Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Originally Posted by misskit

Mueller adds new tax, bank fraud charges against Manafort, Gates

Special counsel files new criminal case against pair in northern Virginia.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...t-gates-422335

News today states 30 Million USD laundered and it is detailed in quite a long indictment. Trump is next, but it will be a lot more than 30 million. Slowly slowly catchee monkey. Sure hope someone is watching Mueller's back.

Originally Posted by thailazer

Sure hope someone is watching Mueller's back.

There are 17 agencies on the job as we type. Not including the Putin patriots, those of the kneeling variety.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

trump's campaign staff that have ties to Russia and that have lied about them, have been indicted for money laundering with entities associated with Russia.

It's all a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's now to link trump to his campaign team colluding with Russia. It's going to be a slam dunk.

But he'll claim he was clueless.

And let's face it; he is.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But he'll claim he was clueless.

And let's face it; he is.

Substitute "unwittingly" and it works so much better on several different levels...

A few months back, somewhere on this thread, is a news report where Paul Ryan swore everyone in the room to secrecy after Republican Kevin McCarthy said he thought Russia paid two people, Trump and Rohrabacher.

Now look at this.



Pro-Russia GOP Congressman Features Prominently In Trump Aide’s Plea Document

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher has been interviewed by congressional investigators but not yet by special counsel Robert Mueller.

WASHINGTON ― The criminal information document released by special counsel Robert Mueller ahead of Trump campaign aide Rick Gates’ guilty plea on Friday contains prominent references to “a member of Congress” who met in 2013 with future Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and another lobbyist.

HuffPost has identified that member as Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.), a loudly pro-Russia lawmaker who has drawn the attention of Mueller and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.



MORE https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b03b55731bf427

More comes out of Rick Gates guilty plea that's spilling over into Europe.

New Manafort indictment alleges secret payments to European politicians

A new indictment has been unsealed in special counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal case against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.


The indictment was filed in mid-February and unsealed Friday, shortly after former Trump campaign aide Richard Gates pleaded guilty as part of Mueller’s sprawling investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.


The latest indictment accuses Manafort, with Gates’s help, of secretly retaining a group of former senior European politicians to take positions that were favorable to Ukraine as part of their illegal lobbying work for Kiev’s government. That work included lobbying in the United States.


“Although the former politicians would appear to be providing their independent assessments of Government of Ukraine actions, in fact they were paid lobbyists for Ukraine,” the indictment says.


Manafort wired more than $2 million from his offshore accounts to pay these former politicians, the indictment alleges.


MORE New Manafort indictment alleges secret payments to European politicians | TheHill

President Donald Trump's former campaign deputy Rick Gates pleaded guilty on Friday to fraud and lying, pledging to cooperate with Special Counsel Robert Mueller on his vast probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Gates was the third former Trump aide to agree to cooperate in exchange for reduced charges by Mueller, who is also examining Moscow's alleged collusion with the Trump campaign and whether the president illegally sought to obstruct his probe.
The plea deal in a Washington federal court, on charges much reduced from the original ones filed against Gates, immediately put him at odds with his former business partner and ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who refuses to bow to pressure from Mueller to strike a deal.

https://www.trtworld.com/americas/ex...nspiracy-15451

Manafort is screwed. I think he is lucky to still be living.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

trump's campaign staff that have ties to Russia and that have lied about them, have been indicted for money laundering with entities associated with Russia.

It's all a matter of dotting the i's and crossing the t's now to link trump to his campaign team colluding with Russia. It's going to be a slam dunk.

so, topper: are you with ray that trump will resign?

impeached and convicted in the senate?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by raycarey

resign this summer.

you really think trump is the kind of guy who would resign?

really?

doubt it

and doubt he'd be convicted in the senate (60 votes).

anyways, ray: you're looking forward to a president pence?

Remember the Devin Nunes memo accusing the FBI and DOJ of misconduct in obtaining a FISA warrant? Trump said the memo totally vindicated him. Of course, it did not.


The Dem's rebuttal memo has finally been released.


Read the Dems' rebuttal memo

https://www.axios.com/white-house-sl...84894af86.html

Originally Posted by misskit

Read the Dems' rebuttal memo

the dem memo tries hard to state that the fisa court didn't rely on the hillary/dnc-funded dodgy dossier.

though, apparently, the dem memo doesn't contradict one of the main points of the republican memo:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-with-reality

“Deputy Director McCabe testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,”

Ahem.

Top of page three of the document states the Steele dossier didn't reach the counter-intelligence team for more than seven weeks after the FBI opened the investigation. It also says the investigation on Page would have been continued without the dossier and even if the FISA warrant had no been approved.

Originally Posted by misskit

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

“Deputy Director McCabe testified before the committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information,”

Ahem.

Top of page three of the document states the Steele dossier didn't reach the counter-intelligence team for more than seven weeks after the FBI opened the investigation.

that doesn't negate mccabe's point about the importance of the dossier when going to the fisa court.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

that doesn't negate mccabe's point about the importance of the dossier when going to the fisa court.

Nor does it mean they eventually wouldn't have applied for and got a FISA warrant without it.

Mueller didn't issue 89 indictments last week because of the dossier. There is a massive steaming pile of shit being uncovered.

And so far none of it connects Trump to Russian collusion.

though, some can still wish that trump gets impeached/convicted and is replaced by pence.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

so far

indeed....and this investigation is only getting started.

and just out of curiosity repeater...why do you think the GOP changed its platform with regard to russia and ukraine during the convention?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

And so far none of what has been revealed connects Trump to Russian collusion.

FTFY.

Two years later patiently waiting,three years later patiently waiting,five years later patiently waiting,etc.ect.ect..

Originally Posted by raycarey

just out of curiosity repeater...why do you think the GOP changed its platform with regard to russia and ukraine during the convention?

Not sure but along the same line why did Obama decide not to give Ukrain weapons,against the advice of his top European advisors?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Two years later patiently waiting,three years later patiently waiting,five years later patiently waiting,etc.ect.ect..

You don't really keep up with the news, do you?

Maybe not the fake news you follow