Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

and still didn't get it why they lost

Spoiler Alert!

The stiff upper lip was breached by piccaninnies flashing their watermelon smiles and making choo choo noises.

Originally Posted by foobar

95% of Brexiteers have seen Zulu more than 3 times.

I'm one of those. A truly great film.

Originally Posted by cyrille

And white French 'values'?

They're only different because they demand inverted commas.

truely intellectually and culturally ignorant,

The "Siecle des Lumieres" values clearly put to shame your degenerate Anglo values, showing the true colors of your values as a tool for insecure leaders to "maintain" their people hope

While the French ideals was to put everything upside down, leaders being "maintained" by the people, as it should be

that's why a revolution in your country is not possible, you were raised as sheep, and your culture, like for the Thai peasants, is to respect your existing social structure and never question it

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

The "Siecle des Lumieres"

Isn't that some sort of trapeze act?

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

French ideals

A reader's oxymoron.

like I said, English pig with no intellectual sense

You are basically a younger version of Chass,

and we shall call you Chassamui 2.0

The truth is pretty much everyone finds the French either contemptible or irrelevant.

And you may or may not be an even more irrelevant Belgian attempting to seem French.

Does anyone actually know or care?

It's just two different types of vanilla anyway.

Chass 2.0, stop being you stupid self for once, you are irrelevant, we all are, that's not the point

the point is that you English fookers are collectively irrelevant, and Brexit is proving it

the faster you fook off and collapse, the better it is for the EU and for the rest of the world

Originally Posted by Troy

Now, now... remember the Queen's speech

That was me being kind In the face of severe provocation.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

with so many contradictions, how do you sleep at night?

hard Brexit is realism and cooperation?

you guys are hilarious

Developing ideas to deal with spiteful intransigence and stupidity is now a contradiction is it?
I call it improvisation and adaptation. It’s essential when bitter cvnts like you keep moving the goalposts. lol

Originally Posted by cyrille

You really haven't got a fuckin clue have you.

Hes had many whoosh moments over this. His deliberate lack of understanding is aimed at provocation, unless of course, he’s just really stupid and ignorant, the same way he is with IT, economics and everything else.

Difficult to believe that one person could be quite so vacuous and ignorant, with that span of drunken posts.

Like I said such tomfoolery is best ignored.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

and still didn't get it why they lost

You are little Napoleon 2.0 another French leg end destined to failure and decline. No matter how many times you try to build an empire, it always ends in catastrophic failure. Just like Eutopia will this time around.

Just like all the French and Belgian empire builders, you never listen and you never learn. Hahahaha

Originally Posted by Switch

His deliberate lack of understanding is aimed at provocation

It's all he's ever sought here.

Calling it a 'deliberate lack of understanding' is a bit too complimentary though.

He's just an utterly pointlesss attention seeking pooftah.

What's with it with Brexiteers and self-pity?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...sh-nationalism
It's been the ultimate exercise in victim card playing

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

What's with it with Brexiteers and self-pity?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...sh-nationalism
It's been the ultimate exercise in victim card playing

Thought all you Corbynistas were boycotting the Guardian?

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

What's with it with Brexiteers and self-pity?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...sh-nationalism
It's been the ultimate exercise in victim card playing

An Irish fool who slept through devolution, and he’s got that victim of the potato famine culture drilled into him hasn’t he?

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Thought all you Corbynistas were boycotting the Guardian?

I can't stand the man and his anti-EU grandstanding. A forward-thinking liberal rather than some dinosaur peacocking about parliament would be very, very welcome

The vote question, and the answer was really quite simple.

Leave or Remain.

Leave won.

If there were any doubts about the question or the electorates ability to understand it, and the ensuing complexity, the time for a second referendum was then.
To say now, that the question was too complex and easily misunderstood, is just sour grapes.

I maintain that, despite May’s attempt to hide the answers and to bully parliament with project fear, both parliament and the electorate are much better informed than they were.
The arrogance of the EU and the deal that May is still trying to force through is now totally transparent.
If anything, the Brexit posture has been hardened by such transparency and cast doubts among the remain club.

No need for a second referendum just leave and have a general election to elect an honest government with some backbone.

Originally Posted by Switch

The vote question, and the answer was really quite simple.

Leave or Remain.

Leave won.

Will you ever stop re-stating this?

Do you think it's informative?

Originally Posted by Switch

You are little Napoleon 2.0 another French leg end destined to failure and decline. No matter how many times you try to build an empire, it always ends in catastrophic failure. Just like Eutopia will this time around.

Just like all the French and Belgian empire builders, you never listen and you never learn. Hahahaha

right because the British empire is doing so well at the moment

Originally Posted by Switch

Developing ideas to deal with spiteful intransigence and stupidity is now a contradiction is it?
I call it improvisation and adaptation. It’s essential when bitter cvnts like you keep moving the goalposts. lol

you are clearly not living on the same planet, putting everything upside down, in true British style

you people failed to make your case for Brexit, creating problems along the way, refusing to pay your dues, and acting like an old Pensioner in a pool of piss waiting for his next diaper change to be served by Juncker himself

your arrogance and ridicule posture know no bound, yet you are the laughing stock of Europe

you people need a good slap in the face, and I hope Juncker will deliver himself

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

What's with it with Brexiteers and self-pity?
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...sh-nationalism
It's been the ultimate exercise in victim card playing

You also write about the long English tradition of clinging romantically to heroic defeat. What do you ascribe this to?

George Orwell wrote about this in the early 1940s. He said that it was extraordinary that if you think about the poems that English schoolkids will know, they’re all about defeats or retreats or disasters. It’s Scott of the Antarctic, it’s the Charge of the Light Brigade, it’s Gordon of Khartoum. That tradition of heroic failure was great when you were ruling the world as it was a way of saying we’re not really a nasty imperial power. But in a post-imperial age you get a farcical version. Because originally the thing that characterised heroic failure in the English imagination was not self-pity, but Brexit is full of hysterical self-pity.

What’s going to happen now?

I’m increasingly convinced that there will be a second referendum. The Sherlock Holmes principle is always a good one: you eliminate the impossible and whatever remains, however improbable, must be the solution. The second referendum has always been highly improbable but everything else is looking impossible. There’s just no deal that the Europeans can do that can get through the House of Commons. And no deal is so catastrophic that you have to hope that no sane parliament would allow it. So the one thing left is a second referendum.

Originally Posted by Switch

...the answer was really quite simple.

Originally Posted by Senior Brexiteer minister Liam Fox

There is a 50-50 chance the UK will not leave the EU on 29 March if MPs reject Theresa May's Brexit deal next month.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46713498

......

Originally Posted by Switch

The vote question, and the answer was really quite simple.

Leave or Remain.

Leave won.

If there were any doubts about the question or the electorates ability to understand it, and the ensuing complexity, the time for a second referendum was then.
To say now, that the question was too complex and easily misunderstood, is just sour grapes

The referendum was not a football match and shouldn't be likened to one. It was a gauge of public opinion. It showed that opinion to be divided. It didn't warrant a full scale plan to leave the EU and Article 50 was invoked a little too quickly, certainly before the UK had agreed the best way forward.

Since the referendum, the country has been in limbo and still doesn't really know what the best way forward is. The idea that "brexit means brexit" or "taking back control" means anything other than silly clichés will be haunting the PM all the way to a second referendum. It is the only way to break the current impasse, without going back on the promise to the electorate. The problem is what question to put, it can't be the May agreement if it is voted down in parliament, it can't be a no-deal brexit if there is an amendment to remove this option from the drawing board. It will simply have to be: "Do you want to stay in the EU?"; Yes or Yes? The electorate should be able to answer that question correctly.