Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

so now your only justification to leave the EU is based on a hint that it could crash in 50 years time?

Your 'hint' is my stunningly obvious.

To my dog: did he say 50 years?

jabir, it's clear that you are crazy and you didn't finish school

at least Tax see the writing on the wall, and accept the Maybot deal, he knows the UK is fooked and in a hard corner, and you can't do anything about it

you are still barking like there is an option for something else

Don't worry...he'll backtrack again and start whimpering about how remaining might be better tomorrow.

He sees cataclysm everywhere.

At least he's not pretending he's Claude Juncker this time.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

The EU can never be reformed - ever. It has been on the same trajectory since decades before inception. Complete federalisation and then join up with all the other blocks being forged together. Reform it? You're as funny in your denial as that Safe Space dweller Missmod.

Ditto, it can never be reformed; the key governing and legislative positions are appointed, not elected, and by design, and once something becomes European Law supported by its own courts, there's nothing voters can do to change it.

This is why we see discontent in several member states, which will grow with increasing EU control of sovereign law, rights and jurisdiction, and why the UK will not be the last country to leave; I should add if we're allowed to, which sums up the monster.

And how long before the gods propose progressive dismantling of individual budgets toward the goal of a centralised EU budget? That is as much a "dangerous fantasy" as Clegg's claim about the EU army.

what would be wrong in a centralized EU budget? it's already the case on paper, where each state annual deficit is being watched over by the EU, so budget control is required by the EU

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

what would be wrong in a centralized EU budget? it's already the case on paper, where each state annual deficit is being watched over by the EU, so budget control is required by the EU

Great...going well, innit!

at least Tax see the writing on the wall, and accept the Maybot deal, he knows the UK is fooked and in a hard corner, and you can't do anything about it

the deal is a foot in the door, a face saver for the pompous eu, a compromise for the uk that both leavers and remainers would do well to accept, and a way forward to a more complete exit over the next few years as trade deals are hammered out, and the uk position will get stronger and stronger, as the fracture lines hitting the eu increase.

Originally Posted by taxexile

the deal is a foot in the door, a face saver for the pompous eu, a compromise for the uk that both leavers and remainers would do well to accept, and a way forward to a more complete exit over the next few years as trade deals are hammered out, and the uk position will get stronger and stronger, as the fracture lines hitting the eu increase.

That's an optimistic and plausible argument doing the rounds as we near the vote, from fear of a no-deal which appears to be the worst case scenario. But using that argument implies that we were brutally scammed by our leaders, nothing new there, so stiff upper lip and let's go with it because that light at the end of the tunnel might not after all be an express train.

But with no guarantees of fair play, it's reckless to give those you know want you to fail the legal instruments with which to do it. And it's no consolation to suppose European industry would also suffer, since they don't mind a blooded nose if we're writhing on the ground begging for a morsel. The bad boy must be ignored or punished; when France, Denmark, the Netherlands and Ireland voted 'the wrong way' they were ignored; Brexit couldn't be ignored and deserves to be thoroughly chastised.

They're playing for keeps; the vision of a successful trading block has evolved into a political, economic, military and social agenda steering Europe on a path chosen by unelected bureaucrats with insane levels of authority, and they won't be feeling sorry for whatever happens to those that threaten it.

A comment on a previous post concerning the string of illegal bailouts for Greece, and soon to be Italy; the EU handed over the biggest ever loan in the history of capitalism to the most bankrupt country in Europe, never expecting it to be repaid. Sounds like sheer lunacy by any rational fiscal standards, but in their bigger picture it's worth that and more for a grip on the throat of the poorer members.

the future of EU is not your concern anymore, focus on Brexit and how to go hard Brexit once this soft Brexit is done

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the future of EU is not your concern anymore, focus on Brexit and how to go hard Brexit once this soft Brexit is done

Well actually you are wrong. The EU, along with their employee Theresa May are working very hard to keep the UK in the EU. That should be of great concern to you.

One piece of news that will come as a relief to some. Brexit will not stop us playing the EuroMillions lottery.



A Camelot spokesperson said: "EuroMillions currently operates across nine European countries and EU membership is not a requirement – for example, EuroMillions operates in Switzerland (a non-EU country).

"The EuroMillions agreement is between the lottery operators in the nine countries – not the governments. Camelot is one of the founding members of EuroMillions, along with the French and Spanish lottery operators.

It won't make up for the lacking EU support funds for the downtrodden Brexiteer regions in the UK.

Oh, I almost forgot: the Brit gov is going to pick up the bills, the Brexiteers hope...

The first 9 minutes of this video has 5 different positions/options on what to do with Brexit (or not) from here on.

And the chancellor's opinion is clearly 'throw it in the bin', but he can't afford to say so...

Chancellor says UK will be worse off under all Brexit scenarios

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...philip-hammond

Maybot is refusing to release the legal detail on the Remain Deal to MPs, so the 580 page document was nothing more than a sleight of hand stage prop.

Looking forward to my trip back to the UK tomorrow.

Dad, being a Brexiteer, can't remember which week I'm coming to see him let alone which day...and still thinks I've been tasked with assassinating half the Tory MPs to help the EU with getting a settlement.

It'll turn into a right mud-slinger before the night's out and all because the UKIP threatened to get a couple of seats in parliament...

Originally Posted by Troy

.... all because the UKIP threatened to get a couple of seats in parliament...

Highly doubtful, considering even Farage failed to win his own seat last time round.

Now they've brought the convicted Fraudster and thug Tommy Robinson on as an advisor they've lost any credibility( which they never really had in the first place ), even Farage was outraged lol

nice video debate, nice to see little England speak

jesus, the women in your country, no wonder you are all frigging gay

the old hag sounded like Tax and Jabir

a small price to pay to go hard brexit

Bank warns no-deal could see UK sink into recession
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46377309

A no-deal Brexit could send the pound plunging and trigger a worse recession than the financial crisis, the Bank of England has warned.

It said the UK economy could shrink by 8% in the immediate aftermath if there was no transition period, while house prices could fall by almost a third.

The Bank of England also warned the pound could fall by a quarter.

Scenarios drawn up by the Bank of England show that GDP would fall by 8% in 2019 against its current forecast.

Growth would quickly resume and the economy would expand again by the end of 2023 but be smaller than where it was before.

Unemployment would rise to 7.5%, house prices fall by 30% and commercial property prices collapse by 48%.

Interest rates would reach 4%.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Scenarios drawn up by the Bank of England show that GDP would fall by 8% in 2019 against its current forecast.

Growth would quickly resume and the economy would expand again by the end of 2023 but be smaller than where it was before.

Unemployment would rise to 7.5%, house prices fall by 30% and commercial property prices collapse by 48%.

Interest rates would reach 4%.

I watched the interview this morning with Mark Carney. You keep writing he said 'would' when he in fact said 'could or possibly'.

It's cnuts like these that will cause problems come B-Day.

With a no-deal Brexitlooking more likely by the day, one family has stockpiled a glut of ‘essential’ items– including tea bags and Marmite – that will last for months.
Concerned about Britain’s exit from the EU, Nevine Mann, 36, and her husband Richard, 37, said they have been buying extra food and medicine each time they go shopping.
They have stockpiled chickpeas, kidney beans, tuna, pasta, rice, couscous, chopped tomatoes, sterilised milk, tinned corn, beans, paracetamol and ibuprofen.
The family have bought piles of aspirin, Calpol, dried milk, honey, Marmite, porridge oats, raisins, bread, flour, yeast and coffee.
The clan also boasts supplies of tea, sugar, apple juice, orange juice, Ovaltine and hand soap.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/family-st...084454741.html

I don’t mind how the UK leaves, preferably the option chosen should make Butterfly cry like stuck pig.