Audit Office and the Public Accounts Committee, and I need to be free to set out serious public interest concerns. I hope the PAC calls Sir Richard Branson and Sir Brian Souter to give evidence.


I am ready to share troubling evidence with the PAC and other parliamentary committees investigating the bailout.


As you know, I raised these concerns with the Chancellor and the Transport Secretary as soon as the bailout became apparent from the small print of an odd policy statement on 29 November majoring on reversing Beeching rail closures of the 1960s. I received no response from either Minister beyond inappropriate requests to desist.


Brexit is causing a nervous breakdown across Whitehall and conduct unworthy of Her Majesty’s Government. I am told, by those of longer experience, that it resembles Suez and the bitter industrial strife of the 1970s, both of which endangered not only national integrity but the authority of the state itself.


You occupy one of the most powerful offices in the history of the world, the heir of Churchill, Attlee and Gladstone. Whatever our differences, I wish you well in guiding our national destiny at this critical time.


Yours sincerely,
Andrew Adonis


Bailing out private Rail companies shouldn't be lost in the furor of Brexit though.

Yeah, let the taxpayers help out poor Richard Branson just like they did the bankers.

Never give a sucker an even break.

He's heavily invested in health now too...I suppose he'll get more cash to shovel over to his tax havens if that goes wrong too.

Still, Adonis came up with the brainwave of student loans, so his hands are not clean.

I see the £ ended 2017 higher than it began it. How's that parity with the $ looking SeekingAss?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

I see the £ ended 2017 higher than it began it. How's that parity with the $ looking SeekingAss?

Fk me, you're stupid!

£ was higher on 31/12/17 than it was on 01/01/17.

Which pathetic excuse for a mod keeps deleting my innocuous posts yet allows others to remain. Get a life You Sad sack of shit.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

innocuous

Originally Posted by buriramboy

You Sad sack of shit

Originally Posted by buriramboy

£ was higher on 31/12/17 than it was on 01/01/17.

You do realise the $ dropped 13% against the € in 2017 don't you? Hardly the best currency to use for making comparisons.

The £ is still 17% below where it was before the referendum reared its ugly head...

Oh c'mon ... let basherboy clutch at the straw of sa's prediction not coming true.

Originally Posted by Troy

You do realise the $ dropped 13% against the € in 2017 don't you? Hardly the best currency to use for making comparisons.

The £ is still 17% below where it was before the referendum reared its ugly head...

You do realise the £ ended 2017 higher against the $ than it started which was my only point right? Now obviously SeekingAss got this parity crap from Goldman Sachs as they were the only ones predicting it for 2017 probably in a loony Guardian article.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/1...pecially-food/

Brexit at any cost even if it means increased poverty! Will be very interesting to see how the lack of subsidies from the EU negatively effect our farmers. Brexiteers in places such as Sunderland seem to be unaware or forgetful that the EU gave huge grants to invest in the city. Same story in Norwich, it paid for a better library, the survival of a community theater and a some smaller museums being able to stay open. All things that make England, England and now their future looks cloudy. Not exactly taking our country back.

I live close to the Norfolk Broads in the UK- an area where EU grants have been vital to upkeep and preservation while keeping the flood waters away. Hope the locals like flooding.

Originally Posted by Troy

You do realise the $ dropped 13% against the € in 2017 don't you? Hardly the best currency to use for making comparisons.

The £ is still 17% below where it was before the referendum reared its ugly head...

£ was around 53-54 when I left Thailand for UK on referendum day, next day was around 45 and been dawdling below that ever since.

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2017/1...pecially-food/

Brexit at any cost even if it means increased poverty! Will be very interesting to see how the lack of subsidies from the EU negatively effect our farmers. Brexiteers in places such as Sunderland seem to be unaware or forgetful that the EU gave huge grants to invest in the city. Same story in Norwich, it paid for a better library, the survival of a community theater and a some smaller museums being able to stay open. All things that make England, England and now their future looks cloudy. Not exactly taking our country back.

I live close to the Norfolk Broads in the UK- an area where EU grants have been vital to upkeep and preservation while keeping the flood waters away. Hope the locals like flooding.

LOL, it's our money that the EU were so kind to return a small part of to invest in shitholes like Sunderland. Same with farmers subsidies which if you stopped reading left wing rags would know that Dorris has guaranteed to farmers the same amount of loot they are receiving now till 2024.

^ Do you have a link to that promise buriramboy? I wasn't aware of any concrete promises to UK farmers following brexit.

I have heard Gove musing over some changes to how money is calculated with his beloved meadows but nothing concrete there either.

It would appear that Gove has as much knowledge about farming as he does about economics; one hopes he doesn't suggest we ignore all the experts in this field as well.

Gove is an intelligent man and should have been allowed to carry on with his much needed education reforms a while back. But sadly can't get anything done in the UK fighting militant unions who don't want their easy ride disrupted. Lost respect for him though for fucking over Boris and thus leaving us ending up with Dorris as PM.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

LOL, it's our money that the EU were so kind to return a small part of to invest in shitholes like Sunderland. Same with farmers subsidies which if you stopped reading left wing rags would know that Dorris has guaranteed to farmers the same amount of loot they are receiving now till 2024.

what you fail to understand is that the EU was better utilizing your money for your own projects than your cunning and corrupt politicians, that's the whole point of having the EU managing ambitious projects from local governments

when this is gone, your silly politicians will simply take that money and spend it on silly stupid shit for themselves,

you fookers owned, UK corrupt politicians win