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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
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    Slavery has nothing to do with this topic, nor does the Abolitionist movement.
    'course not, it's just some black boys causing trouble, as they do, right?
    Wrong again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    Even the Republic of Mexico is 100+ years, older than The United States

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    Republic of Mexico is about 60 years younger than the United States.
    You're right.
    As always.
    Mexico became independent in 1821.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR
    Sounds like a legitimate cause, sadly the White asshole liberal apologists will probably use this incident as an excuse to remove the historical statue. Removing historical monuments is not any different than book burning.
    An uniformed opinion as per, Bob. The Charlottesville City Council voted to remove the statue back in April.

    Maybe you should go burn a cross on your lawn or put a pillowcase on your head or whatever it is your type does to get over the butthurt.

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    Who wrote this tweet?

    Not sure who provoked first. Both sides were hitting each other at Justice Park before police arrived. #Charlottesville
    Must be an alt right hate site right? Or one of 'white nationalists' in the WH. Well no. Its ACLU Virginia.

    https://twitter.com/ACLUVA/status/896410932355751937

    You can see video of some the altercations in the link.

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    Oh well that changes literally everything then.

    Neo-Nazism and facism is a-OK. Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobR View Post

    Supreme Court unanimously reaffirms: There is no ‘hate speech’ exception to the First Amendment

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ebe3bc613dbe

    So I'll take that as Septics regard free speech as sacred but crack the shits big time when it all goes tits up.

    I mean WTF do the munters expect, same as every other Seppo nutter running around tooled up packing guns.

    And now we have the political Nut cases blaming it all on Trump. ??????

    Would be exactly the same if fat arsed Hillary would of got in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    So I'll take that as Septics regard free speech as sacred but crack the shits big time when it all goes tits up.
    Saying shit ok. Hitting people with cars...not ok. Seems clear enough


    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    Would be exactly the same if fat arsed Hillary would of got in.
    I agree with that....and I highly doubt this guy hit people because of Trump. These assholes were just as pissed when Obama was in office. I don't think they require encouragement. We've seen plenty of examples of this stuff well before Trump came along

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    ^

    Yer but it all goes hand in hand dunit,

    Ya got these White supremacist filth chanting their hatred and it's not long before someone gets a gun out or goes nuts in their car or just flips out stabbing people.

    Punters on both sides tend to lose their shit under these provocative circumstances.

    This is why many countries have made hate speech illegal but the seppos just need to hang on to their guns and free speech simply because they are afraid the Government is trying to fuk them over.

    Seppos have created a never ending shit sandwich, let them eat it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    This is why many countries have made hate speech illegal but the seppos just need to hang on to their guns and free speech simply because they are afraid the Government is trying to fuk them over.

    Seppos have created a never ending shit sandwich, let them eat it.
    Nah, this shit is happening all over.

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    Many Septics are simply Russians with credit cards and probably less intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    Many Septics are simply Russians with credit cards and probably less intelligent.
    The unintended irony of these posts never stops being outstanding

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    ^ ^

    I would say its more to do with the septics having some very retarded laws that gives the red necks amongst them a platform to get up and stir up some serious shit.

    The right to free speech is seriously fuked when it gets down to it.

    Keep ya dumb arse hatred in ya lounge room would be preferable.

    Ok hating on Trump if ya want but to be able to call out for all the Niggers to be thrown on the BBQ is sort of looking for some serious trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Seppos have created a never ending shit sandwich, let them eat it.
    Not at all.

    Look at the UK, Europe, the middle east and Thailand, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
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    The topic thread is about a protest, by whites, over the proposed dismantling of two statues,
    It's about Nazis murdering people on the streets of the US and about the President of the US refusing to condemn those Nazis.
    So, how many people have been 'murdered' in Charlottesville by 'Nazis'?

    Hmm.., that's exactly none.

    Heather Heyer was murdered by Nazis in Charlottesville, care to explain why you think otherwise? She was murdered yesterday, 12 August 2017, in Charlottesville, by a self-avowed Nazi. What do you know that's different to what the murderer said?

    This is her, why do you think she's "none" when it comes to being murdered?
    "Nazis murdering people on the streets"
    First, that is one person murdered, not several, as your hysterical comment suggests. Second, she was killed by James Alex Fields, a registered Republican, not by "Nazis".

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    ^ ^

    Yep,

    That's right, same shit different countries.

    So why do people complain when the shit hits the fan ?

    No point is there, its gota happen and will continue to happen simply because the world is basically fuked up.

    Well the world is Ok it's just the Humans who tend to fuk it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    ^ ^

    I would say its more to do with the septics having some very retarded laws that gives the red necks amongst them a platform to get up and stir up some serious shit.

    The right to free speech is seriously fuked when it gets down to it.

    Keep ya dumb arse hatred in ya lounge room would be preferable.

    Ok hating on Trump if ya want but to be able to call out for all the Niggers to be thrown on the BBQ is sort of looking for some serious trouble.
    How about Australia?

    An Aussie told me that if an Aussie criticizes muslims/islam on FB the Oz govt. closes their FB account. True?

    Richard Dawkins criticized christianity and that was no problem. He also criticized islam was prohibited from Berkeley for doing so.

    In the UK muslim make strong statements with police protection, but non-muslims get prosecuted for hate speech.


    Look around. Take your blinders off.

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    Dunno,

    But ya not allowed to get up on a soap box and call out the Jigaboos as petrol sniffing violent waste of space and oxygen thieves.

    Not allowed to call a Muslim a rag head or even a shifter a nasty Poove.

    Can't to do any of that stuff.

    No fun over there eh.

    So i suppose the Seppos are on the right track after all.

    Oh yes, Face book is for Pooves, r u on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
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    Seppos have created a never ending shit sandwich, let them eat it.
    Not at all.

    Look at the UK, Europe, the middle east and Thailand, for example.
    I honestly think you don't know just how fucked up your shitty society truly is.

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    Ya gota take the good with the Bad Thegent,

    I rather enjoyed Disneyland.

    But when ya put Seppoland up against Thailand they seem very balanced and normal eh.

    This joint is seriously fuked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuskegeeBen
    The topic thread is about a protest, by whites, over the proposed dismantling of two statues,
    It's about Nazis murdering people on the streets of the US and about the President of the US refusing to condemn those Nazis.
    So, how many people have been 'murdered' in Charlottesville by 'Nazis'?

    Hmm.., that's exactly none.

    Heather Heyer was murdered by Nazis in Charlottesville, care to explain why you think otherwise? She was murdered yesterday, 12 August 2017, in Charlottesville, by a self-avowed Nazi. What do you know that's different to what the murderer said?

    This is her, why do you think she's "none" when it comes to being murdered?
    "Nazis murdering people on the streets"
    First, that is one person murdered, not several, as your hysterical comment suggests. Second, she was killed by James Alex Fields, a registered Republican, not by "Nazis".

    Where did your claim that no-one was killed come from?

    I suggest you take some time to find out who Vanguard America are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
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    Dunno,

    But ya not allowed to get up on a soap box and call out the Jigaboos as petrol sniffing violent waste of space and oxygen thieves.

    Not allowed to call a Muslim a rag head or even a shifter a nasty Poove.

    Can't to do any of that stuff.

    No fun over there eh.

    So i suppose the Seppos are on the right track after all.

    Oh yes, Face book is for Pooves, r u on it.
    You've missed the point completely and you did not understand my question.

    Let me re-phrase.

    We are NOT talking about name-calling or slurs. We're talking about criticism of islam and behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    We're talking about criticism of islam and behaviour.
    No we are not. This thread is not about islam piss off the the muslim thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    We're talking about criticism of islam and behaviour.
    No we are not. This thread is not about islam piss off the the muslim thread.
    This is about Terry's post on free speech and my response to him - which he has not answered.

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    Fear of ‘violent left’ preceded events in Charlottesville

    Just because extreme left propaganda outlets and rabid activists call protestors they hate "white supremecists", doesn't mean they are. The extreme left mob's rabid narrative and benighted bigotry is desperately trying to aggressively dominate the narrative, and scare away any and all dissent from their jihad against freedom.
    They're doing all the stereotypical fascist behaviours of "big lie" politics and characterising their enemy before the enemy can. It's so important to stand up to these insane bullies and inject some balance to the story and cooler temperments.

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    Fear of ‘violent left’ preceded events in Charlottesville









    By David Weigel August 13 at 3:45 PM
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    Charlottesville a day later: Sharp emotions linger with residents, organizers, community








    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D) on Aug. 13 said Charlottesville is “stronger” a day after violence erupted in the city. The organizer of a white nationalist rally said clashes occurred because police declined “to do their job.” (Whitney Leaming, Bastien Inzaurralde/The Washington Post)


    On Saturday afternoon, shortly before her camera captured a car plowing through left-wing activists in Charlottesville, killing one and injuring more than a dozen others, Faith Goldy warned that the left was spinning out of control.
    “Hundreds and hundreds of antifa, weird BLM, idiots dressed like clowns,” said Goldy, a reporter for the Canadian alt-right news site The Rebel. “This is okay, as long as you’re not the alt-right. The alt-right wasn’t allowed to demonstrate any show of force.”
    As if on cue, activists began chanting “black lives matter” in the background of Goldy’s shot.
    “Chant BLM, and all of a sudden the cops don’t care!” she said. “Where are the riot police now?”
    Goldy’s report, which transformed into police evidence after James Alex Fields Jr. allegedly plowed his car into counterprotesters, was representative of a theme that had risen from far-right media to the mainstream since President Trump’s inauguration. The growth of “antifa,” a loose and often ad hoc network of left-wing “antifascist” groups, has been covered as a rising danger to law and order, a justification for alt-right organizations to organize armed rallies — and for ordinary Americans to arm themselves, too.
    The “antifa” concept has existed for almost as long as fascism itself, but in the wake of Trump’s victory, organizers claimed to be seeing an influx of new energy and new recruits. In the lead-up to Inauguration Day, conservative undercover sting artist James O’Keefe released video of D.C. antifascist organizers plotting Jan. 20 disruptions. Even as they faced questions from law enforcement, antifa allies used “black bloc” tactics to rage across the area just outside of the inaugural parade, donning masks, smashing windows and burning cars.
    The Inauguration Day actions included an assault on white nationalist leader Richard Spencer, footage of which went viral. But video of the property damage took on greater import, as some conservatives began using it to portray an out-of-control left. Weeks after the inauguration, antifa activists committed $100,000 in property damage and several assaults in protests that shut down a University of California at Berkeley speech by then-Breitbart editor Milo Yiannopoulos. In a Feb. 24 speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, the National Rifle Assocation’s Wayne LaPierre linked those events with incidents of people being attacked if they supported the president.
    “Right now, we face a gathering of forces that are willing to use violence against us,” warned LaPierre. “If the violent left brings their terror to our communities, our neighborhoods, or into our homes, they will be met with the resolve and the strength and the full force of American freedom in the hands of the American people. Among them and behind them are some of the most radical political elements there are. Anarchists, Marxists, communists and the whole rest of the left-wing Socialist brigade.”
    On March 31, the footage of the inaugural rioting appeared for the first time in a political TV ad. In “Extremists,” a commercial produced by the Congressional Leadership Fund super PAC to defeat Georgia congressional candidate Jon Ossoff, footage of peaceful Women’s March events — one of which Ossoff attended — was blended with footage of anarchists smashing windows and starting fires.
    “Liberal extremists will stop at nothing to push their radical agenda,” said a narrator. “Ossoff is one of them.”

    In reality, antifa actions were relatively isolated, focused on disrupting white nationalist rallies — which, in turn, fed off the idea that the violent left needed to be stopped in the streets. Several high-profile rallies transformed into brawls between black-clad antifa and conservatives who sometimes claimed membership in new anti-antifa organizations, such as the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights, a wing of the Proud Boys, itself a group founded by Rebel commentator Gavin McInnes.
    “I’ve heard rumors the mayor of Portland is going to tell his police to stand down at some forthcoming alt-right events in his city,” wrote McInnes in a June column at the right-wing site Taki’s Magazine. “By allowing these sociopaths to shut down free speech with violence you are all but demanding a war. Okay, fine, you got it. It’s official. This is a war.”

    In the hours after the Charlottesville disaster, President Trump’s pointed condemnation of “many sides” for the violence baffled some Republicans; on Twitter, frequent Trump critics such as Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) and Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) asked why the president could not specifically condemn white supremacists or neo-Nazis, making clear who had allegedly committed murder at the protest.
    But this morning, hours before a revised White House statement that did mention “neo-nazis,” Trump allies inside and outside the White House were careful to say that the left shared blame for Charlottesville. On CNN’s “State of the Union,” former Trump campaign adviser Michael Caputo asked why the media was not condemning antifa, insisting without evidence that “they tried to kill people” who showed up at the planned alt-right rally.
    “America is being moved into chaos by people on both sides who think that they’re better than anyone else on the other side,” said Caputo. “The rhetoric gets heightened, you know, turns violent, and eventually you have racist KKK fighting the fascist antifa in the streets of Charlottesville. Both sides showed up with helmets and weapons.”
    On the same show, homeland security adviser Tom Bossert tried to make a similar point, and was repeatedly interrupted by host Jake Tapper.
    “I’m sure there were good people in the group that had various opinions on the removal or maintenance of the statue,” Bossert said. “But what they found when they showed up were groups from outside that showed up on both sides looking for trouble, dressed in riot gear, prepared for violence.”
    “How many people did the counterprotesters kill yesterday, Mr. Bossert?” asked Tapper.
    “Well, I will tell you, one death is too many, Jake,” said Bossert.
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    “That wasn’t by the counterprotesters,” said Tapper.
    And in some of the pro-Trump media that had been warning of antifa violence, the conversation was just as fraught. On Saturday, McInnes and InfoWars host Alex Jones streamed their reaction to what had happened, decrying the violence but placing the blame on the left. that he had stayed far from Charlottesville after he “saw that thing going white nationalist, white power.”
    Jones, meanwhile, worried that the events in Charlottesville represented a successful long-term strategy by the left to foment violence.
    “We know [liberal megadonor George] Soros has been planning this, trying to create provocative events,” said Jones. “We’re winning, but I think demonstrating in any Democratic-controlled city now…”
    He trailed off. “Just like they do at these events at Berkeley, they beat you up, then they lie about what happened,” he said.



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    Nazi sympathiser drives car into crowd killing one and injuring others; some how, some way you find a way to blame it on 'the left'...

    At least you're consistent I suppose.

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