Thread: The Teak Door Christian Crusades of Arabia Megathread

Originally Posted by ENT

and destabilized more countries than any other nation in history while achieving nothing substantial through such means, except increased orders for its armaments industry.

Those weapons have to be field tested before being sold.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

i'm saying that the u.k. should work with trump to support assad/russia to end the civil war, so they can go back to syria.

That would be the stupidest thing UK could do.

because the uk should want to watch their ally "achieve more destruction"?

Originally Posted by ENT

USA's never achieved anything through warfare, except destruction.

not sure that's a good reason to oppose these ideas:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

1. join up with trump to put pressure on israel to give up land for peace.

2. the uk supports assad to end the war in syria and the end of isis in syria.

3. all the refugees go back to syria and the africans/others who sneaked in on the same boats get sent back to their countries, too.

4. isis loses its base in syria and iraq and is left with an internet campaign promising riches and virgins in heaven for those who blow up infidels (basically lose credibility as their caliphate aint gonna happen).

5. the us/uk intelligence services have become rich with money and resources since 911 and should keep on their toes, as it were.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

1. join up with trump to put pressure on israel to give up land for peace.

2. the uk supports assad to end the war in syria and the end of isis in syria.

1. Not going to happen.

2. Not going to happen.

why aren't they going to happen, IYO?

Purely my humble opinion,

1. Trump is to "Jewish" to ask them to give up any land, even if they would listen to him. The chances of Isreal giving up anything they fought so hard for are minimal.

2. Ask ENT.

UK's sitting on the fence over that one, gives lip service to USA in its efforts to bomdafwk outa Syria to "liberate" Kurds and other minorities, but won't take war to the land.
A pity both US and UK didn't "liberate" the Kurds when they had the chance after their invasion of Iraq.
Too greedy for the oil the Kurds were sitting on.

Originally Posted by ENT

As for the millions of protesters marching through the streets against the Iraq war, I must have missed that one

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq

The 2003 invasion of Iraq lasted from 20 March to 1 May 2003 and signalled the start of the Iraq War, which was dubbed Operation Iraqi Freedom by the United States

Historical anti-war protest in London: 15 February 2003:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

i'm saying that the u.k. should work with trump to support assad/russia to end the civil war, so they can go back to syria.

That would be the stupidest thing UK could do.

because the uk should want to watch their ally "achieve more destruction"?

Nope, It'd be a good idea to let America shoot itself in the foot at this time in history,...it's doing a good job of it right now with Trump in the lead,....progress,...just give it time.

Originally Posted by ENT

USA's never achieved anything through warfare, except destruction.

not sure that's a good reason to oppose these ideas:

Are you a suicidal and homicidal maniac?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

1. join up with trump to put pressure on israel to give up land for peace.

There'd be nothing left of Israel if that happened

2. the uk supports assad to end the war in syria and the end of isis in syria.

Daydreams, mate. ISIS is already doing deals with Assad and Erdogan to pipe oil through Syria to Turkey. Knock that gang of pirates out and they'll just reform under another name, claiming jihad and indulging in ritual human sacrifice to their moon god as usual.

3. all the refugees go back to syria and the africans/others who sneaked in on the same boats get sent back to their countries, too.

Lovely idea if it could be done, but the Islamists will be there to great them to another round of sacrifices in the name of allah.

4. isis loses its base in syria and iraq and is left with an internet campaign promising riches and virgins in heaven for those who blow up infidels (basically lose credibility as their caliphate aint gonna happen).

5. the us/uk intelligence services have become rich with money and resources since 911 and should keep on their toes, as it were.

The US intelligence services maybe, UK Intel aren't a semi-autonomous body to be able to make any income or profit at all.

^^ There ain't no millions there, mate.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

of course, the politicians in europe should have listened to the millions of protesters who marched in the streets of europe

^^ There ain't no millions there, mate.

i was talking about europe in general and of course, making the point that millions of europeans could see more clearly than their leaders that invading iraq was a bad idea and there were many predictions at the time that it could lead to instability in the region, rather than the "cake walk" wolfowitz was talking about.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by ENT

and destabilized more countries than any other nation in history while achieving nothing substantial through such means, except increased orders for its armaments industry.

Those weapons have to be field tested before being sold.

That's how it goes, same as in WW 1 and 2.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

1. join up with trump to put pressure on israel to give up land for peace.

There'd be nothing left of Israel if that happened

well, then, i'm sorry to tell you that you're on board with the neo-cons as they say the same.

Don't be sorry, it's the truth.

if israel had given up land for peace, the neo-cons wouldn't have gone crazy with their PNAC and CLEAN BREAK plans which were developed before 911 and led to the iraq war and the situation now in the uk with you talking about this:

If Israel had done that there would have been no peace, only more war, as the Muslim's avowed intent is to completely destroy Israel, by fair means or foul,....so stop kidding yourself.

Originally Posted by ENT

Trench and bollard systems work, if the bollards are dragons teeth types, sunk 3 ft into the ground with a projecting 3 ft pyramidal upper portion

And?

Originally Posted by ENT

as the Muslim's avowed intent is to completely destroy Israel, by fair means or foul,

sounds like a defeatist attitude and understand why you wish to build tiny walls on roads or whatever you're talking about.

Originally Posted by ENT

Trench and bollard systems work, if the bollards are dragons teeth types, sunk 3 ft into the ground with a projecting 3 ft pyramidal upper portion

What's more pressing in My life that's more important than the Israel argument, is that I still have to get through the funerals of the Manchester bombing.

Originally Posted by wasabi

What's more pressing in My life that's more important than the Israel argument, is that I still have to get through the funerals of the Manchester bombing.

yes, but what prevents the "next one"?

Originally Posted by wasabi

What's more pressing in My life that's more important than the Israel argument, is that I still have to get through the funerals of the Manchester bombing.

Eh? Are you going to all of them?

The night-shift mod will be busy tonight!!

she's out on the piss I heard in CM

Originally Posted by Neverna

The night-shift mod will be busy tonight!!

Now, now. Shed a tear for poor old Wasabi. He has to get through all those funerals. can anyone have been more affected by this terrible atrocity than this poor man? Wasabi must shoulder the pain of a nation all by himself. God bless him, what a hero!

Originally Posted by Neverna

The night-shift mod will be busy tonight!!

;-)

ooh, guess we should be updating this thread with news about the victims and the suspects like the kids do with their facebook posts.

no debate/discussion here?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Well it is a news thread and you lot have strayed waaaaaay off topic. There are plenty of other threads to debate/discuss your various different obsessions in.

in real life, discussions go in different directions and then someone brings up the latest news (victims, suspects) and it's discussed and then the conversation goes in different directions (again).

shouldn't threads be like that? rather than mods deleting posts to keep the conversation superficial and "on topic"?

dr bob, if you'd like to post the latest news on the suspects or victims, please do.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Well it is a news thread and you lot have strayed waaaaaay off topic. There are plenty of other threads to debate/discuss your various different obsessions in.

in real life, discussion go in different directions and then someone brings up the latest news (victims, suspects) and it's discussed and then the conversation goes in different directions (again).

shouldn't threads be like that? rather than mods deleting posts to keep the conversation superficial and "on topic"?

What you describe is not a discussion, it's just people rambling. As I said, there are plenty of other places on the forum for that. It's not like we're short of Muslims are bad/not bad threads, is it? This is the news forum and while discussion is allowed some attempt to keep it on topic would be welcome.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by ENT

as the Muslim's avowed intent is to completely destroy Israel, by fair means or foul,

sounds like a defeatist attitude and understand why you wish to build tiny walls on roads or whatever you're talking about.

Originally Posted by ENT

Trench and bollard systems work, if the bollards are dragons teeth types, sunk 3 ft into the ground with a projecting 3 ft pyramidal upper portion

You're living in lalaland mate.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by Neverna

The night-shift mod will be busy tonight!!

;-)

ooh, guess we should be updating this thread with news about the victims and the suspects like the kids do with their facebook posts.

no debate/discussion here?

Well it is a news thread and you lot have strayed waaaaaay off topic. There are plenty of other threads to debate/discuss your various different obsessions in.

You're right. I'll try to behave.