Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Humbert

A hoax perpetrated by the New York Times? Sorry, that's ridiculous.

Wouldn't have to be by the NYT. Just someone shrewd enough to pass themselves off as one of trump's inner circle.

The NYT Trump mole is quite amusing, but at the same time demonstrating what's wrong with the current state of affairs in the deep state, basically the POTUS is a stooge and can be easily overridden administratively, and of course a Replican bragging about it like it was the normal thing to do, and the Dems applauding

can you imagine that if Obama had a number of his policies being "administratively" overridden because some in his staff disagree with him on certain topics and there is nothing that Obama could do about it ?

Thank you Trump for outing what's wrong with the administration of the office of the President

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Thank you Trump for outing what's wrong with the administration of the office of the President

...*cough*...tRump didn't "out" anything: credit goes to Woodward and the Unknown Administrator who wrote of his concern with KingBaby's presence in the Oval Office...and, of course, the myriad folks who leak stuff to the press on an hourly basis...

Originally Posted by tomcat

...*cough*...tRump didn't "out" anything: credit goes to Woodward and the Unknown Administrator who wrote of his concern with KingBaby's presence in the Oval Office...and, of course, the myriad folks who leak stuff to the press on an hourly basis...

disagree, such behaviors would have never be demonstrated in public without the constant help and participation of Trump

He is central to the outing, without him, there wouldn't have been any, and it would have been business as usual

no wonder Obama was such a complete failure, maybe he was overridden too by some kind of internal "resistance"

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

He is central to the outing, without him, there wouldn't have been any, and it would have been business as usual

Where did you come by this particular method of circular logic? Trump University?

Mr Earl hacked Dragonfly's account. Nobody else, except Rpeter, could have such convoluted and irrational reasoning supporting orange wanker..

Originally Posted by raycarey

this is truly crazy shit that as far as i know has never happened before.

It hasn't. This is uncharted territory.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Where did you come by this particular method of circular logic? Trump University?

hey, I am looking at the positive side of things

anyway, this is confirming what we all knew already, the POTUS is a spokeperson for his administration, he has no real power

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

he has no real power

We actually look to the President for leadership - a quality in which Trump is totally lacking. Power is the coin of dictators like Putin.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

But of course that might be a clever ruse by the real author.

...or authors...

Back to the mole. Pence is the only one that Trump can't fire.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Back to the mole. Pence is the only one that Trump can't fire.

MOM. Means, opportunity, motive. Pence is high on the list.

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he's a shifty opportunist, i'll give you that....but the risk involved is far too high for pence, IMO....if it comes out that he wrote it (and i think the author will be revealed eventually), he's finished in DC and whatever post-VP life he's planning is also in jeopardy.

Originally Posted by raycarey

^

he's a shifty opportunist, i'll give you that....but the risk involved is far too high for pence, IMO....if it comes out that he wrote it (and i think the author will be revealed eventually), he's finished in DC and whatever post-VP life he's planning is also in jeopardy.

Unless he's renounced God and wants to join the Dems.

Originally Posted by Humbert

We actually look to the President for leadership - a quality in which Trump is totally lacking. Power is the coin of dictators like Putin.

true leadership is power, but good points you raise

ACA was gutted, Iran deal was axed, the tax cut got pushed through, trump's served his purpose. Maybe not so much a resistance as the GOP trying to wrestle their party back from the trumpos.

Whoever wrote it is trying to pass himself off as a hero working for the greater good. I'm not buying it. He's spent the past 2 yrs being complicit (or more) in undoing what the prevoius admin did and now he's making a power play by stabbing his boss in the back.

Not the way to do things in a democracy.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Whoever wrote it is trying to pass himself off as a hero working for the greater good. I'm not buying it. He's spent the past 2 yrs being complicit (or more) in undoing what the prevoius admin did and now he's making a power play by stabbing his boss in the back.

Desperate times sometimes require desperate measures. If not for 'deep throat' the true sinister nature of the Nixon Watergate story would not have seen the light of day.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Whoever wrote it is trying to pass himself off as a hero working for the greater good. I'm not buying it. He's spent the past 2 yrs being complicit

as a group, they got what they really wanted (massive tax cut, SCOTUS picks, fed judges, and ridiculous deregulation) but now that they're up for re-election, trump's a clear liability. very few politicians like trump because he's an asshole....and that makes it that much easier to stick the knife in.


btw, two possible names of the op-ed writer: dan coats or larry kudlow. i heard this on a podcast from someone whose opinion i trust---john heilemann.

statement released a few minutes ago:

"The Vice President puts his name on his Op-Eds. The @nytimes should be ashamed and so should the person who wrote the false, illogical, and gutless op-ed. Our office is above such amateur acts."


— Jarrod Agen, Pence's communications director and deputy chief of staff

no ambiguity here, and the inclusion of 'our office' is deliberate.

I would guess that Pence isn't involved on a day to day basis with trump.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

the POTUS is a spokeperson for his administration, he has no real power

And he is very useful who to blame. It's quite difficult to blame the system - it does not have a name, neither a face.

The POTUS is thrown in the arena of the population. They can shout on him like in the Rome's Colosseum, throw stone on him.

First, he blame his predecessor, then the next one blames again him. And so forth (for over 200 years)...

Originally Posted by Humbert

Desperate times sometimes require desperate measures. If not for 'deep throat' the true sinister nature of the Nixon Watergate story would not have seen the light of day.

Had he come out a year ago I'd go along. His timing smells like political maneuvering. This guy and his pals spent the past 2 yrs picking and choosing which of trump's whims to enable and which ones to subvert. Not seeing how that is preferable over the constitutional crisis he claims he saved us all from.

Best thing trump could have done to save his job would have been to not sign the tax cut for another year or so.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^type slower, he still didn't get it

Oh oh yes he did just not into playing the one up game.