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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    REMAIN is out of question, they must leave, everyone is waiting for it so the EU can finally progress
    Who is “everyone” and what are your sources?
    Opinion is fine, provided you don’t dress it up as facts like you usually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Parliament wont back her deal and there wont be a new deal, parliament also wont back a no-deal crashout.
    So it will in the end be a choice between ref2 or remain.
    I have just posted information explaining why a second referendum is highly unlikely. Clinging to the idea is as pointless as a butterfly post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Opinion is fine, provided you don’t dress it up as facts like you usually do.
    Pot, kettle Chas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    England is not the center of the world and it is soon going to find this out. As if China or the USA will give us a trade deal that works for us. Being in the EU would protect us from these two predatory countries.
    There is a very good reason why the leading economies of this world include the UK. Dismiss their place at the top table if you wish, but don’t even attempt to deny their very important role in influencing other leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Pot, kettle Chas.
    Compare my posts with the dilatory insect and you will quickly see the difference.

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    This and the Trump thread are a bit like having two Pavlov's Dogs each with a buzzer to ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    England is not the center of the world and it is soon going to find this out. As if China or the USA will give us a trade deal that works for us. Being in the EU would protect us from these two predatory countries.
    logic, please stop using it when addressing Brexiters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Who is “everyone” and what are your sources?
    Opinion is fine, provided you don’t dress it up as facts like you usually do.
    everyone that matters, obviously not you, even though you agree with everyone that the UK should fuck off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    REMAIN is out of question, they must leave, everyone is waiting for it so the EU can finally progress
    Naw, everyone of importance in th EU wants a 2nd referendum which appears currently will be a vote to remain. May's "deal" is DOA and the EU will do nothing to help fix it. Her only option is to run through the time consuming process of holding another referendum. Parliament will support it and the EU will gladly extend the drop dead date both figuring the vote will be remain. Win/win for both with the only price being several million butthurt Brexiters

    My money remains on a 2nd referendum.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    https://amp.theguardian.com/politics...lly-impossible
    Tory MP plans to scupper possibility of no deal Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Naw, everyone of importance in th EU wants a 2nd referendum which appears currently will be a vote to remain. May's "deal" is DOA and the EU will do nothing to help fix it. Her only option is to run through the time consuming process of holding another referendum. Parliament will support it and the EU will gladly extend the drop dead date both figuring the vote will be remain. Win/win for both with the only price being several million butthurt Brexiters

    My money remains on a 2nd referendum.
    Doris will have to resign before a second referendum so that's one positive. She still genuinely believes mps are going to vote for her deal out of fear of a clean Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    everyone that matters, obviously not you, even though you agree with everyone that the UK should fuck off
    You can’t even get simple stuff right. I support leaving the crippled and profligate union that has control freakery at the centre of everything it does.
    The last thing UK needs is being directed by broken fools like you, and those you claim to support.

    For the benefit of any reader who does not understand the intricacies of a second referendum. It will never happen. There is neither the time nor the support for it. Even if it were, by some miracle to happen, the result is by no means a foregone conclusion, and any result would lead to greater confusion and further instability.
    with less than 10 weeks to go, the timescale for a credible referendum has now passed.

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    forget about REF2, let's focus on hard brexit, and prepaparing for it

    it's going to be 4th July and Bastille day at the same time, a lot of fireworks and happy people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Naw, everyone of importance in th EU wants a 2nd referendum which appears currently will be a vote to remain. May's "deal" is DOA and the EU will do nothing to help fix it. Her only option is to run through the time consuming process of holding another referendum. Parliament will support it and the EU will gladly extend the drop dead date both figuring the vote will be remain. Win/win for both with the only price being several million butthurt Brexiters

    My money remains on a 2nd referendum.
    could have been true a few weeks ago or maybe the next day after the vote defeat as some kind of defiance, but now?

    REMAINS not possible, so it's either join the Common Market or fuck off for good

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    Who Posted?

    Total Posts 6,514
    Dragonfly: Posts 1,262

    Highest number of posts in this thread. More than double everyone else except for BB. Give DF a few more days and I'm sure he'll remedy that. He might even say something new or interesting.







    * Just kidding on the last part.

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    It's amazing that with such a golden opportunity to wind people up that he falls so pitifully short.

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    ^^ My post seems to have annoyed the little Belgian delicacy. He sent me a red. Ooh la la.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    He sent me a red.
    Let me guess...the message was something about sucking cocks?


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    No, it was rather more prosaic than that. Almost British yoof in its simplicity; "fuck off Brexitshitter"

    But he added a smilie to sweeten the message.

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    Jolly good news chaps- the empire in returning! This is distinctly unlikely, I can't think of one fallen empire than managed to return to full power. Okay, I lie- the Klingons did a fantastic job.

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    What is it with remoaners and empires? No one who supports Brexit wants to go round invading countries and warmongering, that's your liberal elite people like Blair who funnily enough is a remoaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Jolly good news chaps- the empire in returning!


    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    that's your liberal elite people like Blair who funnily enough is a remoaner.
    Another brainwashed lemming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post




    Another brainwashed lemming.
    You really are to stupid for words. A multi million $ property empire yet spends every night alone in mommy basement drinking himself into a coma. You couldn't lie straight in bed.

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    2017 - Liam Fox. Conservative Party, Secretary of State for International Trade and President of the Board of Trade:

    "We're going to replicate the 40 EU free trade agreements that exist before we leave the European Union so we've got no disruption of trade,"

    "I hear people saying 'oh we won't have any [free trade agreements] before we leave'. Well, believe me, we'll have up to 40 ready for one second after midnight in March 2019," he told cheering Conservative activists.

    The Trade Secretary added that "All these faint hearts saying we cannot do it — it's absolute rubbish."

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    I think it is very, very important to be clear about a no deal. No deal isn't like buying something.


    It isn't like going to a shop and if you don't find anything you don't like you walk home again. You don't end up back where you started.


    No deal with the European Union means all the laws that govern our interaction with the EU, whether you can fly, whether you can trade,
    whether you can shop, whether you can travel, cease to exist.


    I don't know what people voted for when they voted to leave, they voted for lots of different reasons and they were told by the leave campaign that a deal would be easy and I don't believe all of them voted for no deal.

    If you think no deal is fine, that's great but be aware of what it means. It means severe disruption and, from the EU's point of view, you are absolutely right, a no deal will hurt the Europeans in Calais, in Belgium, in Amsterdam.

    One of the reasons the EU has remained united is that some member states don't trade with us so they've got better things to worry about but no deal will hit us far worse than it will hit them.
    Anand Menon, the director of the Brexit thinktank UK in a Changing EU during BBC Question Time

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    No-deal isn't a viable option, as many keep saying. It is not even a bargaining chip. It is nothing but an empty threat that would leave everyone that is anyone fooked.

    No-deal fits only for the loons and swivel-eyed.

    The only sensible decision is to remain in the EU. Now all the politicians need to do is their job by explaining this to the electorate in simple terms.

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