Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Strange how the deranged Rightwingers squeal 'Benghazi', when they should be squealing about Russia, Syria, Iraq & Libya. They are certainly not the answer, rather a part of the problem- and the Beltway just feeds off this ignorance, and sucks our blood in the process. Which is a fraction of other peoples blood spilt by their filthy, inept machinations. Go home Yankee.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Simple answer: they did.

The Obama administration became aware and levied sanctions against Russia. Russian officials met with Trump transition people to discuss these. That’s part of Mueller’s investigation.

How can you not be aware of these basic facts.

Trump supporters don't even try to find truth. They just watch Fox or drink the Breitbart Koolaid.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-election-hack

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Simple answer: they did.

The Obama administration became aware and levied sanctions against Russia. Russian officials met with Trump transition people to discuss these. That’s part of Mueller’s investigation.

How can you not be aware of these basic facts.

Not Not to only that but they expelled are very bunch of the house dogend Russian diplomats over the years the years it.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Not Not to only that but they expelled are very bunch of the house dogend Russian diplomats over the years the years it.

yeah but purple monkey dishwasher

Originally Posted by thailazer

Trump supporters don't even try to find truth. They just watch Fox or drink the Breitbart Koolaid.

Yup. They really do live in a world of their own alternative facts.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple question for you anti Trump conspiracy nutters, if the intelligence agencies new about Russian interference in the election and Obama was aware, why did they do nothing about it.

Laws in most countries [USA] included, accessory before or after the fact, if they knew a crime was being committed, then they are as guilty as those that commit the crime.

Either, after spending billion on listening to, not only US citizen, but most of the world, they miss a few hackers, or they knew.

To me, they knew, Obama took no action, meaning he was anti Clinton.

Know the people suffering from anti Trump mental illness will respond with I'm a idiot etc, send reds with fuk you.

So do you acknowledge the Russians interfered in the election?

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Know the people suffering from anti Trump mental illness will respond with I'm a idiot etc, send reds with fuk you.

And frankly deserved they would be too.

You expect any different from a post you opened with line of ad hominem and finished with alternative facts?

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Simple question for you anti Trump conspiracy nutters, if the intelligence agencies new about Russian interference in the election and Obama was aware, why did they do nothing about it.

To me, they knew, Obama took no action, meaning he was anti Clinton.

Do you actually realise that this is utter rubbish? Did you bother checking either of these two facts before you posted them?

Originally Posted by Humbert

You don't have to scratch very deep to discover that abortion is the only real issue many care about.

...that, moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and tRumpifying the Supreme Court...nothing else matters because these actions are what Jebus wants...

Roger Stone's hooker gets subpoenaed.......

'Ex Manhattan Madam,’ Kristin Davis, Expects Subpoena From Mueller

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/n...imes&smtyp=cur

FBI believed Trump campaign aide Carter Page was recruited by Russians

New documents show that one month before the 2016 elections, the FBI sought permission to surveil Carter Page, the one-time foreign policy adviser to the campaign of Donald Trump, because they alleged he had been recruited by the Russian government.

“The FBI believes the Russian government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with [Trump’s] campaign,” the application with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court said

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-...ry?id=56737033

^
trump and his supporters have been lying for over a year about the FBI surveillance and FISA warrant of carter page being based on the steele dossier.....but the reality is that the FBI was watching him because he's super fcuking sketchy.

in the end, i'd bet he eventually ends up in jail.

Originally Posted by sabang

. ‘They lied to me,’ Putin said bitterly of the United States. ‘I’ll never trust them again.’

Get in line(or queue for some) Vlad...

Thus, what we are seeing in the explosion of hostility towards the Trump-Putin summit is twofold. It is an American phenomenon, and secondly, it is an angst that animates only the political class in Washington and the news media corporations. This constituency, it is fair to say, is an elite faction within the US, albeit extremely powerful, made up of Washington politicos, the state intelligence apparatus, the corporate media and think tanks, and the deep state establishment of imperial planners and strategists. In short, this constituency is what some observers call the “War Party” that transcends the US ruling class.

Any reasonable person would have to welcome the friendly rapport engendered between Trump and Putin, and at least their initial commitment to working together on major matters of global security. The dangerous impasse of recent years in which dialogue was absent must be overcome for the sake of world peace.

Nevertheless, what has become crystal clear this week following the Helsinki summit is the “War Party” within the US is more determined than ever to sabotage any rapprochement with Russia.

Quote from here:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...rld-peace.html

Originally Posted by SKkin

Quote from here:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...rld-peace.html

Strategic Culture Foundation, a Moscow think tank run by Yuri Profokiev, a former head of Moscow’s Communist Party and member of the Soviet Politburo.

If anyone is curious go have a look around on the site. It is pure right wing propaganda. Some of the trash there;

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...fake-news.html

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...an-people.html

https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...rike-back.html

More trash from Skkin. Posting up a link to a Russian propaganda site. Typical.

...^in that case: forgiven...555...

^^ You are? I see you post trash like that all the time. So why are you blaming the booze tonight?

Originally Posted by bsnub

I see you post trash like that all the time

...*cough*...his problem may be bigger than you realize...

Originally Posted by tomcat

.his problem may be bigger than you realize...

...Or smaller....

Originally Posted by bsnub

If anyone is curious go have a look around on the site. It is pure right wing propaganda.

Right or left wing propaganda, what's particularly wrong in that quote?

Originally Posted by tomcat

^in that case: forgiven...555...

not me...see edit.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

what's particularly wrong in that quote

the truth hurts...talking about the War Party is not left or right, it's right or wrong.

The US War Party goes way back.

another well known right-winger. from 2016

§ Why is the war party so adamantly opposed to any cooperation with Russia anywhere in the world when it is so manifestly in US interests, as in Syria? Several considerations play a role. Among them, of major foreign leaders, only Russian President Putin has opposed the neocon/liberal interventionist aspiration of a new US-dominated “world order.” Hence their incessant demonizing of Putin as a suitable American partner. Still more, Russia’s return as an international great power, 20 years after the end of the Soviet Union, contradicts and offends the ideological premises of this aspiration. Another but-little-noted example is Moscow’s recent plan to mediate the decades-long Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is based on increasingly warm relations between Putin’s government and Israel. Any cooperation with Moscow would therefore validate the “resurgent Russia” phenomenon so resented by the American war party.

that quote from here:

https://www.thenation.com/article/wh...the-war-party/

Originally Posted by SKkin

Any reasonable person would have to welcome the friendly rapport engendered between Trump and Putin, and at least their initial commitment to working together on major matters of global security.

Could have been said about Nixon and Mao. Trump and Putin; any reasonable person would just call bs and roll their eyes.