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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    The deal needs to be changed - but not outright, just enough to make it acceptable to enough MPs to get it through parliament.
    You realise the level of rejection was unprecedented, right?

    That makes it nigh on impossible to resuscitate.

    It almost certainly leaves either an extension of A50 or crashing out as the last two alternatives.

    May has said she thinks the former option preferable, so at least she hasn't lost her marbles completely.

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    Ze Germans are making direct calls to Downing Street, EU bank rollers worried.....Meanwhile the sainted Macron bans high viz vests

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You realise the level of rejection was unprecedented, right?

    That makes it nigh on impossible to resuscitate.

    It almost certainly leaves either an extension of A50 or crashing out as the last two alternatives.

    May has said she thinks the former option preferable, so at least she hasn't lost her marbles completely.
    sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Ze Germans are making direct calls to Downing Street, EU bank rollers worried.....Meanwhile the sainted Macron bans high viz vests
    lame as usual, fuck off back to NTD with Smeg

    which one are you this week? sounds a lot like that silly nutter of DJ pat

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    There is a mandate for clean Brexit, mps voted overwhelmingly to trigger A50 which is perfectly clear as in we leave after 2 years with or without a deal. They all knowingly voted for a clean Brexit if a deal couldn't be agreed.

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    ^^Maybe one day I can scale the heights of those last two posts with my input, eh buttplug?


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    The UK need to drop the Maybot red lines and rethink freedom of movement and payment to the EU. If they kept the freedom of goods and services, they could change the rules on free movement within the guidelines of the EU. That is limit time in country for visits to 1 month and stamp people out as well as in to keep control. Workers will need a confirmed job with employer's letter and have it renewed every year. Health insurance for workers must be compulsory as is a permanent address within 3 months. Such limitations would not deter the professionals.
    The offer to increase yearly payments to allow such restrictions would be easily affordable, such as giving the rebate back to regain confidence and faith in the UK.

    The UK has already opted out of further political integration and the Euro so they are non issues.

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    Buttfly, you have been posting up the same repetitive bollocks for the last two years and now you're obsessing over another forum and your former friend - sounds like hurt to me.

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    And he sits in judgement on the quality of others contributions.



    It's a pity so many of Belgium's public toilets seem to have wifi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^Maybe one day I can scale the heights of those last two posts with my input, eh buttplug?


    That's right Cy you tell the little Algerio Belgian, help him out, offer to prece his posts for him first too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You realise the level of rejection was unprecedented, right?

    That makes it nigh on impossible to resuscitate.
    The level of rejection by MPs does not indicate how much of the deal is unacceptable to them. Even Boris Johnson, who said that he thinks the deal is now dead, said that some of it is good and should be kept, so the PM needs to find out exactly what needs to be changed in order to make it acceptable enough to enough MPs.

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    Well, wtf to do about Ireland is at the top of the list, surely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Well, wtf to do about Ireland is at the top of the list, surely.
    Yes, NI and the border issue are vital, fer sure fer sure.

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    The Ireland issue like most of the thorny points ain't insurmountable, just we made them appear that way with the weak stance over the past two years. Where there's a will and all that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    you are the typical delusional Brexiter,

    the Maybot deal is at the very end of a very long negotiation, there is no coming back to it, all the essential matters have been discussed and approved by the EU parliament, there will not be another vote by the EU parliament, this is it

    there might be minor things to clarify, but that's not questioning the fundamentals of the deal. The UK parliament rejected the fundamentals of the deal, what's left to discuss? nothing

    if the UK parliament can't make the right decision, it's about time you go to REF2
    Why is a no mark, irrelevant wog taking part in this discussion? Nothing you say makes any sense because all your comments are delivered with unbridled malice.
    Time for you to disappear and leave the grown ups to discuss it. And take your little poodle Foolbar with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    The level of rejection by MPs does not indicate how much of the deal is unacceptable to them.
    On the contrary, the level of rejection by MPs indicates quite clearly how much of the deal is unacceptable to them.

    For eg, if a lot of the MPs who rejected the deal were 50/50 on the content then the result would have been much closer and not the unprecedented level of rejection that we saw.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Even Boris Johnson, who said that he thinks the deal is now dead, said that some of it is good and should be kept, so the PM needs to find out exactly what needs to be changed in order to make it acceptable enough to enough MPs.
    Normally it's warning flag when someone starts to quote BJ to substantiate their point..but lets go with it.

    If, in your opinion there is much good in this deal and it only needs a few creases ironed out to make it acceptable to pass a vote ...can you explain why this simple ironing wasn't carried out during the last few weeks when the vote was delayed and/or even with the vote delay the deal still saw an unprecedented level of rejection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Why is a no mark, irrelevant wog taking part in this discussion?
    You are like the poster boy for the notion that Brexiteers are just stupid racists...

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    ^^Yeah, it's pretty much a total bust when something's rejected on this scale.

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    The backstop issue is what makes the deal toxic for many, while that's not all that's wrong with the deal it is the deal breaker for many. If the EU weren't such boneheads on the issue and hadn't used Ireland as their pawn to extract concessions that were never going to be acceptable then Doris would probably have got her deal through.

    Will the EU agree to scrap the backstop, unlikely but only way Doris deal is ever going to get through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Buttfly, you have been posting up the same repetitive bollocks for the last two years and now you're obsessing over another forum and your former friend - sounds like hurt to me.
    your former friend on NTD? hello, earth

    like I say, Smeg is waiting for you to report back

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    There is a mandate for clean Brexit, mps voted overwhelmingly to trigger A50 which is perfectly clear as in we leave after 2 years with or without a deal. They all knowingly voted for a clean Brexit if a deal couldn't be agreed.
    A50 is not about a clean Brexit, it's an exit arrangement pending a negotiated deal

    only in your alternate reality you took this as a hard Brexit,

    now, why did Maybot invoked A50 unprepared, that's another issue, a mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Why is a no mark, irrelevant wog taking part in this discussion? Nothing you say makes any sense because all your comments are delivered with unbridled malice.
    Time for you to disappear and leave the grown ups to discuss it. And take your little poodle Foolbar with you.
    must have stroke a nerve in your little alternate reality

    seriously, have you considered checkin in a mental institution? if not, maybe you should

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    New legislation, put by the government/PM, is required to stop Brexit on the 29th March.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    A50 is not about a clean Brexit, it's an exit arrangement pending a negotiated deal

    only in your alternate reality you took this as a hard Brexit,

    now, why did Maybot invoked A50 unprepared, that's another issue, a mistake
    It's written in clear English you leave after 2 years, if haven't negotiated a deal within those 2 years then you leave without a deal. Everyone was clear on this and knew what they were voting for, there is no room for misunderstanding. They all voted for a clean Brexit if a deal couldn't be reached.

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