Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

**Maanaam** · 20-12-2018, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by tomcat

...let's hope that fury spreads to other judges...

Lets hope it spreads to the flag-waving redneck base.

**tomcat** · 20-12-2018, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Lets hope it spreads to the flag-waving redneck base.

...doubtful: blind as they are to tRump's obvious faults...

**Maanaam** · 20-12-2018, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by tomcat

...doubtful: blind as they are to tRump's obvious faults...

Indeed, but there's surely a few hand-on-heart patriots that will turn once words like "traitor" get bandied around.

**Dragonfly** · 20-12-2018, 12:08 PM

did you guys really read the article?

the judge was disgusted by Flynn actions, but he has also said that the FBI had "entrapped" him for the guilty plea and for that he was thinking of rejecting the plea bargain, because he thought he was innocent of lying to the FBI.

No jail time. No wonder you guys got it all wong with that investigation real purpose

**Dragonfly** · 20-12-2018, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Cujo

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...van-sentencing

was he disgusted by Flynn talking to the FBI without cause, and being a traitor to the POTUS? anyway, he claims he thinks Flynn is not really guilty for lying to the FBI over a simple informal chat, so he is thinking of rejecting the plea bargain

this is a serious blowback to the Mueller and FBI case, because it means they are strong arming their witnesses to extract information, and they are abusing their power for people they claimed abused their own power

another case of 2 standards hypocrisy by the Americans, so typical of them

**bsnub** · 20-12-2018, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

but he has also said that the FBI had "entrapped" him for the guilty plea and for that he was thinking of rejecting the plea bargain, because he thought he was innocent of lying to the FBI.

He didn't say anything even close to that you wack job. More like this....

Sullivan also quickly clamped down on any suggestion that Flynn’s admitted crime – lying to federal investigators – had occurred in part because the retired general had been lulled into thinking his interview with the FBI was simply a chat, and not part of a criminal investigation.
Never in his decades on the bench, Sullivan said, had he accepted a guilty plea from a defendant who was not really guilty. “I don’t intend to start today,” Sullivan said, and then had Flynn sworn in. “Any false answers will get you in more trouble,” he added.

Clearly English comprehension is not your strong suit.

**Dragonfly** · 20-12-2018, 01:36 PM

ok so would you care to translate this for me, and tell me exactly what it is then

Never in his decades on the bench, Sullivan said, had he accepted a guilty plea from a defendant who was not really guilty. “I don’t intend to start today,” Sullivan said, and then had Flynn sworn in. “Any false answers will get you in more trouble,” he added.

**Dragonfly** · 20-12-2018, 01:39 PM

and don't forget to translate this part too, because I don't read it the same as you do, and since you have a tendency to read more in statements than any other American loons here, maybe you can enlighten me, my dear bi-polar delusional American friend

Sullivan also quickly clamped down on any suggestion that Flynn’s admitted crime – lying to federal investigators – had occurred in part because the retired general had been lulled into thinking his interview with the FBI was simply a chat, and not part of a criminal investigation.

**bsnub** · 20-12-2018, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

ok so would you care to translate this for me, and tell me exactly what it is then

His plea has has been accepted you moron the judge was just affirming the fact that he knew Flynn was guilty. Like I said English comprehension is not your strong suit.

The only thing in question now is whether or not Flynn goes to prison.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-12-2018, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

He didn't say anything even close to that you wack job. More like this....

Clearly English comprehension is not your strong suit.

It's Buttplug. He's not very bright you know.

Flynn has openly admitted that he was not duped and he knew exactly what he was doing. He's been singing like a canary just to get a light sentence.

**SKkin** · 20-12-2018, 04:45 PM

The Year of Putin-Nazi Paranoia, by C.J. Hopkins - The Unz Review

Twitter started sending out scary emails warning customers that there was “reason to believe” that they had “followed,” “retweeted,” or “liked the content of” accounts “connected to a propaganda effort by a Russian government-linked organization.” Facebook launched its own Ministry of Truth, manned by “a dedicated counter-terrorism team” of “former intelligence and law-enforcement officials” (also known as The Atlantic Council, NATO’s unofficial propaganda wing). Google stepped up its covert deranking of insufficiently Russia-hating and other “non-authoritative” websites.

This Orwellian corporate censorship campaign was enthusiastically welcomed by liberals and other Russia-and-Trump-obsessives, who by this time were already completely convinced that secret Russian Facebook agents were conspiring to transform the Western masses into zombified, Russia-loving neo-Nazis by means of some sort of irresistible Putin-Nazi hypno-technology that would melt their brains to oatmeal the second they clicked on one of those dancing cat GIFs.

**Dragonfly** · 20-12-2018, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

His plea has has been accepted you moron the judge was just affirming the fact that he knew Flynn was guilty. Like I said English comprehension is not your strong suit.

The only thing in question now is whether or not Flynn goes to prison.

it was not accepted yet, according to your article

you must have missed the last sentence, you short attention span bi-polar loon

"he would take the delay and thereby possibly avoid a harsher sentence."

**thailazer** · 20-12-2018, 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=bsnub;3875281]He didn't say anything even close to that you wack job. More like this....

I run into many wack jobs like that here in the USA. They watch Fox, usually have no college education. They drink in the koolaid hook, line, and sinker. The education system in the USA has completely failed with this kind of person. They don't even try to see the truth.

**harrybarracuda** · 20-12-2018, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by thailazer

I run into many wack jobs like that here in the USA. They watch Fox, usually have no college education. They drink in the koolaid hook, line, and sinker. The education system in the USA has completely failed with this kind of person. They don't even try to see the truth.

They certainly aren't the only country that rely on keeping a mainly dumb as shit population thick.

**tomcat** · 21-12-2018, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by thailazer

The education system in the USA has completely failed with this kind of person

...I suspect many of them are suffering from bone spurs...

**bsnub** · 21-12-2018, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

it was not accepted yet, according to your article

You really are pathetically stupid.

**Dragonfly** · 21-12-2018, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

You really are pathetically stupid.

maybe if you stopped drinking, and read news on Trump in a sober state, you wouldn't miss the important part of the article

**Norton** · 21-12-2018, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by tomcat

...I suspect many of them are suffering from bone head spurs...

FIFY....

**bsnub** · 21-12-2018, 05:27 PM

^^ You are dumb and clearly do not understand what the judge was implying. This judge excoriated Flynn you moron. The reason for the delay is only because he was making it clear that he thinks that Flynn deserves to go to prison. That is it.

Maybe you should stick to things you understand like buttplugs.

**Dragonfly** · 21-12-2018, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

^^ You are dumb and clearly do not understand what the judge was implying. This judge excoriated Flynn you moron. The reason for the delay is only because he was making it clear that he thinks that Flynn deserves to go to prison. That is it.

Maybe you should stick to things you understand like buttplugs.

you clearly read things sideways, you bi-polar loon, that's not what the judge said, he tried to be balanced in his decision. Didn't want a plea bargain if he tought that Flynn was "entrapped", and didn't want to rush his decisions after he got mad with Flynn actions. He clearly hinted that waiting was the best option to avoid a harsh sentence from him immediately.

You are just fooking retarded beyond belief, and in par with everything else with your silly arguments here about the whole investigation

you are clearly broken in the head, you drunken fool

**bsnub** · 21-12-2018, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Didn't want a plea bargain if he tought that Flynn was "entrapped"

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

You are just fooking retarded beyond belief

Nope. Dig yourself deeper you utter imbecile. The judge never not even for a second thought that Flynn was entrapped in fact he thought the opposite and even said so. Feel free to keep making yourself look like an utter buffoon.

**Dragonfly** · 22-12-2018, 12:37 AM

like I said, try to be sober before posting shit that you clearly don't understand, you bi-polar loon

**Cujo** · 24-12-2018, 04:41 PM

Be interesting if Trump tries to quash/ suppress publication of Muellers report.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-final-report
Schiff will use subpoena powers if Trump quashes final Mueller report

Incoming House intelligence chair says he would do all in his power to make report of inquiry into collusion with Russia public

Incoming House intelligence chair Adam Schiff plans to use his subpoena powers to fight the Trump administration, should it attempt to keep secret the final report of the investigation into collusion with Russia.

Schiff told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday he would do all in his power to make the final report by special counsel Robert Mueller open to public scrutiny, whatever efforts are taken by Donald Trump to squash it.

“I’m prepared to make sure we do everything possible so that the public has the advantage of as much of the information as it can,” Schiff said. “This case is too important to keep from the American people.”
Under the rules governing special counsel investigations, Trump’s appointment in charge of the Mueller investigation, acting attorney general Matt Whitaker, is under no obligation to make the final report public or even show it to Congress. Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has threatened that the White House might use executive power to block elements of the report from seeing the light of day.
But the White House will now have a formidable opponent, once Schiff becomes chairman of the House intelligence committee on 3 January. His pledge to use his powers to wrestle the Mueller findings into the public domain sets the stage for a fierce legal battle.
Mueller is looking into whether there was collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign during the 2016 presidential election, and whether Trump tried to obstruct justice by asking the then FBI director James Comey to go easy on the former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
It is not known how close Mueller is to completing his investigation. But there have been indications it might be within the next few months, at which point he would send his report to his boss, the attorney general.
The question of what happens to the final Mueller report has been given added urgency given recent revelations about prevailing attitudes in the attorney general’s office. According to CNN, Trump has had face-to-face rows with Whitaker on at least two occasions, in which the president expressed his anger that Whitaker was not doing enough to rein in federal investigators.

CNN said Trump was “venting” about legal investigations he believes are unfair to him.
Schiff said on Sunday discussions between the US president and the acting head of the justice department over a case that implicated the president himself would be “wrong on every level”.

Matt Whitaker will not recuse himself from Mueller investigation – reports

“It will taint anything that this acting attorney general does in the investigation,” he said. “This is a real assault on the rule of law.”
Schiff added: “This is exactly what we feared about Whitaker’s appointment – that he was picked not because he was qualified for the job, he really wasn’t, but because he was auditioning on TV talking down the Mueller investigation and about how he could privately cripple the investigation.”
It was reported this week that Whitaker had been advised to recuse himself from the Mueller investigation, on ethics grounds, but had rebuffed the advice.
Trump has indicated that he intends to replace Whitaker with a new permanent attorney general, William Barr. But that could also prove contentious in terms of Barr’s approach to the Mueller inquiry.
The Wall Street Journal last week uncovered an unsolicited memo written by Barr last June in which he expressed strong criticism of Mueller. Barr opined that Mueller’s reading of the law was “grossly irresponsible” and accused the special counsel of being an “overly-zealous prosecutor”.

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**misskit** · 28-12-2018, 03:41 AM

Another piece of the Steele Dossier looks true.

Cell signal puts Cohen outside Prague around time of purported Russian meeting

A mobile phone traced to President Donald Trump’s former lawyer and “fixer” Michael Cohen briefly sent signals ricocheting off cell towers in the Prague area in late summer 2016, at the height of the presidential campaign, leaving an electronic record to support claims that Cohen met secretly there with Russian officials, four people with knowledge of the matter say.

During the same period of late August or early September, electronic eavesdropping by an Eastern European intelligence agency picked up a conversation among Russians, one of whom remarked that Cohen was in Prague, two people familiar with the incident said.

The phone and surveillance data, which have not previously been disclosed, lend new credence to a key part of a former British spy’s dossier of Kremlin intelligence describing purported coordination between Trump’s campaign and Russia’s election meddling operation.

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/inv...#storylink=cpy

**raycarey** · 28-12-2018, 07:15 PM

^ i'm not sure what to think about this.

mcclatchy is very credible news agency, but cohen is adamantly denying it...and if the SDNY finds out he lied to them, he's going to spend a lot longer than 3 years in jail....quite possibly decades.

could it be a fake story planted by trump loyalists to discredit the media?

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