^ Can't argue with that.
The question is, in the tit-for-tat, who tatted first?
My contention is the horde of Europeans (who happened to claim to be "Jewish"), ie the Zionists.
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^ Can't argue with that.
The question is, in the tit-for-tat, who tatted first?
My contention is the horde of Europeans (who happened to claim to be "Jewish"), ie the Zionists.
Source?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
More than 200 hundred fires were sparked over the past week across Israel, with the Internal Security Ministry estimating that about half were the result of arson.
Some 85,000 residents of Haifa were force to flee their homes, along with hundreds of residents in Zichron Yaakov, Atlit, Neve Tzuf (Halamish), Beit Meir, Nataf, and other towns around Israel. More than 400 homes were destroyed in Haifa, along with dozens more across the country.
Of the 37 suspects arrested during the investigation, 24 remain in custody, while 13 have been released. Among those still in custody, 18 are Israeli Arabs, two of whom have admitted to lighting fires.
Police say that they are currently investigating 233 cases of arson in connection with last week’s fires. Forty-five files have been opened on possible arsonists, while another five have been opened against individuals suspected of incitement to arson. Of those now being investigated for Facebook incitement, two are Arabs and three are Jews.
37 suspected arsonists arrested, including 18 Israeli Arabs - Defense/Security - News -
Two Minors Accused of Setting Fire to Forest in Northern Israel
The two, residents of a village in the Galilee, are accused of setting fire to dry leaves in a forest, causing a large blaze; Judge says that fire seems to have been a prank, not politically motivated.
read more: Two minors accused of setting fire to forest in northern Israel - Israel News - Haaretz.com
^ as the OP said minors all over the world can do that, myself included. So why such a hateful response from the Arab media?
You set fire to forests when you were a child? You think that's normal?Quote:
Originally Posted by wjblaney
What's normal is for kids to light a small fire, with no intention of getting into trouble and then things go horribly wrong and the wind might change or a live spark might fly up and land some distance away onto tinder, and it's out of control.
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
like they say, eh?...Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
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Originally Posted by ENTExactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
Is that normally followed by one of Ents ill-informed rants, dazzling in its ignorance of almost every subject under the sun, calling for the utter extermination of those children's people? As for the question posed in the OP, posted by a German, I'll respond with another question. We all know what the Russians did in Germany in 1945 and it was atrocious. Why is it, Herman, that nobody in the whole wide world feels much sympathy for the victims?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
If you can answer that honestly then you will know the reason for many of the members of the Arab linguistic grouping's (that one for you ENT, you shameful ignoramus) schadenfreude.
Trolling again Boob?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0bIs that normally followed by one of Ents ill-informed rants, dazzling in its ignorance of almost every subject under the sunQuote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
Liar! I never have.Quote:
calling for the utter extermination of those children's people?
Your perception of reality is flawed, or you live in a very limited environment.Quote:
...what the Russians did in Germany in 1945 and it was atrocious....why is it... that nobody in the whole wide world feels much sympathy for the victims?
If you compare the things that Nazi Germany did to Russia with the situation in Israel, then you are as dumb as a Islamist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0bIs that normally followed by one of Ents ill-informed rants, dazzling in its ignorance of almost every subject under the sun, calling for the utter extermination of those children's people? As for the question posed in the OP, posted by a German, I'll respond with another question. We all know what the Russians did in Germany in 1945 and it was atrocious. Why is it, Herman, that nobody in the whole wide world feels much sympathy for the victims?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
If you can answer that honestly then you will know the reason for many of the members of the Arab linguistic grouping's (that one for you ENT, you shameful ignoramus) schadenfreude.
I compare them with hiw qhat happened in russia originally started. Have you learned nothing? Do you know who said this and why?Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGermanIf you compare the things that Nazi Germany did to Russia with the situation in Israel, then you are as dumb as a Islamist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0bIs that normally followed by one of Ents ill-informed rants, dazzling in its ignorance of almost every subject under the sun, calling for the utter extermination of those children's people? As for the question posed in the OP, posted by a German, I'll respond with another question. We all know what the Russians did in Germany in 1945 and it was atrocious. Why is it, Herman, that nobody in the whole wide world feels much sympathy for the victims?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasabi
If you can answer that honestly then you will know the reason for many of the members of the Arab linguistic grouping's (that one for you ENT, you shameful ignoramus) schadenfreude.
Nur eines hätte unsere Bewegung stoppen können – wenn unsere Gegner ihr Prinzip verstanden hätten und vom ersten Tag an den Kern unserer neuen Bewegung mit aller Brutalität zerschlagen hätten
Not everybody is too stupid to recognise the symptoms, the same disease is recurring in Europe, America, and in Israel and, as before, small-minded bigots like and ENT allow it to happen.
Did you ever ask yourself why the Germans got sympathy, peace and forgiveness from their former enemies after what they have done ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Would the Arab linguistic group be able to do such a thing (never mind which side they would have been on) ? :rolleyes:
You were economically valuable as a workforce and a useful bulwark against the Soviets. Nothing more. To this day the first thing any European thinks about when meeting a German is what you people did. It may not be right, it may not be just, and we would certainly not mention it your face, but when the rest of us see you the first thing we see is the monster and it is clear from recent events that the monster still exists. It might have been better, for the sake of decency and civilisation, to have let Stalin have his way. The rot appears to be inherent in you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGermanDid you ever ask yourself why the Germans got sympathy, peace and forgiveness from their former enemies after what they have done ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Would the Arab linguistic group be able to do such a thing (never mind which side they would have been on) ? :rolleyes:
DrB0b.....is that really you writing this nonsense ? Do you have a Dissociative identity disorder (DID) or did someone steal your password from TD ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Fool, can't you recognise a cynical comment when you see it? neverna's link was blocked behind a "become a member to continue reading" "wall", so just a guess. An Israeli judge passes it off as a prank; would an Israeli judge do that for Palestinian kids?Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTSource?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
You then go on and post a story that shows most of the arson was committed by non-Arabs (presumably Israeli Jews).
"37 suspected arsonists arrested, including 18 Israeli Arabs".
Now, typical dimwit clutching at straws, I guess you're going to ask for proof that the non-Arab arsonists were Jews. (I've made such a preposterous antisemitic presumption!!!)
Well, I'm content to make the assumption that they were not Israeli Christians, or tourists of any religion, nor were they Nigerian scammers, nor Australian gangsters, nor Standing Rock protesters, and thus I presume that most likely they were Israeli Jews.
Occasionally I like to indulge in casuistry. Probably the result of a Catholic childhood.Quote:
Originally Posted by HermantheGermanDrB0b.....is that really you writing this nonsense ? Do you have a Dissociative identity disorder (DID) or did someone steal your password from TD ?Quote:
Originally Posted by DrB0b
Don't be daft!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
Of the 37 suspects arrested .....24 remain in custody, while 13 have been released.
Among those 24 still in custody, 18 are Israeli Arabs, (= 75% of those still in custody), two of whom(Arabs), have admitted to lighting fires.
That leaves 6 non-Arabs (presumably Jews or others) of the 24 suspects still in custody, which shows most of the suspects in custody are Arabs.
Nice try at twisting the facts to suit your bigoted rant, ....but no cigar. :)
It reminds me of Thailand in a way. When something bad happens, knee jerk reaction- gotta be the Red shirts, innit. Some senior government figure seems to spout that, usually by inference or indirectly, and guess what- it isn't. Yet you never see an official retraction, or apology made. So it was with the Erawan bombing (Chinese Uighur seperatists), and more recently the Hua Hin/ southern bombings (southern seperatists). Where is the official apology?
The Palestinians have a very deep attachment to their own land, a result of having farmed it and lived on it for multiple generations. It is doubtful in Palestine, that they would just vandalise the land for the sake of it- that is more the domain of the settler scum, who vandalise and burn Palestinian crops (especially olives, which have a special significance) on a regular basis- to the point it usually does not even make the western press anymore.
Of course in Israel, it might be a different story. And in occupied Palestine, look for motive- if an act of arson is committed close to an illegal settlement, it may ostensibly be an act of Palestinian revenge. What has become clear though, is that a great many of these fires have not been started by Palestinian's- in clear contradiction to the presumptive bullshit emanating from the Israeli media.
Palestinian accused of arson released by Israel
A Palestinian man who Israeli media and authorities accused of arson, amid wildfires that forced tens of thousands to flee their homes last week, has reportedly been released without charge.
“Remember Jawad Qattoush from Battir? He starred in all the newspapers in recent days – a Palestinian who lights fires,” Nir Hasson, a journalist for the Tel Aviv newspaper Haaretz, posted on Facebook on Thursday.
“So after five days in detention, interrogation by the Israel Security Agency and the prohibition of a meeting with a lawyer, he went home. He actually did light a fire, he burnt garbage on his own premises, 150 meters from his home, 1.5 kilometers from any Jewish town,” Hasson stated.
“Oh, and he also put out the fire,” Hasson added.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...eleased-israel
With the help of Israeli forces....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The plonker was burning "garbage" 150 mertres away from his home?
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/12/125.jpg
Tending his land
Israel’s Channel 2 had reported that on Saturday, Israeli park rangers spotted a man setting a fire at “Nahal Refaim in the Judean Hills,” a river valley straddling the boundary line between the occupied West Bank and present-day Israel.
The report claims that inspectors from Israel’s Nature and Parks Authority observed a person coming from Battir, a village west of Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank, near the boundary line with Israel. The man then began setting vegetation alight, but “thanks to the efforts of the rangers the fire was prevented from spreading.” Channel 2 adds that Israeli occupation forces followed the man back to Battir and detained him there.
Israel’s Ynet also reported that the army and police “apprehended a suspect identified by a forest ranger as setting fire to the brush northwest of the Palestinian village of Battir.”
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...eleased-israel
:rofl: Talk about twisting the facts to suit YOUR bigoted rant! You're twisting it now to include only those still in custody, not those arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTDon't be daft!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maanaam
Of the 37 suspects arrested .....24 remain in custody, while 13 have been released.
Among those 24 still in custody, 18 are Israeli Arabs, (= 75% of those still in custody), two of whom(Arabs), have admitted to lighting fires.
That leaves 6 non-Arabs (presumably Jews or others) of the 24 suspects still in custody, which shows most of the suspects in custody are Arabs.
Nice try at twisting the facts to suit your bigoted rant, ....but no cigar. :)
"37 suspected arsonists arrested, including 18 Israeli Arabs". So more Jews were arrested than Palestinians. Fact. Your fact actually as you posted it.
And read on. The very next paragraph tells it differently from the slant you would like:Quote:
Originally Posted by ENTWith the help of Israeli forces....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
The plonker was burning "garbage" 150 mertres away from his home?
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/12/125.jpg
Tending his land
Israel’s Channel 2 had reported that on Saturday, Israeli park rangers spotted a man setting a fire at “Nahal Refaim in the Judean Hills,” a river valley straddling the boundary line between the occupied West Bank and present-day Israel.
The report claims that inspectors from Israel’s Nature and Parks Authority observed a person coming from Battir, a village west of Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank, near the boundary line with Israel. The man then began setting vegetation alight, but “thanks to the efforts of the rangers the fire was prevented from spreading.” Channel 2 adds that Israeli occupation forces followed the man back to Battir and detained him there.
Israel’s Ynet also reported that the army and police “apprehended a suspect identified by a forest ranger as setting fire to the brush northwest of the Palestinian village of Battir.”
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs...eleased-israel
"But in Battir, neighbors told a very different story to Ma’an News Agency reporter Mirna al-Atrash: "
"They said that Qattoush, 43, works in Jerusalem, and his day off is Saturday, which is when he typically tends to and waters his land. That’s what Qattoush was doing last Saturday, according to one neighbor: he collected scrub and debris and burned it, and then returned home.
The video report shows a small patch of charred earth where Qattoush burned the brush.
“We were surprised when a short time later the army and police arrived and took him away,” the neighbor said.
Another neighbor explained that following the autumn olive harvest villagers typically clear their land of fallen branches, as Qattoush was doing, far from any forested area."
That they released him suggests that they actually had nothing to prosecute him with, despite him actually lighting a fire. His story stacks up.
Looks like yet another example of Israeli persecution of Palestinians: harassment designed to wear the people down, to eventually drive them from their ancestral homes.
Zionist bastards.
So which version do you prefer?
nice link, Spagetti Chops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luigi
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2016/12/137.jpg
:)