Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

^ ...and yet you write about brexit as if you are speaking on behalf of everyone in the uk. Righto then...

I hope the UK doesn't end up as it was in the nationalist 1960's. The times when crossing your sevens made you a foreigner and pronouncing 'th' as 'zee' horrified the schools and neighbourhood. Worse was to come, when a European language was drilled out of you, accent and all only to become a compulsory subject to learn only a few years later. That era did wonders for my, and many other, childhoods as parents returned from protecting the nation in Europe.

Brexit, a blot on the landscape, the cancer of Europe, willed on by people blaming the EU for a very British mistake.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

But Hua Hin is different. Poor Tax, wrapping his tartan rug around his rotundity safely strapped into his bathchair as he views the horizon from his vantage point atop Scarsbollockthwaite, he reflects warmly upon his Thai bolthole which in his frazzled, synaptic deficient consciousness he resolutely considers to be superior to Pattaya - not for him the whore that is Pattaya, he bought the cashier!

Har, har.

Anywhere is better than Pattaya. Cheap beer, cheap whores and western food.

You really should have retired to Blackpool gent. Not much different to Pattaya.

I grew up in the UK in the fifties and sixties Troy. Don’t recall any of that language nonsense. Did your parents have ex pow’s running the estate for them?

is that where you live Chass, between two lorry stops ?

Funny old thing, people don't normally recall things that don't directly affect them.

I see the Chequers plan has moved swiftly from a final offer to a starting point for negotiations. When will the government work out it should think about tackling real problems rather than failing miserably to fix perceived ones.

...and Rees-Mogg needs to get behind his boss or resign. He is too much of an embarrassment to be considered anything but a nutter.

Originally Posted by Switch

Anywhere is better than Pattaya. Cheap beer, cheap whores and western food.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Originally Posted by cyrille

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Thank you for blessing my post young man.

Originally Posted by PAG

Wonder who is going to step in and pay the circa 40 billion pounds that the UK was ready to commit to as a parting 'gift' to the EU. Getting better and better. UK has already said no hard border NI/Eire, what an about turn if the EU instructs Eire to implement border controls with a non EU country. Smuggling is going to be a major issue for Eire.

Reading this morning that the new Brexit Secretary has reiterated to the EU that no trade deal, no payment, and Barnier has also raised the potential problem of smuggling. Also read this in today's Sunday Times from a columnist that essentially mirrors my own views:

"This Northern Ireland border issue that is vexing everyone, especially the Irish taoiseach, seems fairly simple to resolve. Indeed, it scarcely needs resolving. If we do not want a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic and the Irish do not want a hard border, who the hell is going to put one up? Who is going to build the customs posts and fencing and provide the requisite surly staff?If the European Union insists upon customs posts, surely it becomes a discussion between Ireland and the EU and nothing to do with us. And does anyone, other than Ireland’s smirking taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, think the EU would be stupid enough to do that? It is surely another one of those chimeric threats from an increasingly authoritarian supranational bureaucracy that is currently facing rebellion on all fronts.

But, if so, let them march over with their hammers, barriers, tin tacks and multiple forms and see how that goes down with the people of Ireland.

As a nation state, we decide what happens with our borders and the Irish would be minded to do the same — unless after that “one thousand years of Anglo-Saxon oppression” they have lost sense of what it means to have an independent nation state and to control your own borders. That I doubt. If that really happens, Ireland will quickly understand from where the present oppression emanates: not London but Brussels.It is true, of course, that we have oppressed Ireland since the financial crisis by bunging it more than £20bn of UK taxpayers’ money to bail out its wrecked economy, for which we expected no thanks and, indeed, did not receive any. That was, I dare say, perceived as colonialist and patronising by Mr Varadkar and Mrs May should probably apologise to him.

Young Leo is rapidly becoming my least favourite world leader, currently tied in last place with that simpering alleged sex pest of a Canadian, Justin Trudeau. I accept that there are various fat, medal-bedecked Marxist thugs in Africa, one or two preening fascists in the ’Stans, good old Kim, plus some leaders in the Islamic world from Jakarta to Ramallah who are much worse. But they preside over Third World satrapies and so are discounted. I meant from what we might call the First World.

Leo’s latest offensive is to warn that UK airlines could be barred from flying over Irish airspace post-Brexit. I’m sorry — I hate to be rude — but the man is plainly a moron. You’d imagine 90% of planes out of Dublin fly over British airspace, so if it becomes tit-for-tat, that’s your economy buggered again, and the end to the operations of Ryanair and Aer Lingus. While, by comparison, about 10% of British planes probably fly over Irish airspace.

So this is another paper tiger, a chimera, a false threat occasioned by spite and pique, which has rightly been ridiculed across the world on social media.

And yet he is not alone. The entire process of negotiating our exit from the EU has been accompanied by much the same sort of stuff: empty threats and vindictiveness flung at us each week by the rabble of drunkards and lawyers the EU employs to make sure that anyone who wishes to leave the benighted institution gets first of all a punch in the face and then, later, a punch in the face.

I was for “leave” for reasons of democracy and sovereignty — but only just. And yet now I wonder who would want to be in a club like that. A club so terrified it will soon cease to exist that it will stoop to anything in its attempts to cow and bully those it sees as miscreants.

The Hungarians, the Poles, the Austrians, the Italians, the Catalans and pretty soon the Swedes. I think we’re in good company, right where we are, no matter how inept and credulous our government.

It is often said we should worry about the world we are leaving to the younger generation. I am more worried about the poor world, given the younger generation who will have custody of it."

Poor old Rod, I think the next step will be the Sun.

The past is certainly our future and with rhetoricians pandering to the lower end it is certainly grim.

Liddle used to be an intelligent polemicist but now he is lurching into a doctrine founded on bigotry and waffle. Ssd but typical of an ageing hack with nowhere to go except down into the mire.

Originally Posted by PAG

"This Northern Ireland border issue that is vexing everyone, especially the Irish taoiseach, seems fairly simple to resolve. Indeed, it scarcely needs resolving. If we do not want a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic and the Irish do not want a hard border, who the hell is going to put one up? Who is going to build the customs posts and fencing and provide the requisite surly staff?If the European Union insists upon customs posts, surely it becomes a discussion between Ireland and the EU and nothing to do with us. And does anyone, other than Ireland’s smirking taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, think the EU would be stupid enough to do that? It is surely another one of those chimeric threats from an increasingly authoritarian supranational bureaucracy that is currently facing rebellion on all fronts. But, if so, let them march over with their hammers, barriers, tin tacks and multiple forms and see how that goes down with the people of Ireland. As a nation state, we decide what happens with our borders and the Irish would be minded to do the same

The Irish PM said they plan to recruit 1000 more customs staff in case there is no deal.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1K82E3

DUBLIN (Reuters) - JULY 19, 2018

The Irish government on Wednesday agreed to hire 1,000 customs and veterinary officials to deal with new trade rules between Britain and Ireland that are likely to come into effect once Britain’s Brexit transition deal ends in March 2021, Prime Minister Leo Varadkar said.

In the event of a “no-deal” hard Brexit, which Varadkar described as unlikely, the government will make contingency arrangements, he told journalists.

“We do think that, with Brexit now eight months away and growing uncertainty about whether it will be possible to get a withdrawal agreement through Westminster, that we do need to change the gear and up our preparations when it comes to Brexit,” Varadkar said.

Originally Posted by Neverna

The Irish government on Wednesday agreed to hire 1,000 customs and veterinary officials to deal with new trade rules between Britain and Ireland that are likely to come into effect once Britain’s Brexit transition deal ends in March 2021

Can someone tell me if customs and veterinary officials were reduced in number on us joining the EU? This is because all I hear from the Remoaners is about the doom and gloom of job losses that will be caused by Brexit.

I was for “leave” for reasons of democracy and sovereignty — but only just. And yet now I wonder who would want to be in a club like that. A club so terrified it will soon cease to exist that it will stoop to anything in its attempts to cow and bully those it sees as miscreants.

He is spot on.

Liddle used to be an intelligent polemicist

He still is, and the fact that you disagree with him merely illustrates that you are unable to evaluate any opinion that differs from your own narrow minded bigotry and hatred.

keep on sucking barniers, and the even more repulsive selmayers filthy cocks and see where it gets you. fucking bankruptcy and servitude, just like italy, greece et al.

We need to be free from those madmen and their silly dreams of utopia. Europe never has been a utopia, and it never will be. Too many cultural differences that cannot simply be legislated out of existence.

^^ The UK and Eire together with IoM and the channel islands have been part of a common travel area since 1923. Eire and the UK joined the EU at the same time so there was no change required. Now the UK is leaving but Eire is not, there is a requirement, although this only needs to be a customs border.

The simplest solution is to have the customs border between the island of Ireland and Britain but the DUP opposes this. Since they only have 10 votes in parliament who cares. They will vote against the government for ever more so wait until their use has diminished before agreeing to the inevitable. It's the tory way....

you guys are really projecting

you left the club and threatened from day one of not paying anything, and you expected us to bend over and throw the red carpet ?

you people are delusional, you got treated as you deserved, that is as a bunch of pretentious spoiled brats who needed a good beating for good measure

the truth is nobody loves you in Europe, and Brexit is viewed as a lifetime opportunity for everyone, an opportunity not to miss

good fucking riddance, now stop moaning and die silently

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

you guys are really projecting

you left the club and threatened from day one of not paying anything, and you expected us to bend over and throw the red carpet ?

you people are delusional, you got treated as you deserved, that is as a bunch of pretentious spoiled brats who needed a good beating for good measure

the truth is nobody loves you in Europe, and Brexit is viewed as a lifetime opportunity for everyone, an opportunity not to miss

good fucking riddance, now stop moaning and die silently

Europe doesn't need to love us but they will miss us, esp when it goes tits up and not everybody's there to enjoy it.

well better to fail then without the UK than with the UK

bye bye now UK, it was nice to meet you, now fook off

Originally Posted by taxexile

He is spot on.






He still is, and the fact that you disagree with him merely illustrates that you are unable to evaluate any opinion that differs from your own narrow minded bigotry and hatred.

keep on sucking barniers, and the even more repulsive selmayers filthy cocks and see where it gets you. fucking bankruptcy and servitude, just like italy, greece et al.

We need to be free from those madmen and their silly dreams of utopia. Europe never has been a utopia, and it never will be. Too many cultural differences that cannot simply be legislated out of existence.

Tax, in citing cultural differences you are merely glossing over the truth, scarcely surprising given your membership of the geriatric and demented right wing of the loopy Kipper/Tory cadre.

The differences are stark, and in fact are not cultural, but something much more profound. Whereas the average EU citizen is essentially a decent, reasonably educated, sober-minded and knowledgeable person, the average Briton is a lumpen, usually drunken, stupid, badly educated and ill-informed dickhead whose default position when asked to explain his thoughts on Britain's status will usually respond by simply reiterating the demonstrable fact he is" British, innit, we won the war and had the biggest empire so we's the best, innit, stands to fucking reason".

Which is why over 50% of the population are a bunch of stupid, dull-witted, ignorant cunts.

Surely, Tax, when you know the bedrock of Brexit support is the gormless lower end and fucking idiots you must realise Brexit is a fucking disaster, yes?

Liddle is becoming a caricature of his former self and I think is angling for a column with the Sun or Daily Mail. His piece today was utter rubbish and ignoring salient truths to add weight in support of his skewed polemic is really quite intellectually dishonest.

speaking of delusional UK, this is hot off the press

Dominic Raab: We can get Brexit deal done by October


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44913982

A deal with the EU can be reached by October but the UK is preparing for the possibility of no deal, the new Brexit secretary Dominic Raab has said.

how can any of you fooks can keep a straight face with such non-sense

true English coolness, almost as cool as the Thais in front of a disaster, acting all cool like nothing happened

Good old Labour.

^^The fact is that it's politically expedient for Labour to leave May to hang herself.

May has been historically a remainer too, of course.

Cyrille whats factually incorrect about it,the poll was conducted and has two days to run,and its had 320,000 votes.

So what is it you don't understand about Polls.?

Do you know what '^^' signifies?

I can't be arsed converting your posts into English at the best of times.

I certainly don't bother when they're in invisible ink, you dimwitted clown.

oh dear I just nodded off,waiting for your informative post.