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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3 View Post
    ENT is not a Brit anyway is he.
    Oh, yes I am, though born in India.

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    ENT is not a Brit anyway is he.
    No, ENT is a Stupid from Spastica and likes to fantasise a lot. Essentially harmless but has way too much time on his hands which his hobby of onanism cannot fill.

    His antecedents may have been Welsh at one stage.
    Says the tourettes suffering, bog-trotting Anglophilic escapee from Ireland with pretensions to grandeur,

    By the way, how's yer twitch these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Meanwhile, the Greater Manchester Police say that while there is much more work to do they're pretty confident that they've now got most of the terrorist network behind the bombing. There is a definite Libyan cast to the whole thing. The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    very interesting.

    thank you so much for the news update.

    pass that info on to your friends and acquaintances in real life, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    ENT is not a Brit anyway is he.
    Oh, yes I am, though born in India.
    Explains it all and I had already guessed that you were one.
    The most illogical people I have ever come across.

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    Europe’s denial of Islamic terrorism threat perplexes security specialists



    By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Tuesday, May 23, 2017
    The Manchester massacre underscores complaints from counterterrorism analysts that Europe has fallen into denial about the threat of Islamic terrorism.
    For instance, London Mayor Sadiq Khan is on record as saying terrorism is “part and parcel” of urban life.
    Furthermore, London police said in March that they could not assign a motive to a vehicle attack in which a Muslim British citizen followed the Islamic State tactical playbook by driving an SUV over pedestrians on crowded Westminster Bridge.

    After the Brussels airport/subway bomb attacks in March 2016, U.S. officials said the Belgian capital was behind the times in basic intelligence-sharing.
    Manchester Arena, with the largest capacity of any venue in Great Britain, exercised little security in the areas where people gathered before entering the concert Monday night. The foyer is where 22 concertgoers were killed and 119 others were injured by a suicide bomber. Fans said there was virtually no physical inspection of bags and knapsacks at the gates.
    All the while, Europe has become home to thousands of migrants from Islamic State-infested Syria and other Muslim-majority countries. Social media messaging indicates that the terrorist group has nurtured its leaders right under the noses of European intelligence agencies.
    “The state of denial permeating the political class still hobbles the ability of security professionals to address the radicalism of home-grown recruits,” said Michael Rubin, a foreign policy analyst at the American Enterprise Institute. “Returning Islamic State fighters are just going to throw fuel on the fire, if not today then down the road, because European leaders are too gutless to throw them in prison and toss away the key. Europe is a petri dish primed for radicalism to take root.”The European Union did not create its own counterterrorism center at The Hague until January 2016, after years of Islamic terrorist attacks. It has a staff of 49. By contrast, the U.S. set up the National Counterterrorism Center in 2005. It has 750 staffers.
    Steven Stalinsky, who directs the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), estimates that thousands of Islamic State supporters are in Europe. He bases the estimate on the large number of social media conversations.
    “I think that European counterterrorism efforts could be improved, as there have been many attacks throughout the continent the past two years,” Mr. Stalinsky said. “On the other hand, those involved in counterterrorism efforts have been successful in stopping many attacks and are most likely very stretched in monitoring the thousands of jihadis who are operating there freely, which should be expected to get worse in the future.”
    British Prime Minister Theresa May, who raised the nation’s terrorism threat level to critical on Tuesday, went out of her way after the March 22 Westminster Bridge attack to avoid talking about a motive.
    Robert Spencer, a scholar who operates Jihad Watch, said her lack of explanation is symptomatic of Europe’s denial.
    “Theresa May said after the Manchester jihad massacre that Britain would confront the ideology that leads to such attacks,” Mr. Spencer said. “But she doesn’t even know what it is and wouldn’t admit it if she did, since it is rooted in Islam. This denial prevails all over Europe. They keep bringing in massive numbers of Muslims and pretending that they aren’t thereby importing jihad and chaos and bloodshed for themselves and their children. But they are.”
    Larry Johnson, a consultant and former State Department counterterrorism official, was in London last year to teach a course on how to conduct surveillance.
    A basic deterrent is police presence. Mr. Johnson said he was struck by how few uniformed police he saw on the streets. The British government, he said, is relying on informants within Muslim neighborhoods and surveillance by MI5 internal security to head off attacks.
    Press reports said Salman Abedi, whom authorities identified Tuesday as the Manchester suicide bomber, was known to the government as a potential radical.
    “They don’t keep much police presence on the streets, so if you’re out walking on the streets there’s no such thing as really neighborhood policing anymore,” Mr. Johnson said. “I think I saw a grand total of three uniformed cops during that time period.
    “In their desire to be so open and accepting, they’ve really created a problem where they’ve got a massive foreign culture in London. The Islamic culture and values are not English values. They try to pretend that they are the same, but they’re not,” he said.
    Of the major European targets of the Islamic State — Great Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany and France — it is France that has taken the Islamic threat the most seriously.
    France remains in a state of emergency that was imposed in 2015 after Islamic State terrorists in Paris struck cafes, a soccer stadium and the Bataclan Theater, where 89 people were killed. The state of emergency has been extended three times. It gives the president power to suspend constitutional rights in counterterrorism cases.
    France has put restrictions on ancient Muslim dress and massive public prayers. It carries out the most intrusive intelligence collection of any European state, analysts say.
    Internal security has blunted a number attacks since Bataclan. In February, French police arrested four Islamic State followers and seized partially assembled improvised explosive devices, the Interior Ministry announced.
    The EU counterterrorism center’s latest report said it has had success in weeding out possible terrorist infiltrators by photographing refugees and comparing them to images of Islamic State fighters in the Middle East. The report said the Islamic State has dozens of active terrorists in Europe.
    “The EU is currently witnessing an upward trend in the scale, frequency and impact of terrorist attacks in the jurisdictions of member states,” the report stated. “France in particular has recently been hit hard by a series of terrorist attacks, perpetrated both by groups of terrorists and lone actors. IS is actively propagating terrorist acts on EU soil by any means available, increasingly inspiring radicalized individuals to act. IS has proven to be very effective in both moving people to commit terrorist acts and to set these actions in motion themselves.”


    Manchester bombing reveals Europe's denial of Islamic terror threat - Washington Times

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    I rather think it was to expats but one cannot rule out he is a chi-chi mongrel half-breed and belongs to neither camp which might explain his iconoclasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    Their help would have been much appreciated before the attack.
    Come to think of it...has there ever been some kind of information leaked to the police ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Meanwhile, the Greater Manchester Police say that while there is much more work to do they're pretty confident that they've now got most of the terrorist network behind the bombing. There is a definite Libyan cast to the whole thing. The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    very interesting.

    thank you so much for the news update.

    pass that info on to your friends and acquaintances in real life, too.
    Err, it's being quoted in all the British newspapers and other media outlets, you fucking cretin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    you fucking cretin.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    Err, it's being quoted in all the British newspapers and other media outlets, you fucking cretin.
    was being sarcastic.

    guess last night is too long ago for you to remember that i was taking the piss out of dr. bob last night for thinking that people get their news from reading this thread and dr. bob preferring there be no debate or discussion on this thread.

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    Please accept my most sincere apologies. I haven't noted your exchanges and missed the irony intended in your post.

    One has to lay it on a little thick if one's style is unfamiliar and the nuances are missed.

    I shall bear it in mind in the future.

    Bob can be a bit up his own fundament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    Their help would have been much appreciated before the attack.
    Come to think of it...has there ever been some kind of information leaked to the police ?
    Yes there has. Their failure to act on it is all over the British news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Please accept my most sincere apologies. I haven't noted your exchanges and missed the irony intended in your post.

    One has to lay it on a little thick if one's style is unfamiliar and the nuances are missed.

    I shall bear it in mind in the future.

    Bob can be a bit up his own fundament.
    The idiot is miffed because his inane and semi-literate gibberish was moved to one of the idiot threads, where it belonged. Like most of the TD untermensch he no doubt convinced himself his ape-like scratchings were gems of wisdom and pearls of literature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    semi-literate gibberish
    and you parroting what you heard on the news shows your critical thinking skills in action:



    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    Meanwhile, the Greater Manchester Police say that while there is much more work to do they're pretty confident that they've now got most of the terrorist network behind the bombing. There is a definite Libyan cast to the whole thing. The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    don't forget to tell your friends and neighbors about the news you read.

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    ^ Bob, straight up.. are (or have) America deliberately bombed innocent civilians in Syria/middle East, etc?

    I don't mean the odd missile that went astray of a military target... I mean purposefully targeted a hospital or school, etc?

    I'm 90% sure they have (dooh)... and if so, why does America interfere in conflicts that don't concern them?

    For self interest? (control of oil)... I see hospitals bombed almost daily, no one accepts the blame... American blames the Russians, Russia blame the Americans.... WTF is going on?

    Go easy on me.. not being sarcastic or anything.. it's just a complete fucking clustefcuk mess.. and I want to know the truth.. cheers.

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    US-led air strikes on Syria killed a total of 225 civilians over the past month, a monitor said on Tuesday, the highest 30-day toll since the campaign began in 2014.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the civilian dead between April 23 and May 23 included 44 children and 36 women.

    ...Coalition bombing raids between April 23 and May 23 also killed 122 IS jihadists and eight fighters loyal to the Syrian government, the Observatory said.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/deadliest...103330002.html

    It's worth noting that this is the 5th month in row that the Americans have outdone the Russians in killing civilians (and I think if you're killing two civilians for every enemy, that probably counts as deliberate), but don't expect the headlines in any English-language paper to match those when the Russians were bombing Aleppo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NZdick1983 View Post
    ^ Bob, straight up.. are (or have) America deliberately bombed innocent civilians in Syria/middle East, etc?

    I don't mean the odd missile that went astray of a military target... I mean purposefully targeted a hospital or school, etc?

    I'm 90% sure they have (dooh)... and if so, why does America interfere in conflicts that don't concern them?

    For self interest? (control of oil)... I see hospitals bombed almost daily, no one accepts the blame... American blames the Russians, Russia blame the Americans.... WTF is going on?

    Go easy on me.. not being sarcastic or anything.. it's just a complete fucking clustefcuk mess.. and I want to know the truth.. cheers.
    Sorry Nick, but none of us will ever know the real truth. Those that claim they do are either liars or complete idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
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    ENT is not a Brit anyway is he.
    Oh, yes I am, though born in India.
    ENT is a wog like Sir Cliff Richard then

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    Their help would have been much appreciated before the attack.
    Come to think of it...has there ever been some kind of information leaked to the police ?
    That fucking mosque is spouting the terrorists handbook daily, Mohammad said he was victorious by terror, they are all in it together to a greater or lesser extent.

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    it would seem that in spite of the drivel spouted by left wing fools, our soldiers, bombs and drones have very little to do with the terror attacks upon the west, and eshould the bombs and drones stop tomorrow, the terror attacks would not, because this is all about islam, an extreme version granted, but islam nevertheless, and a version whose existence is, thanks to the silence and inactivity of the moderate muslims in the west, tacitly swept under the carpet and unchallenged.

    the canny amongst us have known this from the beginning, but for those at the back who have trouble keeping up, do read this from "dabiq", the mouthpiece of IS, issue 15, "breaking the cross", pages 30 -34.


    1. We hate you, first and foremost, because you
    are disbelievers;

    you reject the oneness of Allah –
    whether you realize it or not – by making partners
    for Him in worship, you blaspheme against Him,
    claiming that He has a son, you fabricate lies against
    His prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all
    manner of devilish practices.

    It is for this reason that
    we were commanded to openly declare our hatred for
    you and our enmity towards you. “There has already
    been for you an excellent example in Abraham and
    those with him, when they said to their people, ‘Indeed,
    we are disassociated from you and from whatever
    you worship other than Allah. We have rejected
    you, and there has arisen, between us and you, enmity
    and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone’”
    (Al-Mumtahanah 4).

    Furthermore, just as your disbelief
    is the primary reason we hate you, your disbelief
    is the primary reason we fight you, as we have
    been commanded to fight the disbelievers until they
    submit to the authority of Islam, either by becoming
    Muslims, or by paying jizyah – for those afforded this
    option – and living in humiliation under the rule of
    the Muslims.




    Thus, even if you were to stop fighting
    us, your best-case scenario in a state of war would be
    that we would suspend our attacks against you – if we
    deemed it necessary – in order to focus on the closer
    and more immediate threats, before eventually resuming
    our campaigns against you.

    Apart from the option
    of a temporary truce, this is the only likely scenario
    that would bring you fleeting respite from our attacks.
    So in the end, you cannot bring an indefinite halt to
    our war against you. At most, you could only delay it
    temporarily. “And fight them until there is no fitnah
    [paganism] and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah”
    (Al-Baqarah 193).

    2. We hate you because your secular, liberal societies
    permit the very things that Allah has prohibited
    while banning many of the things He has permitted,
    a matter that doesn’t concern you because you
    Christian disbelief and paganism
    separate between religion and state, thereby granting
    supreme authority to your whims and desires via the
    legislators you vote into power. In doing so, you desire
    to rob Allah of His right to be obeyed and you wish to
    usurp that right for yourselves.

    “Legislation is not but
    for Allah” (Yusuf 40).

    Your secular liberalism has led
    you to tolerate and even support “gay rights,” to allow
    alcohol, drugs, fornication, gambling, and usury to
    become widespread, and to encourage the people to
    mock those who denounce these filthy sins and vices.
    As such, we wage war against you to stop you from
    spreading your disbelief and debauchery – your secularism
    and nationalism, your perverted liberal values,
    your Christianity and atheism – and all the depravity
    and corruption they entail. You’ve made it your mission
    to “liberate” Muslim societies; we’ve made it our
    mission to fight off your influence and protect mankind
    from your misguided concepts and your deviant
    way of life.

    3. In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you
    and wage war against you because you disbelieve in
    the existence of your Lord and Creator. You witness
    the extraordinarily complex makeup of created beings,
    and the astonishing and inexplicably precise physical
    laws that govern the entire universe, but insist that
    they all came about through randomness and that one
    should be faulted, mocked, and ostracized for recognizing
    that the astonishing
    signs we witness day after day
    are the creation of the Wise,
    All-Knowing Creator and not
    the result of accidental occurrence.
    “Or were they created
    by nothing, or were they the
    creators [of themselves]?” (AtTur
    35). Your disbelief in your
    Creator further leads you to
    deny the Day of Judgment,
    claiming that “you only live
    once.” “Those who disbelieve
    have claimed that they will never
    be resurrected. Say, ‘Yes, by
    my Lord, you will surely be resurrected;
    then you will surely
    be informed of what you did.
    And that, for Allah, is easy’”
    (At-Taghabun 7).


    4. We hate you for your
    crimes against Islam and wage
    war against you to punish you
    for your transgressions against our religion. As long as
    your subjects continue to mock our faith, insult the
    prophets of Allah – including Noah, Abraham, Moses,
    Jesus, and Muhammad  – burn the Quran, and
    openly vilify the laws of the Shari’ah, we will continue
    to retaliate, not with slogans and placards, but with
    bullets and knives.


    5. We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims;
    your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and
    maim our people around the world, and your puppets
    in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture,
    and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth.
    As such, we fight you to stop you from killing our
    men, women, and children, to liberate those of them
    whom you imprison and torture, and to take revenge
    for the countless Muslims who’ve suffered as a result
    of your deeds.

    6. We hate you for invading our lands and fight
    you to repel you and drive you out. As long as there
    is an inch of territory left for us to reclaim, jihad will
    continue to be a personal obligation on every single
    Muslim.


    What’s important to understand here is that although
    some might argue that your foreign policies
    are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular
    reason for hating you is secondary, hence the
    reason we addressed it at the end of the above list.

    The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning
    us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our
    lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary
    reason for hating you will not cease to exist until
    you embrace Islam.

    Even if you were to pay jizyah
    and live under the authority of Islam in humiliation,
    we would continue to hate you. No doubt, we would
    stop fighting you then as we would stop fighting any
    disbelievers who enter into a covenant with us, but we
    would not stop hating you.

    What’s equally if not more important to understand
    is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter
    you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and
    salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved
    to your whims and desires as well as those of your
    clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshiping
    your Creator alone and following His messenger.

    We fight you in order to bring you out from the darkness
    of disbelief and into the light of Islam, and to liberate
    you from the constraints of living for the sake of the
    worldly life alone so that you may enjoy both the blessings
    of the worldly life and the bliss of the Hereafter.

    The gist of the matter is that there is indeed a rhyme
    to our terrorism, warfare, ruthlessness, and brutality.
    As much as some liberal journalist would like you to
    believe that we do what we do because we’re simply
    monsters with no logic behind our course of action,
    the fact is that we continue to wage – and escalate –
    a calculated war that the West thought it had ended
    several years ago.


    We continue dragging you further
    and further into a swamp you thought you’d already
    escaped only to realize that you’re stuck even deeper
    within its murky waters… And we do so while offering
    you a way out on our terms. So you can continue
    to believe that those “despicable terrorists” hate
    you because of your lattes and your Timberlands, and
    continue spending ridiculous amounts of money to
    try to prevail in an unwinnable war, or you can accept
    reality and recognize that we will never stop hating
    you until you embrace Islam, and will never stop fighting
    you until you’re ready to leave the swamp of warfare
    and terrorism through the exits we provide, the
    very exits put forth by our Lord for the People of the
    Scripture: Islam, jizyah, or – as a last means of fleeting
    respite – a temporary truce.
    an open door refugee policy, a la merkel, and the blinkered politically correct response to terror with little in the way of targeted profiling ( "oh, its nothing to do with islam, they are all lovely people you fucking racist bastard for even thinking of criticising them") will ensure that there will be many more manchesters, brussels, paris and nices in the future.

    when will our politicians man up and face the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    it would seem that in spite of the drivel spouted by left wing fools, our soldiers, bombs and drones have very little to do with the terror attacks upon the west,
    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile
    We hate you for your crimes against the Muslims; your drones and fighter jets bomb, kill, and maim our people around the world,
    Not a bad idea to read things before you post them.

    More generally, people usuallly have very, very little insight into their own motivations. Is it likely that some ISIS fuckwit is going to buck the trend? I don't think so. Linguistic analysis of, amongst other things, Inspire magazine (the ISIS monthly glossy - it's interesting reading, though illegal to download in Britain), shows that the appeal is much more to community than to religion.
    Last edited by Passing Through; 27-05-2017 at 04:58 PM.

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    You may find it interesting to hear that IS are now threatening to wipe out Palestinians for not being Muslim enough.

    This isn't about mosques, it's about a certain group of rabid individuals who are very easily programmed.

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    Not a bad idea to read things before you post them.
    and if you had read the complete article, you would have seen this


    What’s equally if not more important to understand
    is that we fight you, not simply to punish and deter
    you, but to bring you true freedom in this life and
    salvation in the Hereafter, freedom from being enslaved
    to your whims and desires as well as those of your
    clergy and legislatures, and salvation by worshiping
    your Creator alone and following His messenger.

    We fight you in order to bring you out from the darkness
    of disbelief and into the light of Islam, and to liberate
    you from the constraints of living for the sake of the
    worldly life alone so that you may enjoy both the blessings
    of the worldly life and the bliss of the Hereafter.

    The gist of the matter is that there is indeed a rhyme
    to our terrorism, warfare, ruthlessness, and brutality.
    As much as some liberal journalist would like you to
    believe that we do what we do because we’re simply
    monsters with no logic behind our course of action,
    the fact is that we continue to wage – and escalate –
    a calculated war that the West thought it had ended
    several years ago.

    What’s important to understand here is that although
    some might argue that your foreign policies
    are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular
    reason for hating you is secondary, hence the
    reason we addressed it at the end of the above list.

    their reasons are ideological, and like hitler, they cannot be reasoned with or placated by truces or forgiveness. in their book there is nothing to forgive for they are only spreading their beliefs.

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    ^^ Of course I read it, you stupid fucking twat. What do you think 'secondary' means? And for bonus points, what do you think the relationship is between my post and the content of the text you quoted? Fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    The senior figures from the bomber's mosque have gone to the police offering any help they can and volunteering to be questioned.
    Their help would have been much appreciated before the attack.
    Come to think of it...has there ever been some kind of information leaked to the police ?
    That fucking mosque is spouting the terrorists handbook daily, Mohammad said he was victorious by terror, they are all in it together to a greater or lesser extent.
    Been there, have you?
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    probably describes the type of idiocy you seem to be suffering from.

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