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    Reports: President Trump’s ‘No Quid Pro Quo’ Call With Sondland Never Happened

    Interesting.



    Following weeks of compounding evidence and testimony implying that President Donald Trump made congressionally-approved aid to Ukraine contingent on a politically advantageous investigation, the President and his GOP supporters’ primary defense has been an alleged Sept. 9th phone call during which the President told E.U. Ambassador Gordon Sondland he wanted “no quid pro quo.” But a Friday report by JustSecurity, supported by a Wednesday report from the Washington Post, appear to show that no such call ever took place.
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    The inside story of Trump's alleged bribery of Ukraine

    A long article so I won't post it all.
    A good in depth look at the whole thing.


    Public testimony in the impeachment hearings has painted a vivid picture of a president fixated on one thing: his own political gain over the fortunes of an ally
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...chment-inquiry

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    There's a difference between posting a link with your own comment or commentary or even posting the entire thing compared to just spamming links like you do, Repeater.

    Do you actually have your own opinions of has Brietbart / Fox News etc. not given them to you yet?
    You don’t have the technical skill to follow the link?

    Why should I comment when the article says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    And you,what about your spamming links,who holds the spoon that feeds you?
    I hold the spoon that feeds me unlike you. I am smart enough to vet all the news I read and watch to check the source for bias and then I compensate. I fact check unlike you. As much as you lemmings may not understand there is still verifiable facts in this world. Sadly the sources you quote do not provide any of them. You are a lemming and a useful idiot of the right wing oligarchs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    You don’t have the technical skill to follow the link?

    Why should I comment when the article says it all.
    Why should anyone bother to open your bullshit links if you’re too intellectual shallow and lazy to add your own thoughts and just regurgitate what you’re told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Why should I comment when the article says it all.
    I wouldn't worry about it.

    We all know you have no opinion of your own and rely on others to provide it for you, even when it's utter fucking rubbish like Breitbart.

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    Fifty-three percent of Republicans said that Trump is a better president than Lincoln.
    Must still be peeved about him ending slavery eh.



    https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/po...way+%7C+OTB%29

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    Presidential historian predicts public support for Trump will collapse

    Presidential historian Douglas Brinkley on Friday predicted that public support for President Trump will collapse as House Democrats continue their impeachment inquiry against him.

    “It just tells you what deep trouble Donald Trump is in. I mean, when you have 50 percent of the country wanting you not just impeached but removed from office, and the game hasn’t even gotten fast yet,” Brinkley said Friday morning on CNN, where he serves as a contributor.

    “I think once the vote is taken by Congress to impeach him and he’s wearing the ‘I’ on his chest, you’re going to see that movement grow even more,” Brinkley predicted.
    He added of Trump, “It tells you he doesn’t have a lot of friends. He’s a base politician. He doesn’t know how to turn this around.”

    CNN presidential historian Douglas Brinkley on a recent poll showing 50% of Americans support impeaching and removing Trump from office:

    After Congress votes, "you're going to see that movement grow even more... He's a base politician. He doesn't know how to turn this around." pic.twitter.com/wR9iCB4Jho
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    Brinkley noted the successful campaigns of politicians from opposing parties that came after previous presidents faced political fallout.

    "I think the Democrats might want to look at the way Jimmy Carter pulled off victory in 1976. He took the high road. He ran on saying, I will never tell a lie to you," Brinkley said. "He didn't have to say Nixon's lies or Lyndon Johnson's lies, just that I am clean, good governance coming your way if you vote for me."

    Polling on impeachment has fluctuated in the nine weeks since Democrats launched their probe.

    A Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday found a slight shift in the president's direction on impeachment. That survey found 45 percent in favor of Trump’s impeachment and removal, with 48 percent against it. That was a reversal from the poll's findings the previous month.

    However, a CNN poll conducted after the first week of public hearings in the inquiry found that 50 percent of Americans said Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 43 percent said he should not be — the same margin from a poll conducted in October.

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    Well it's plainly obvious that right now Republicans are terrified of going against the stupid bald orange turd in case he turns on them.

    But it only takes a few to stand up to him for the rest to join in.

    He's Denzel Washington at the end of "Training Day".


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But it only takes a few to stand up to him for the rest to join in.
    The Senate is a bunch of dominoes at this point.

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    Trump says he will testify at the impeachment hearings. Please, please do.

    "President Trump, did you withhold funding from Ukraine until they agreed to investigate Biden?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Trump says he will testify at the impeachment hearings.
    Link?

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    Saw in a couple places. "Strongly consider" to be precise.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/trum...ent-probe.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Trump says he will testify at the impeachment hearings.
    Well he said that he'd release his tax returns as well.

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    'strongly consider' is meaningless. Especially considering what a liar he is.

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    Anything he says is meaningless considering what a liar he is.

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    Agree. We won't be seeing anything from the BSer in Chief. My post above a bit tongue in cheek.

    Unless Dems hold their current Senate seats and gain 4, Trump will not be impeached. Better to focus in beating him in Nov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Saw in a couple places. "Strongly consider" to be precise.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/18/trum...ent-probe.html
    Yeah, not the same thing, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    My post above a bit tongue in cheek.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yeah, not the same thing, is it?
    You want to make a federal case of it Harry, carry on. You have a penchant for it.
    BTW, there is a political cartoon thread where you can post your cartoons. Keep them out of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Unless Dems hold their current Senate seats and gain 4, Trump will not be impeached.

    Better to focus in beating him in Nov.
    +1 Wise words

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    US President Donald Trump refuses to attend impeachment hearing


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    US President Donald Trump and his lawyers will not take part in a congressional impeachment hearing this week, the White House has said.

    Key points:
    • Mr Trump won't attend hearings unless the process is changed
    • His lawyer says the process lacks "fundamental fairness"
    • The White House has been given a new deadline of Friday to say whether Mr Trump will mount a defence


    Mr Trump's aides responded defiantly to the first of two crucial deadlines he faces in Congress this week, as Democrats prepare to shift the focus of their impeachment inquiry from fact-finding to the consideration of possible charges of misconduct over his dealings with Ukraine.

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    He was limp and dusty from an explosion, conscious but barely. A far cry from the fierce, masked Islamic State fighters who once seized vast swaths of Iraq and Syria, the captive was a scraggly teenager in a tank top with limbs so thin that his watch slid easily off his wrist.

    Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher and other Navy SEALs gave the young captive medical aid that day in Iraq in 2017, sedating him and cutting an airway in his throat to help him breathe. Then, without warning, according to colleagues, Gallagher pulled a small hunting knife from a sheath and stabbed the sedated captive in the neck.

    The same Gallagher who later posed for a photograph holding the dead captive up by the hair has now been celebrated on the campaign trail by President Donald Trump, who upended the military code of justice to protect him from the punishment resulting from the episode. Prodded by Fox News, Trump has been trumpeting him as an argument for his reelection.

    The violent encounter in a faraway land opened a two-year affair that would pit a Pentagon hierarchy wedded to longstanding rules of combat and discipline against a commander in chief with no experience in uniform but a finely honed sense of grievance against authority. The highest ranks in the Navy insisted Gallagher be held accountable. Trump overruled the chain of command and the secretary of the Navy was fired.

    The case of the president and a commando accused of war crimes offers a lesson in how Trump presides over the armed forces three years after taking office. While he boasts of supporting the military, he has come to distrust the generals and admirals who run it. Rather than accept information from his own government, he responds to television reports that grab his interest. Warned against crossing lines, he bulldozes past precedent and norms.

    As a result, the president finds himself more removed than ever from a disenchanted military command, adding the armed forces to the institutions under his authority that he has feuded with, along with the intelligence community, law enforcement agencies and diplomatic corps.

    “We’re going to take care of our warriors and I will always stick up for our great fighters,” Trump told a rally in Florida as he depicted the military hierarchy as part of “the deep state” he vowed to dismantle. “People can sit there in air-conditioned offices and complain, but you know what? It doesn’t matter to me whatsoever.”

    The president’s handling of the case has distressed active-duty and retired officers and the civilians who work closely with them. His intervention, they said, emboldens war criminals and erodes the order of a professional military.

    “He’s interfering with the chain of command, which is trying to police its own ranks,” said Peter D. Feaver, a specialist on civilian-military relations at Duke University and former aide to President George W. Bush. “They’re trying to clean up their act and in the middle of it the president parachutes in — and not from information from his own commanders but from news talking heads who are clearly gaming the system.”

    Chris Shumake, a former sniper who served in Gallagher’s platoon, said in an interview that he was troubled by the impact the president’s intervention could have on the SEALs.

    “It’s blown up bigger than any of us could have ever expected, and turned into a national clown show that put a bad light on the teams,” said Shumake, speaking publicly for the first time. “He’s trying to show he has the troops’ backs, but he’s saying he doesn’t trust any of the troops or their leaders to make the right decisions.”

    Gallagher, who has denied wrongdoing, declined through his lawyer to be interviewed. Trump’s allies said the president was standing up to political correctness that hamstrings the warriors the nation asks to defend it, as if war should be fought according to lawyerly rules.

    “From the beginning, this was overzealous prosecutors who were not giving the benefit of the doubt to the trigger-pullers,” Pete Hegseth, a weekend host of “Fox & Friends” who has promoted Gallagher to the president both on the telephone and on air, said this past week. “That’s what the president saw.”

    ‘No One Touch Him. He’s Mine.’

    Gallagher, 40, a seasoned operator with a face weathered from eight combat deployments, sometimes went by the nickname Blade. He sought the toughest assignments, where gunfire and blood were almost guaranteed. Months before deploying, he sent a text to the SEAL master chief making assignments, saying he was “down to go” to any spot, no matter how awful, so long as “there is for sure action and work to be done.”

    “We don’t care about living conditions,” he added. “We just want to kill as many people as possible.”

    Before deployment, he commissioned a friend and former SEAL to make him a custom hunting knife and a hatchet, vowing in a text, “I’ll try and dig that knife or hatchet on someone’s skull!”

    He was in charge of 22 men in SEAL Team 7’s Alpha Platoon, which deployed to Mosul, Iraq, in early 2017. But his platoon was nowhere near the action, assigned an “advise and assist” mission supporting Iraqi commandos doing the block-by-block fighting. The SEALs were required to stay 1,000 meters behind the front lines.

    That changed on May 6, 2017, when an Apache helicopter banked over a dusty patchwork of fields outside Mosul, fixed its sights on a farmhouse serving as an Islamic State command post and fired two Hellfire missiles reducing it to rubble.

    Gallagher saw the explosion from an armored gun truck. When he heard on the radio that Iraqi soldiers had captured an Islamic State fighter and taken him to a nearby staging area, he raced to the scene. “No one touch him,” he radioed other SEALs. “He’s mine.”

    ‘Got Him With My Hunting Knife’

    When the captive was killed, other SEALs were shocked. A medic inches from Gallagher testified that he froze, unsure what to do. Some SEALs said in interviews that the stabbing immediately struck them as wrong, but because it was Gallagher, the most experienced commando in the group, no one knew how to react. When senior platoon members confronted Gallagher, they said, he told them, “Stop worrying about it; they do a lot worse to us.”

    The officer in charge, Lt. Jacob Portier, who was in his first command, gathered everyone for trophy photos, then held a re-enlistment ceremony for Gallagher over the corpse, several SEALs testified.

    A week later, Gallagher sent a friend in California a text with a photo of himself with a knife in one hand, holding the captive up by the hair with the other. “Good story behind this, got him with my hunting knife,” he wrote.

    As the deployment wore on, SEALs said the chief’s behavior grew more erratic. He led a small team beyond the front lines, telling members to turn off locator beacons so they would not be caught by superiors, according to four SEALS, who confirmed video of the mission obtained by The New York Times. He then tried to cover up the mission when one platoon member was shot.

    At various points, he appeared to be either amped up or zoned out; several SEALs told investigators they saw him taking pills, including the narcotic Tramadol. He spent much of his time scanning the streets of Mosul from hidden sniper nests, firing three or four times as often as the platoon’s snipers, sometimes targeting civilians.

    One SEAL sniper told investigators he heard a shot from Gallagher’s position, then saw a schoolgirl in a flower-print hijab crumple to the ground. Another sniper reported hearing a shot from Gallagher’s position, then seeing a man carrying a water jug fall, a red blotch spreading on his back. Neither episode was investigated and the fate of the civilians remains unknown.

    Gallagher had been accused of misconduct before, including shooting through an Afghan girl to hit the man carrying her in 2010 and trying to run over a Navy police officer in 2014. But in both cases no wrongdoing was found.

    SEALs said they reported concerns to Portier with no result. The lieutenant outranked Gallagher but was younger and less experienced. SEALs said in interviews that the chief often yelled at his commanding officer or disregarded him altogether. After the deployment, Portier was charged with not reporting the chief for war crimes but charges were dropped. SEALS said they started firing warning shots to keep pedestrians out of range. One SEAL told investigators he tried to damage the chief’s rifle to make it less accurate.

    By the end of the deployment, SEALs said, Gallagher was largely isolated from the rest of the platoon, with some privately calling him “el diablo,” the devil.

    A Fox Contributor’s Cause

    Gallagher was reported by six fellow SEALs and arrested in September 2017, charged with nearly a dozen counts including murder and locked in the brig in San Diego to await his trial. He denied the charges and called those reporting him liars who could not meet his high standards, referring to them repeatedly in public as “the mean girls” and saying they sought to get rid of him.

    David Shaw, a former SEAL who deployed with the platoon, said he saw no evidence of that. “All six were some of the best performers in the platoon,” he said, speaking publicly for the first time. “These were guys were hand-selected by the chief based on their skills and abilities, and they are guys of the highest character.”

    Gallagher’s case was already simmering on the conservative talk show circuit when another service member, Maj. Mathew Golsteyn, an Army Green Beret, was charged last winter with killing an unarmed man linked to the Taliban in Afghanistan. On Dec. 16, barely minutes after a segment on “Fox & Friends,” Trump took to Twitter to say he would review the case, repeating language from the segment.

    In the tweet, Trump included the handle of Hegseth, who speaks regularly with the president and has been considered for top jobs in the administration. An Army veteran, Hegseth served three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan before heading two conservative veterans organizations “committed to victory on the battlefield,” as the biography for his speaker’s bureau puts it.

    Upset at what he sees as “Monday morning quarterbacking” of soldiers fighting a shadowy enemy where “second-guessing was deadly,” Hegseth has for years defended troops charged with war crimes, including Gallagher, Golsteyn and Lt. Clint Lorance, often appealing directly to the president on Fox News.

    “These are men who went into the most dangerous places on earth with a job to defend us and made tough calls on a moment’s notice,” Hegseth said on Fox in May. “They’re not war criminals, they’re warriors.”

    Hegseth found a ready ally in Trump, a graduate of a military high school who avoided serving in Vietnam as a young man citing bone spurs in his foot. Trump has long sought to identify himself with the toughest of soldiers and loves boasting of battlefield exploits to the point that he made up details of an account of a “whimpering” Islamic State leader killed in October.

    In March, the president twice called Richard Spencer, the Navy secretary, asking him to release Gallagher from pretrial confinement in a Navy brig, Spencer later wrote in The Washington Post. After Spencer pushed back, Trump made it an order.

    By May, Trump prepared to pardon both Gallagher and Golsteyn for Memorial Day, even though neither had yet faced trial. At the Pentagon, a conservative bastion where Fox News is the network of choice on office televisions, senior officials were aghast. They persuaded Trump to hold off. But that was not the end of the matter.

    In June, Gallagher appeared before a military jury of five Marines and two sailors in a two-week trial marred by accusations of prosecutorial misconduct. The medic who had been inches away from Gallagher changed his story on the stand, claiming that he was the one who killed the captive.

    In early July, the jury acquitted Gallagher on all charges but one: posing for a trophy photo with a corpse. He was sentenced to the maximum four months in prison and demoted. Having already been confined awaiting trial, he walked out of the courtroom a free man.

    “Congratulations to Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher, his wonderful wife Andrea, and his entire family,” Trump tweeted. “You have been through much together. Glad I could help!”

    The rest here....

    https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-interv...c_src=yahooapp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    You want to make a federal case of it Harry, carry on. You have a penchant for it.
    BTW, there is a political cartoon thread where you can post your cartoons. Keep them out of here.
    One of baldy orange cunto's tricks is to post fake news and then say later that he was "only joking". I'm just surprised at you doing it.

    As for baldy orange cunto cartoons, it's a baldy orange cunto thread, so get over it.

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    US President Donald Trump not to participate in impeachment hearing against him: Counsel

    Donald Trump nor his attorney will take part in the impeachment hearing against the US President on Wednesday, his lawyer has said, citing complete lack of "basic due process and fundamental fairness."
    Yes, it's just not fair. I mean people can ask any questions, and the witnesses have to tell the truth!

    Poor widdle baldy.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/world/stor...472-2019-12-02

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