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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    right but it all adds to the fun.
    Sadly that's all UK politics is these days.

    I suspect a huge amount of interest in the last few days as both sides try to capitalize on opportunities created by the media.

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    ISIL must be pro-May, their attack last night has probably increased the Tory lead by at least 5%, given the perception among many that having ' strong tables ' is safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    The manifesto was very disappointing with vacillating ideas on the way forward.
    While labour's is their best in decades!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    While labour's is their best in decades!
    If only there was an economy that could afford it?

    Seriously, if someone did a straw poll, the electorate would vote for a half tory half Labour manifesto.
    What a pity the Liberals are in such disarray and confusion.

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    The Theresa May effect


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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    While labour's is their best in decades!
    If only there was an economy that could afford it?

    Seriously, if someone did a straw poll, the electorate would vote for a half tory half Labour manifesto.
    What a pity the Liberals are in such disarray and confusion.
    Given the shift from money-supply economics to the current model, such fears are no longer justified. Issuing bonds as government debt and QE are now legitimate mechanisms to fund growth and to stimulate consumer led demand.
    There is now no restraint as such except the perception that debt shouldn't double GDP but even then the only consequence is a devaluation of currency.
    Stagflation, the consequence of Brexit as already demonstrated, is much worse and given that Corbyn etc are not inclined to sacrifice trade for barring all EU migration it is likely that GDP will not suffer if he wins.

    In truth, if one is interested in the economic health of the country then Corbyn is the man. Strange world we live in now, voting Tory is a disaster but Labour, with its regeneration of infrastructure , proper funding of services and the increasing of salaries for the public sector, and the lifting of the tax burden off the poor, is the better choice.

    Certainly, we would look forward to greater numbers of police and a return to the safer levels that prevailed before the barren bitch May got her claws on the police budgets.

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    With such a large variation between polls it is difficult to predict any swing,let alone the result. Another poll around the same time gave the Tories an 11% advantage.
    Perhaps it's an attempt to get a higher turnout and increase the Tory majority. One thing is for sure, PM May is not as strong a leader as she thought.

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    The notion that May represented strength is a fucking illusion, a bit of Tory PR. She's a one-trick, obdurate, clapped out nag and shill for the complacent, ill-informed, bigoted and prejudiced middle classes who don't want to honour their social obligations and who are the bedrock of her supporters.

    Taxexile is her archetypal tit-licker and salivates at the prospect of rimming her anal fissures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    She's a one-trick, obdurate, clapped out nag and shill for the complacent, ill-informed, bigoted and prejudiced middle classes who don't want to honour their social obligations and who are the bedrock of her supporters.
    Unfortunately a winning formula for victory these days.

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    I will be voting Conservative on Thursday and I will be backing a winner. Hooray for me !

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    Diane Abbott - Prize Clown

    This is the woman who is the Shadow Home Secretary. Anybody who wants to vote for this woman is daft.












    It is shameful to think that she is a Member of Parliament. She also had an affair with Jeremy Corbyn and this illustrates a clear lack of judgement on his part.

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    On Radio 4 on Women's hour Diane Abbott was to appear on the morning show but phoned in sick.
    Behind the scenes her Labour Party are stopping her from being interviewed.

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    She is fookin grim. Do her and Corbyn really think they can run the country?

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    aunt jemima, what a disgrace to humanity.

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    I think Abbot's getting dementia. She certainly talks as if she is.

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    In the interests of balanced and reasoned comment........


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    Predictions for tomorrow anyone?

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    I predict that tomorrow voters will arrive at polling stations and cast their votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    In the interests of balanced and reasoned comment........

    Paxman rips the urine out of her.


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    It's been interesting watching these reports over the last few weeks.

    The same guy also did a really good segment on the Stoke on Trent by-election.


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    ^Labour candidate. "Im a nurse not a politician".

    Smart idea.

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    The thing is, Brexit simply proves the point, Britain has an awful lot of silly cvunts.

    Voting for May is stupid, not because of her incompetence over security, not because of an ideological difference over public ownership, but because she and her henchmen are compounding the Brexit financial disaster and capitalising on its innate racism, discrimination, bigotry and prejudice.

    This is a bad Tory party, its now the party of not only cvunts, but incompetent cvunts and led by a mediocrity only distinguished by being a desiccated, barren, nasty and vindictive cvunt.

    I voted for Cameron and the Tories twice before, he was committed to Europe as indeed was Osborne, but this crew are simply shit, xenophobic cvunts and are about to fuck us all with their cuntiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    Britain has an awful lot of silly cvunts.
    Have the same problem on my side of the pond. May is a goof but I would gladly trade you Trump for her.

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    Vote for Corbyn and the terrorists win.

    All hail Comrade Corbyn – I recognise greatness when I see it

    Toby Young

    Comrades. I’m going to tell you why I think Jeremy Corbyn is the right person to lead this country. First of all, I like the fact that he’s not a typical politician. There’s something refreshing about his refusal to play the media’s game. Ordinary politicians are ready with a quote when a big story breaks, but not our Jeremy. He thinks nothing of switching off his phone and spending the day working on his allotment. Instead of talking to journalists on his way into meetings, he runs them over. When he does do interviews, his refusal to be interrupted speaks of a bold, confident leader who’s comfortable in his own skin. I particularly like his catchphrase and the way his voice goes all high-pitched when he says it: ‘Can I finish?’

    Secondly, he’s a man of principle. He has stuck doggedly to his brand of hard-left politics for more than 50 years. The fact that this credo has been an unmitigated disaster in every country in which it has been tried, leading to the suppression of free speech, the imprisonment of political dissidents and mass starvation, hasn’t led to the slightest sliver of doubt or one jot of revision. John Maynard Keynes said: ‘When the facts change, I change my mind’, but not Jeremy. He is as steadfast and reliable as a stopped clock. That’s the kind of man I want as the head of our government in a fast-moving world.

    Thirdly, his grasp of international affairs is second to none. He has been on the right side of every major foreign policy issue, starting with the Falklands War, which he correctly identified as a ‘Tory plot’. He opposed the Nato intervention in Kosovo and dismissed as a ‘fabrication’ the absurd claim that the war crimes committed by Slobodan Milosevic amounted to genocide. Indeed, he believes Nato should have been ‘wound up’ after the end of the Cold War, which, like his chief of staff Seumas Milne, he thinks was won by the wrong side. He isn’t so weak-minded that he imagines Nato has any useful role to play in containing Russian aggression and has condemned Britain’s plans to send 800 troops to Estonia as a ‘provocation’.

    Whether it’s Vladimir Putin or General Galtieri, Corbyn can always be relied upon to side with Britain’s enemies, never allowing his judgment to be clouded by jingoism. He is particularly sound when it comes to so-called ‘terror’ groups, which he sees through the lens of the anti-imperialist ‘liberation’ movements of the 1960s and 1970s. In this context, it is perfectly understandable that he invited representatives of the IRA to have tea at the House of Commons a few days after it tried to kill Maggie Thatcher in the Brighton bombing.

    And we shouldn’t hold it against him that he was on the editorial board of a socialist newspaper when it mocked Norman Tebbit, who had to be dug out of the rubble, saying: ‘Try riding your bike now, Norman.’ Brilliant! No one can accuse Jezza of not having a sense of humour.

    When it comes to Islamist groups, he is a breath of fresh air. Don’t expect the usual, knee-jerk response to the cold-blooded murder of innocent women and children from him. He courageously decided to appear on Iranian state television, for which he was paid several thousand pounds, to condemn the killing of Osama bin Laden as a ‘tragedy’ and has frequently expressed his solidarity with Hamas and Hezbollah in their ‘armed struggle’ against Israeli ‘colonialism’. As for Isis, he told Andrew Marr he thinks ‘dialogue’ is the best way forward. ‘I think there has to be some understanding of where their strong points are,’ he explained.

    Which brings me to my fourth and final reason for hailing Jeremy Corbyn as the greatest political leader this country has ever seen: security. As his close colleague John McDonnell says, the way to keep Britain’s streets safe from knife-wielding Islamo-fascist psychopaths is to disarm the police. After all, we know just how much harm the police can do when they’re allowed to shoot to kill. As for the policy of nuclear deterrence, Jeremy is quite right to reject it. In an increasingly dangerous world, we should do whatever we can to lower the temperature, including disbanding MI5 and MI6.

    Comrades, I urge you to recognise greatness when you see it. This 68-year-old manhole enthusiast is the prophet we’ve been waiting for. Our children will judge us according to how we judged Jeremy Corbyn.
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/06/...when-i-see-it/

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