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    yes people doing business together, very very curious

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    Carter Page’s testimony is filled with bombshells — and supports key portions of the Steele dossier

    • The House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page’s testimony before the panel last week. Some of the testimony supports details contained in what’s become known as the Steele dossier. Page revealed that he had met with Russian government officials and a top official at a state-owned oil giant during a 2016 trip to Moscow.

    The House Intelligence Committee on Monday released the full transcript of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page’s testimony before the panel last week, portions of which support details in an explosive collection of memos outlining alleged collusion between the campaign and Moscow during the election.


    Page revealed during his testimony that he met with both members of Russia’s presidential administration and with the head of investor relations at the state-owned Russian oil giant Rosneft during his trip to Moscow last July.


    He also congratulated members of the Trump campaign’s foreign policy team on July 14 for their “excellent work” on the “Ukraine amendment” – a reference to the Trump campaign’s decision to “intervene” to water down a proposed amendment to the GOP’s Ukraine platform.

    more Carter Page's testimony is filled with bombshells ? and supports key portions of the Steele dossier, Business Insider - Business Insider Singapore

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    Good to see Bernie Sanders shedding light on the Russian-American oligarchy connections, but whether it can be broken is another thing. Here is an old news story showing how chummy things are. Ivanka Trump vacationing with Putin?s rumored girlfriend | TheHill

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Carter Page’s testimony is filled with bombshells — and supports key portions of the Steele dossier
    nonsense.

    what's your take-away, misskit?

    that carter page was the "main man", the guy who was passing pieces of paper between the trump campaign and the russians in a grand conspiracy between the two to defeat hillary?

    now, first, let's be honest and say that the mainstream media's reporting on any russian-trump story is biased and fueled with quotes from anonymous sources in the deep state.

    secondly, let's see what a right-wing media website (compared to left-wing wa post, ny times etc.) has to say about page's testimony.

    ant and boyz: please feel free to disagree with the content, rather than whining about tucker carlson.

    full article at: http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/06/ho...ges-testimony/

    The House Intelligence Committee released a lengthy transcript of an interview former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page gave last week.


    According to the transcript, Page reiterated that he has “never, never” met or spoken to President Trump.

    He also denied allegations made against him in the dossier, which was financed by the Clinton campaign and DNC and authored by former British spy Christopher Steele.


    “Every word in that about me is completely false,” Page said in an exchange with South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy.

    Steele alleges in the dossier that when Page made a trip to Moscow in July 2016, he met with Rosneft CEO Igor Sechin and Kremlin insider Igor Diveykin.

    Steele, a former MI6 agent, claimed that Page was the Trump campaign’s middleman to discuss collusion as well as ways to end sanctions against Russian businesses.

    Page vehemently denied meeting with the two Russians. He acknowledged that he met one top Russian government official on his July 2016 trip, Arkady Dvorkovich, Russia’s deputy prime minister.

    Page told reporters in Aug. 2016 about a brief encounter he had with Dvorkovich.

    After his trip to Moscow, Page sent an email to several Trump campaign officials offering a summary of his overseas visit.

    “In a private conversation, Dvorkovich expressed strong support for Mr. Trump and a desire to work together toward devising better solutions in response to the vast range of current international problem,” stated the email, which was read aloud in the interview by California Rep. Adam Schiff, the committee’s top Democrat.

    Page downplayed the significance of the exchange, telling Schiff that it lasted less than 10 seconds.

    Page, a former Navy officer with business experience in Moscow, also said he saw “no evidence at all” of members of the Trump campaign conspiring to hack or release emails stolen from the Clinton campaign and DNC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    “In a private conversation, Dvorkovich expressed strong support for Mr. Trump and a desire to work together toward devising better solutions in response to the vast range of current international problem,” stated the email,
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Page downplayed the significance of the exchange, telling Schiff that it lasted less than 10 seconds.
    so , 10 seconds - he must have just said he wanted to make trump great again

    what sort of person would believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    so , 10 seconds - he must have just said he wanted to make trump great again
    so, baldrick, i'll put you in the "yes" column supporting the following conspiracy theory:

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    that carter page was the "main man", the guy who was passing pieces of paper between the trump campaign and the russians in a grand conspiracy between the two to defeat hillary?

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    ^ The man is an idiot. Typical of the types of people that Drumpf surrounds himself with.


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    What a bunch of details Schiller has given. Now, doesn't everyone think if Trump or his bodyguard knew Trump had been offered and turned down five Russian women while he was in Moscow, they would have already told the story?


    Trump Bodyguard Keith Schiller Testifies Russian Offered Trump Women, Was Turned Down


    WASHINGTON — After a business meeting before the Miss Universe Pageant in 2013, a Russian participant offered to "send five women" to Donald Trump's hotel room in Moscow, his longtime bodyguard told Congress this week, according to three sources who were present for the interview.
    Two of the sources said the bodyguard, Keith Schiller, viewed the offer as a joke, and immediately responded, "We don't do that type of stuff."


    The two sources said Schiller's comments came in the context of him adamantly disputing the allegations made in the Trump dossier, written by a former British intelligence operative, which describes Trump having an encounter with prostitutes at the hotel during the pageant. Schiller described his reaction to that story as being, "Oh my God, that's bull----," two sources said.


    The conversation with the Russian about the five women took place after a morning meeting about the pageant in Moscow broke up, two sources said.


    That night, two sources said, Schiller said he discussed the conversation with Trump as Trump was walking back to his hotel room, and Schiller said the two men laughed about it as Trump went to bed alone. Schiller testified that he stood outside Trump's hotel room for a time and then went to bed.


    One source noted that Schiller testified he eventually left Trump's hotel room door and could not say for sure what happened during the remainder of the night.


    Two other sources said Schiller testified he was confident nothing happened.


    Schiller said he and Trump were aware of the risk that hotel rooms in Moscow could be set up to capture hidden video, two sources said.


    Schiller was grilled about the Moscow trip as part of four hours of testimony before the House Intelligence Committee. The questioning around the Moscow trip took a significant amount of time, the sources said. Schiller was also asked about the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr. and Russians, two of the sources said. He testified that he did not recall much about that day.


    In a statement, Schiller's lawyer said "the versions of Mr. Schiller’s testimony being leaked to the press are blatantly false and misleading. "


    "We are appalled by the leaks that are coming from partisan insiders from the House Intelligence Committee," said Stuart Sears. "It is outrageous that the very Committee that is conducting an investigation into leaks — purportedly in the public interest — is itself leaking information and defaming cooperative witnesses like Mr. Schiller. The Chairman and Ranking Member should investigate and hold accountable whoever is responsible for leaking false and misleading versions of Mr. Schiller’s testimony. This conduct is indefensible and calls into question the credibility and motives of the Committee’s investigation."


    A White House lawyer familiar with the matter said that the White House "and fair-minded people are pleased that Mr. Schiller was able to debunk yet another of the false claims in the fantasy dossier funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign and prepared during a time its foreign author worked closely with paid Russian operatives."


    A Navy veteran, Schiller worked part-time as a bodyguard for Trump while still an NYPD officer. He began working for Trump full-time after his retirement from the force in 2002 and became his director of security in 2004. He served as director of oval office operations in the Trump White House from January until September.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...d-down-n819386

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    So, if the pee pee tape exists, someone has given Schiller/Trump reassurances that it will not be released....
    ...providing, of course, Trump does what he's told.
    The reassurance is credible to them because it comes with the assurance that Putin does not want Trump impeached as it's unhelpful to his goals.

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    I am not sure a golden shower tape would be much damaging to Trump, politically or personally

    he might actually get a few more supporters from the Democrats side

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    So, if the pee pee tape exists, someone has given Schiller/Trump reassurances that it will not be released....
    ...providing, of course, Trump does what he's told.
    The reassurance is credible to them because it comes with the assurance that Putin does not want Trump impeached as it's unhelpful to his goals.

    You really think you have it figured out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    providing, of course, Trump does what he's told.
    LOL, I don't think Putin cares what the orange dipshit does, as long has the dipshit keeps America in disharmony.

    The US government isn't functioning as effectively as it was a year ago. America's adversaries benefit from that.

    America's allies don't trust someone who can't tell the truth or keep private conversations private or tweets his opinion without little thought behind his words. America's adversaries win again.
    "I was a good student. I comprehend very well, OK, better than I think almost anybody," - President Trump comparing his legal knowledge to a Federal judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    LOL, I don't think Putin cares what the orange dipshit does, as long has the dipshit keeps America in disharmony.

    The US government isn't functioning as effectively as it was a year ago. America's adversaries benefit from that.

    America's allies don't trust someone who can't tell the truth or keep private conversations private or tweets his opinion without little thought behind his words. America's adversaries win again.
    Yes, and that's why Putin wants 45 to remain in office.
    And that's why, if they exist, the pee pee tapes won't be released. The irony is that 45 wants to remain in office for as long as possible, but the pp tape would hinder that tremendously and as long as Putin assures him the tape won't be released, 45 is happy, and Putin is happy because the self-serving 45 will do whatever Putin wants behind the scenes, energy deals with American companies for example.

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    Another case for investigation:
    President Trump Greets Vladimir Putin at APEC 2017 Gala 11/10/17


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    double post

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    the guy who wrote this was mueller's asst. director of counter intelligence at the FBI...


    when you talk about people who are used to spending nearly $1 million in three years on business suits out of a place in Cyprus, those guys are not going to do 25 years in jail. It doesn’t matter who they are going to roll over on, there’s no way Manafort is going to do 25 years in jail if he can avoid it. He can’t last.

    I would be greatly surprised if Papadopoulos is the only person who’s been cooperating with Mueller. Knowing the way we worked all these other very sophisticated cases for him, he potentially has other informants. And when the people who may be cooperating with the investigation start consensually recording conversations, it’s all over.

    That’s why Bob Mueller’s going about this in the way that he is. He knows these guys are not seasoned criminals. And he knows they’re going to roll over on each other. Mark my words, it will start becoming a race to the special counsel’s office.
    How Robert Mueller Works a Case | Time




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    So, who will die because of the Russian investigation?

    Trump said to reporters on Air Force One,“This artificial Democratic hit job gets in the way and that’s a shame because people will die because of it,” he said. “And it’s a pure hit job.”

    Is he saying he or Putin will have people killed? Just what does this mean?


    https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...a-allegations/

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    The whole transcript of the interview mentioned above here: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...nscript-244804

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    So, who will die because of the Russian investigation?

    Trump said to reporters on Air Force One,“This artificial Democratic hit job gets in the way and that’s a shame because people will die because of it,” he said. “And it’s a pure hit job.”

    Is he saying he or Putin will have people killed? Just what does this mean?


    https://www.politico.eu/article/dona...a-allegations/
    Pure Trump bluster and trying to sound like a person concerned with his citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    So, who will die because of the Russian investigation?
    i think he was referring to syrians....and combatants in syria.

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    On the one hand, president 'America First' Trump believes KGB Colonel over U.S. intelligence agencies when he says he didn't do it, on the other hand.....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-kremlin-says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    On the one hand, president 'America First' Trump believes KGB Colonel over U.S. intelligence agencies when he says he didn't do it, on the other hand.....

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...t-kremlin-says
    I reckon the old Alzheimers is kicking in.

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