Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

freight rates would triple in the short term

You bring up a very valid issue and collateral damage from Trump's trade war. There must be other things that will be affected too, worldwide.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Personally, I believe that tariffs should be imposed if you are protecting a local manufacturer from overseas products.You should look after your own. However, it's a two way street. If you are protecting your own country, then you can't complain if somebody does the same to you. This is no different to what Thailand does now.


There is virtually no tariff on goods imported into NZ (Except booze,oil and ciggies).Been like this for almost 20 years now.The result is that we make almost nothing now except for Timber, meat and dairy. A slow death to our manufacturing Industry.

What Trump is doing, is saying that because they have a trade deficit with China, he wacks on a tariff for the sake of it The same people that he is trying to protect (on face value) are the same people that shop at Walmart and buy cheap Chinese crap.


What he doesn't understand is that the Chinese govt. might whip up Chinese nationalism so much, that a large portion of the population will shun American goods like the plague. They could cut off their nose despite their face and go much harder on US imported goods. This is where the concept of 'Face' rears its ugly head, no matter what the price.

Other Countries in SEA and South America must be licking their lips in the anticipation on being much more competitive.People will always buy cheap goods. If he stops them coming from China, they will still come from somewhere else.

The USA no longer have a national Sea Freight carrier. American President Lines was sold years ago to the Singaporeans, who then on sold to the froggies two years ago.

China has merged it's two national carriers and have just bought OOCL to make them probably the third largest carrier owner(COSCO), behind Denmark (Maersk) and Switzerland (MSC).

Any pull out of COSCO in the Trans Pacific trade, would mean that freight rates would triple in the short term )

I remember back in the 80s when Japan were dumping VCRs everywhere. I think it was France that didn't want to get in a trade war with tariffs, but basically throttled their imports by insisting that each and everyone had to be opened and inspected.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So his nominee for SCOTUS doesn't think presidents should be investigated or indicted while in office.

What is the rationale for that preposterous stance? Opinions of Supreme Court Justices should not just be heartfelt feelings but be built from considering the facts. A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence.

Why is the argument of "A man under investigation should not be able to select the judge who may hear his case" not being more forcefully pushed? It's a completely sane and reasonable argument.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

What is the rationale for that preposterous stance? Opinions of Supreme Court Justices should not just be heartfelt feelings but be built from considering the facts. A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence.

Why is the argument of "A man under investigation should not be able to select the judge who may hear his case" not being more forcefully pushed? It's a completely sane and reasonable argument.

So you don’t understand the US system do you.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

So you don’t understand the US system do you.

Whether I do or not makes no difference. In a sane and uncorrupt place, a man under investigation and who may face charges doesn't get to pick his judge. In any reasoned and rational justice system, judges should be making decisions based on the facts.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Whether I do or not makes no difference. In a sane and uncorrupt place, a man under investigation and who may face charges doesn't get to pick his judge. In any reasoned and rational justice system, judges should be making decisions based on the facts.

Are you suggesting Trump is picking the judge who would be presiding over anything he could be charged with?

^yeah cuz that would be corrupt ....

meanwhile....

Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka

Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka | Fortune

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^yeah cuz that would be corrupt ....

meanwhile....

Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka

Donald Trump's China Tariffs Don't Apply to Ivanka | Fortune

You meant to say they don’t apply to apparel,right.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You meant to say they don’t apply to apparel,right.

no.... i meant ivanka's shit gets a pass on the tariffs.

Who you talking to with 12 posters on ignore? Do you just like to see your words circulating on the net?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12086880

Trump has pardoned the ranchers that conducted an armed occupation of federal land.

Imagine if they had been black: not only likely not pardoned but even if they were it would have to be posthumous.



Edit: my bad I got my angry white dudes confused. These were the ones that burned shit, the armed occupation was in response to their jailing.

A free pass on domestic terrorism.

Originally Posted by mark45y

Most American legal scholars think sitting president cannot be indicted which is why CNN gets it's legal opinions from Europe and not experts in the USA.

What planet do you live on? Most American legal scholars DO NOT think that they are split. With regards to CNN that is an outright lie. So Mark do you just make this shit up as you go along?

Originally Posted by mark45y

If you are watching CNN and others like it you are not getting the correct info.

CNN's chief legal analyst is Jeffery Toobin. Toobin graduated from Harvard Law School magna cum laude with a J.D. in 1986 where Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan was a classmate of his. While there, he had been an editor of the Harvard Law Review. CNN also has Alan Dershowitz on regularly as well as John Dean the former White house counsel under Richard Nixon who was involved in the watergate coverup and ultimately turned on Nixon. To further pile it on they also regularly have Jill Wine-Banks the former Watergate prosecutor as well.

Maybe you could tell me which one of those is European Mark?

Originally Posted by mark45y

Ken Starr a respected attorney acquaintance of mine

Originally Posted by mark45y

So if you are going to bet on the issue the odds favor Trump over those who want to charge him with a crime while he is a President.

Bullshit.

Originally Posted by mark45y

besmirch my sterling reputation.

You are a fucking idiot and everyone on this forum thinks so. Why did you hide your repo if you have such a good reputation?

Originally Posted by aging one

Who you talking to with 12 posters on ignore?

Your PM mail box is full.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I remember back in the 80s when Japan were dumping VCRs everywhere. I think it was France that didn't want to get in a trade war with tariffs, but basically throttled their imports by insisting that each and everyone had to be opened and inspected.

Yep, very clever froggies. As any customs officer will tell you, just go strictly by the book if you want to be a prick.

So baldy orange cunto has been gobbing off again, this time whinging about NATO not spending enough to support American interests, and then claiming that Russia owns Germany.

The fucktard never ceases to amuse.

fucking love Trump, and he is right, we should get rid of NATO

Originally Posted by mark45y

Ken Starr a respected attorney acquaintance of mine

"So Elvis", I said, as we approached the moon...

Yeah, EU's got enough money and weapons these days to take care of themselves. Let them lead an the US can be support. EU's got better diplomacy now too.

Stupid anyways to depend on the US these days

completely, and we can have Russia, our big brother, to take care of us anyway