Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by jabir

Beginning of the end, for Europe, though consolation for malicious Europhiles is that the fallout will sink the UK as well.

German economy struggling and with more stress in the pipeline, Greece due for more free money in the next year or two to bail out Deutsche Bank, Italy and a couple of other pauper states likely to follow, Soros and a string of hedge funds already shorting Deutsche Bank...probably won't happen tomorrow but when the cracks can no longer be papered over with funny money it'll be too late for the 4th Reich and its followers to bail out. Wouldn't surprise me if behind the bluster they're preparing for a continent-wide scramble.

Meanwhile, was it Soros himself or his spokesman who said, “If Britain leaves, it could unleash a general exodus, and the disintegration of the European Union will become practically unavoidable.” Anyone care to speculate whether this evil genius is unloading billions into gold?

And all this without May's timidity, which as posted earlier may well save her if she ends up with such a bad deal that she has to walk away for a hard Brexit, giving EU tyrants the choice between saving face and courting her for a second chance to cooperate for mutual benefit; anyone care to guess which option they would favour?


Either way, if she or her replacement has to go the country they will do so stating the obvious, that the pound and the markets have already priced in Brexit, though there is no way to prepare for the absolute, total disaster of a Corbyn in office, with $/£ parity or worse as markets tank, taxes go through the roof and the brains drain from the UK; and once gone as they did the last time taxes soared, they don't come back.

And anyway, does anyone claim to know Corbyn policies? He’s a career protester voting against everything that falls short of his style of Socialism, whatever that is, never even considered that one day he might have to start making decisions for the country. But upside for him is that young voters know little to nothing about socialism or the human costs of its extreme form.

Back on track, 'experts' give the EU 2 years to infinity, I give 5-10 years.

you are clearly delusional,

typical amateur thinking out loud

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

No, it doesn't work like that you neanderthal, unless of course you are spouting Kipper/Tory Brexit rhetoric to fucking morons.

In the previous cycles of diminished value there was little evidence of a proportionate increase in the sale of manufactured goods abroad or the realisation of any increased profit-taking. Many product lines rely on foreign sourced supply chains and with their importation the cost to produce is therefore increased. Now, one could simply increase the sale cost but that would detract from competitiveness risking a loss of a market so the alternative is to absorb the increased costs, maintain price and accept a diminution in profits. This however puts pressure on production since investment is reduced as well as profit sharing with employees who receive less bonuses etc. In truth there is no correlation between devaluation and a sustained benefit to the export of manufactured goods. Also, global economic fluctuations are such that vacillation in world demand determines economic strength and not piddling parochial circumstances - in essence, when your shit is unpopular or unwanted who gives a fuck about how much cheaper it is because your £ is a toilet currency.
But the real kicker in this stupid mantra " cheaper £ means more exports" is the fact that only 9% of GDP is derived from manufacturing only employing around 2.6 million of the 32 million workforce - selling a few more widgets means fuck all to the greater majority.
Britain in broad terms imports 60% of pretty much everything it needs to function - your currency goes down the shitter by another 20%, you is fucked no matter where the fuck you are.

Stagflation is on the menu for the next decade, eat your fucking heart out.

SA reminds me of Dave Spart.

The spectator has a good read on having no fear of Brexit.


Why a no-deal Brexit is nothing to fear

A viable alternative to an EU trade deal is ready and waiting

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/...id-of-the-wto/

SA reminds me of Dave Spart.

but hes slowly and inexorably turning into lunchtime o'booze.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Well that's poorly written so not that easy to decipher, but it isn't really sarcasm, is it?

Just the mumblings of a half-baked swallower of tory propaganda.

Help me Lord...

try post 2737, but you will have to make do as is, too late to edit in a smilie.

I know you like the last word, so any further reference to your inability to catch the obvious will be ignored.

Originally Posted by Chico

The spectator has a good read on having no fear of Brexit.


Why a no-deal Brexit is nothing to fear

A viable alternative to an EU trade deal is ready and waiting



https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/08/...id-of-the-wto/

Considering the article was written by a committee from the fucking Telegraph i.e those fat cvunts Heffer and BoJo, no surprise there, you stupid gormless, credulous moron.

Look, the entire economic fabric, from Pharma to Transport via SMEs and corporate manufacturing interests supported by the financial sector and the fucking Bank of England have all warned that a hard Brexit will be a fuck up of all fucks ups and Britain will be shredded for the next fucking decade. And what do you do, post some cheap propaganda from a right wing extremist group as if it were some independent valuation from fucking King Solomon.

Seekingass are you reading another link.

it was wrote by

David Collins is a professor of International Economic Law at City, University of London.

To be fair I know two Brexiteers who are educated and successful. Trying to engage with the vast majority of them however is a different matter entirely, I've still not heard of one concrete benefit of Brexit- a lot of ifs and maybes and that's about it. Having just got on the property ladder I'm not best pleased about my investment being devalued by a no deal Brexit. Granted, it ain't in Sloane Square, but I happen to rather like it.

Originally Posted by Chico

Seekingass are you reading another link.

it was wrote by

David Collins is a professor of International Economic Law at City, University of London.

He's an academic who has never worked in anything other than in the groves of conjecture and theory but for reasons best known to himself he seems to have tilted his cap at the Brexit cap, presumably because he sees an advantage to his own bank account given that the self serving disingenuous cvunt is an "expert" on WTO and its operation.

Whoudda thunk it , eh? A fucking academic expert in the WTO getting into bed with BoJo et al at the Spectator and other Tory "research" groups advocating a hard Brexit and entry into the .............yep, the fucking WTO..

That's the problem with you lay people, you are so fucking dense you can't assess anything for your selves.

err weren't you a silly sausage of a civil servant.?

Originally Posted by Chico

Seekingass are you reading another link.

it was wrote by

David Collins is a professor of International Economic Law at City, University of London.

International Economic Law, WTF does that even mean, is it even fucking real ???

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

He's an academic who has never worked in anything other than in the groves of conjecture and theory but for reasons best known to himself he seems to have tilted his cap at the Brexit cap, presumably because he sees an advantage to his own bank account given that the self serving disingenuous cvunt is an "expert" on WTO and its operation.

Whoudda thunk it , eh? A fucking academic expert in the WTO getting into bed with BoJo et al at the Spectator and other Tory "research" groups advocating a hard Brexit and entry into the .............yep, the fucking WTO..

That's the problem with you lay people, you are so fucking dense you can't assess anything for your selves.

You are fucking brilliant

looks like nothing is really quiet on the Torry front, and the battle for a new leader has just started

Go Boris, go

Jacob Rees-Mogg: Boris Johnson burka probe is 'show trial'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45153483

love it, British racism at his best

Mr Johnson said women in burkas looked like "letter boxes" or "bank robbers".

^One wonders if his security detail will look away at a particularly dangerous moment.

It's time to get real about this shit.

The voters have come to their senses.

They were deceived and many made a stupid mistake.

Putting your hand up when you've made a mistake and correcting the error is generally considered an adult thing to do in real life. How refreshing it would be if there were an 'outbreak of adulthood' in Westminster too.

Brexit

More than 100 seats that backed Brexit now want to stay in EU

Major new analysis shows most constituencies now have majority who want to Remain

Nick Lowles, head of Hope not Hate, said: “Our data shows a clear shift in public opinion against Brexit and people’s growing anxiety over how leaving the EU will affect themselves and their families. This cannot be ignored.
“The rate of change appears to be quickening as the realities of what Brexit would mean become more apparent and the fears of a no-deal Brexit grow, especially for Labour Leave voters who initially believed that leaving the EU would improve their economic prospects. Brexit is failing these voters and the country as a whole. Politicians need to understand that public opinion has changed.”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...itch-to-remain

Politicians need to understand that public opinion has changed.

Do the public know what they want?

So we have another referendum, stay in, and what happens a week/year later when that democratic sufferance of 'public opinion' changes again?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Nick Lowles, head of Hope not Hate

which just happens to be one of George Soros's programmes,oh the gullible.

Have a referendum every month for a year. Take the annual average. If its still a Brexit majority do it for another year.................

The first annual average that votes remain stop. Similar to what the Irish did, until the voters gave in.

There is no need for a referendum. There is never a need for a referendum. There is also no need to leave the EU. Once an alternative plan, trading without being in the EU has been thought through and can bring better returns than at present then it can be put in a mandate and voted on at a GE.

Right now the maybot needs to swallow hard and explain the reality of brexit before giving it the boot. Farage can lead a party and fight a GE before failing miserably and realising what a stupid coont he is.

Originally Posted by Troy

There is no need for a referendum. There is never a need for a referendum. There is also no need to leave the EU. Once an alternative plan, trading without being in the EU has been thought through and can bring better returns than at present then it can be put in a mandate and voted on at a GE.

Right now the maybot needs to swallow hard and explain the reality of brexit before giving it the boot. Farage can lead a party and fight a GE before failing miserably and realising what a stupid coont he is.

You well know that isn't going to happen, and it's a case of just how hard a Brexit it's going to be (which essentially is now down to Barnier, or more tellingly Merkel and Macron, putting pragmatism before political dogma).

Just finished reading a very interesting article on the Eire/UK situation, have a look.

https://www.politico.eu/article/carg...to-eu-markets/

please people do not give up on Brexit, it's the only way forward for us in the EU (and backward for the fools in the UK)

Originally Posted by PAG

You well know that isn't going to happen, and it's a case of just how hard a Brexit it's going to be (which essentially is now down to Barnier, or more tellingly Merkel and Macron, putting pragmatism before political dogma).

Just finished reading a very interesting article on the Eire/UK situation, have a look.

Err, it was Britain that voted to leave, not the EU, you fucking idiot. Which bit of Brexit means Brexit and no cherry picking did you not comprehend you mofo? And do you truly think in your infantilism that France and Germany dictate the moves?? The EU is 27 countries and each has a vote to either fuck you spastic Brexit wankers in the arse or give you a free ride.

The EU's core freedoms count more than all the Brexit spunk bubbles in the world but the fundamental truth in all this is the fucking stupidity of the mongol English too fucking dumb to comprehend it.

A clean Brexit thankfully looking more likely, Doris is doomed no support for her Chequers agreement which is leaving in name only. Tories thankfully coming their senses and going to dump her and the Brexit 17.4 million people voted for will become reality.