Thread: Scotland To Have Another Independance Referendum

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

The oil left at its current price is worth less than the decommissioning of the rigs.
Besides. ...The Shetland and Orkney Islanders technically own it and they are firmly for the Union and out of the EU.
Play the other bag pipe:

Do you just invent facts to suit your argument? Both islands voted overwhelmingly to stay in Europe. They did however reject independence. This is because they get big subsidies for being rural communities from both Westminster and Brussels.
Now they will have to decide which one gives them the most cash.

Originally Posted by Bower

I do think it's a shame that 750,000 Scots residing in the rest of the UK will have no vote on this issue. They will have had a vote on the EU referendum...

I get a vote because i still have property in Scotland even although im only in the country for a few weeks every year.

Originally Posted by Bower

I do think it's a shame that 750,000 Scots residing in the rest of the UK will have no vote on this issue. They will have had a vote on the EU referendum...

That's correct and to rub salt in the wounds EU citizens resident in Scotland could vote in the last Indy referendum but May unlike Cameron won't be hoodwinked this time. Basically Cameron let Salmond have exactly what he wanted in the last referendum as he didn't think there was a hope in hell of losing, May won't make the same mistake. Also there is a petition online now that has met the required 100k signatures for a debate in parliament from Scots opposing another referendum. I personally want to see an independent Scotland but one also free of the EU and the SNP hence now is the wrong time.

I doubt there will be another Referendum- most Scots don't want it. At least you can complain about bloody England, if you're part of the union.
Brexit will remain a sore point with haggisland & ulster- but it is between the north and south of England too. Nevertheless, the Aye's have it.

Theresa May has moved to block a new Scottish independence referendum by saying "now is not the time" for another vote.

The Prime Minister said a repeat of the 2014 referendum was not appropriate because the country was already going through a huge change in terms of Brexit, and that Scottish people needed a fuller picture before taking any decision on the future.

But her move to block another vote for now creates an intense political stand-off with SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon, who will next week ask Scottish MSPs to approve her plans for a second referendum.


126,000 sign petition against second Scottish independence referendum
Relations between the two are strained with Ms Sturgeon taking a swipe at the Prime Minister earlier this week, pointing out that Ms May has not been voted in at a general election.

Ms May told ITV News: "My message is very clear. Now is not the time. I've explained the reasons why.

"We should be working to get the right deal for Scotland and the UK with our future partnership with the European Union.

"It would be unfair to the people of Scotland at the moment that they would be being asked to make a crucial decision without the information they need to make that decision."

Theresa May blocks second Scottish independence referendum | The Independent

The UK will leave the EU and then and only then should the Scottish People have another referendum.

Certainly Nicola Sturgeon is a reckless fool who would only try to make life miserable for everyone by trying to carry out a referendum while major a geopolitical exit is happening and stability bus required.

SNP does not care about anyone beside their own inflated egos and bitter anti English bigotry

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Certainly Nicola Sturgeon is a reckless fool who would only try to make life miserable for everyone by trying to carry out a referendum while major a geopolitical exit is happening and stability bus required.

'Stability' to do something that Cameron, an utterly fucking stupid idiot of a PM, paved the way to do, as the leader of a party that has one MP in Scotland?


Are you belatedly finding out that voting for BREXIT was voting to bring about exactly the opposite of 'stability'?

14 days before Brexit

Originally Posted by cyrille

Are you belatedly finding out that voting for BREXIT was voting to bring about exactly the opposite of 'stability'?

Short term loss for long term gain with regards Brexit.

As for Scottish independence it will be the other way around.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Originally Posted by cyrille

Are you belatedly finding out that voting for BREXIT was voting to bring about exactly the opposite of 'stability'?

Short term loss for long term gain with regards Brexit.

As for Scottish independence it will be the other way around.

Scotland could thrive as an independent country just not under the SNP or as a member of the EU.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Originally Posted by cyrille

Are you belatedly finding out that voting for BREXIT was voting to bring about exactly the opposite of 'stability'?

Short term loss for long term gain with regards Brexit.

As for Scottish independence it will be the other way around.

Scotland could thrive as an independent country just not under the SNP or as a member of the EU.

The EU is the largest wealthiest trading block in the world.. Why would Scotland not thrive as a member?
England(and the wee bit stuck on the side...i think its called Wales) is turning itself into a frozen out isolated outpost dependent on any scraps Trump feels like throwing it. Think how many large companies will abandon London and move to Edinburgh with its thriving financial centre.

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Why would Scotland not thrive as a member?

... because it is ram jam full of indolent Scots swigging Irn Bru and claiming benefits.

Who is going to pay your dole money when you leave the UK ?

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Why would Scotland not thrive as a member?

... because it is ram jam full of indolent Scots swigging Irn Bru and claiming benefits.

Who is going to pay your dole money when you leave the UK ?

The top 10 benefit hotspots in the UK
X.1
JANUARY 2017
1 Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough 2,780
2 Nottingham East 2,810
3 Hartlepool 2,825
4 Liverpool, Walton 2,830
5 Liverpool, Riverside 2,925
6 Blackley and Broughton 2,940
7 Tottenham 2,980
8 Birmingham, Hall Green 3,075
9 Bootle 3,120
10 Manchester Central


Not a single Scottish town or city. Ive destroyed you with facts again If you want to debate someone like me about politics you really will have to up your game

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Ive destroyed you with facts again If you want to debate someone like me about politics you really will have to up your game

Yes, you have and I am absolutely gutted. I am going for a lie down in the hope that I can recover. You never did say who was going to pay the Scottish dole money, did you ? I suspect it's the same people who pay the wasters in Sheffield.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Ive destroyed you with facts again If you want to debate someone like me about politics you really will have to up your game

Yes, you have and I am absolutely gutted. I am going for a lie down in the hope that I can recover. You never did say who was going to pay the Scottish dole money, did you ? I expect it's the same people who pay the wasters in Sheffield.

Well the fact that Scotland raises 53 billion in taxes per year is more than enough to pay our own benefits.

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

The top 10 benefit hotspots in the UK
X.1
JANUARY 2017
1 Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough 2,780

Tax's hometown and summer retreat.

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Ive destroyed you with facts again If you want to debate someone like me about politics you really will have to up your game

Yes, you have and I am absolutely gutted. I am going for a lie down in the hope that I can recover. You never did say who was going to pay the Scottish dole money, did you ? I expect it's the same people who pay the wasters in Sheffield.

Well the fact that Scotland raises 53 billion in taxes per year is more than enough to pay our own benefits.

53 billion on what? Whiskey and Irn Bru!
Don't say oil cause it's not even Scotland's.
Thank fuck for Trident jobs or the Barnett formulae otherwise The Jocks would be fucked.
Trouble is you are the English archilles heal and we feel duty bound to help our neighbours in the Union, we are far too kind for our own good. We give Surgeon an inch and she trys to take a yard.
The SNP are a load of racist, sponging ungrateful twats and need settling on the Isle of St.Kilda.
They can go back to living on albatross and living in stone/moss huts.
Inbred ginger cunts.

The neurotic English are scared shitless that Scotland will dump them for the EU and thrive whilst they descend into the inevitable Brexshit chaos and recession and assume the status of a coon state surviving within the WTO.

While Scotland's star rises within the EU firmament for all to see, poor old skanky, deadbeat England will be marginalised as an outcast scratching around for trade deals with tinpot dictators, banana republics and of course the usual ragbag confection of Commonfilth countries with their economic arses dragging in the dirt looking for crumbs off the big boys' table.

A successful Scotland powering away within the ambit of the largest trading bloc in the world will be anathema to the English and a constant reminder of their stupidity. May and the Tories simply cannot allow that to happen which is why they will fight tooth and nail to prevent independence.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

While Scotland's star rises within the EU firmament for all to see

Quite right ! And, all the little Scottish kids will be speaking German.

£53bn

Tax revenue generated by Scotland
9.1% of UK tax revenue came from Scotland
8.3% of the UK population live in Scotland
£10,000 tax per head in Scotland
£9,200 tax per head, rest of UK
Source: Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS)


Or to put it another way, for every person in Scotland last year, the exchequer received £800 more than the UK average.

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

While Scotland's star rises within the EU firmament for all to see

Quite right ! And, all the little Scottish kids will be speaking German.

Excellent. Another advantage over the lumpen monolingual English.

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Originally Posted by Digby Fantona

Originally Posted by Scottish Gary

Why would Scotland not thrive as a member?

... because it is ram jam full of indolent Scots swigging Irn Bru and claiming benefits.

Who is going to pay your dole money when you leave the UK ?

The top 10 benefit hotspots in the UK
X.1
JANUARY 2017
1 Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough 2,780
2 Nottingham East 2,810
3 Hartlepool 2,825
4 Liverpool, Walton 2,830
5 Liverpool, Riverside 2,925
6 Blackley and Broughton 2,940
7 Tottenham 2,980
8 Birmingham, Hall Green 3,075
9 Bootle 3,120
10 Manchester Central


Not a single Scottish town or city. Ive destroyed you with facts again If you want to debate someone like me about politics you really will have to up your game

That's because all the piss-stained drunken Scots live in theese places, normally singing horrific versions of some old gaelic shit at bus and train stations for a few coins.

They skew the figures you see.

And while you're banging on about supposedly paying more tax, you spend the British purse at a far faster rate than the rest.

The SNP would fuck Scotland in a heart beat if it had to stand on its own two feet.

They are incompetent, attention-seeking buffoons.

Official statistics show that £10,536 is spent each year on people north of the Border-£1,460 more than the UK average of £9,076.

The country continues to benefit from the financial advantage despite Scotland's budget deficit of £15billion being almost £9bn-or £1,600 per person-higher than the UK's as a whole.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Scotland could thrive as an independent country just not under the SNP or as a member of the EU.

remind us again how Britain was doing in the 70s before it joined the EU

the funny thing is that the EU was forcing you from not hurting yourself

I can't help myself wanking to the thought of you fools sinking into oblivion after the Brexit

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

I can't help myself wanking to the thought of you fools sinking into oblivion after the Brexit

They will have to trawl the globe searching for any trade deal they can get their hands on. Sucking up to a whole host of despot leaders in the hope of striking something, anything.......Scotland is better out of it

The Sturgeon National Party formally the Salmond National Party wants to transfer their capital from London to Brussels.
Fucking self serving nationalist retards.