President Donald Trump

**harrybarracuda** · 27-11-2017, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

here comes harry, sitting down at the bar in the local pub.

starts talking politics with others and it ends up with harry showing his chav background by insulting those he disagrees with:

the bartender whispers to the guy talking to harry: "give harry a break, he gets quite emotional about politics and loses his shit."

And posts endless reams of shite to boot.

**Farangrakthai** · 27-11-2017, 08:04 PM

come on harry: you're an internet tough guy:

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Thick as fucking shite, I'd say.

**Topper** · 27-11-2017, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

ends up with harry showing his chav background by insulting those he disagrees with:

Didn't you just do the same thing to 'arry? After all, chav backgrounds aren't limited to South Africa and Zimbabwe.

**Farangrakthai** · 27-11-2017, 09:00 PM

ok, topper, you're the kind of guy who isn't afraid to take an opinion (like ant):

do you agree that trump should be impeached?

Tom Steyer defends $20M ad campaign calling to impeach Trump - CNNPolitics

Tom Steyer: American people want Trump impeached because he's an 'urgent threat'

**thailazer** · 27-11-2017, 09:06 PM

Watched CNN's "Why Trump Won" yesterday. Excellent analysis. Here are the closing remarks:

It worked. He won. Whether his solutions are even enacted is another matter. But the real victory will come for this country when someone looks at these deep forces that are dividing it and tries to construct a politics that will bridge them. Rather than accept that America must remain a country split between two tribes -- each uncomprehending of the other, both bitter and hostile -- he or she would speak in a language that unites them.
That kind of leadership would win not just elections -- but a place of honor in American history.

Zakaria: Why Trump won | National | host.madison.com

**Topper** · 27-11-2017, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

do you agree that trump should be impeached?

Yes, but that's my opinion. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know enough to give a factual reason for that opinion.

However, I'm pretty sure that showing bias towards any product is against the law for a sitting president. I also think that someone that is a blatant narcissist shouldn't be in a position to influence things to feed his narrative of himself, rather than the policies he should be espousing us to believe in.

However, that's my opinion. The reasons for myself deriving my opinion are based in fact. You might read the same facts and come to a different conclusion, thus the reason for this thread. Insulting intelligence or sexuality shouldn't really be allowed. Rigorous discussion without the chain of personal insults is what we should strive for. It's tedious to read and really only shows that it's not the discussing the facts in an adult manner that that's important to some, but being perceived as "right" when right in this case is your personal opinion.

**Farangrakthai** · 27-11-2017, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Insulting intelligence or sexuality shouldn't really be allowed. Rigorous discussion without the chain of personal insults is what we should strive for.

yep:

**Topper** · 27-11-2017, 09:22 PM

If I was CNN I would be right now filing a lawsuit against the president using his position to trash them while promoting Fox. It's one thing to suggest Cnn is fake. It's another to say he likes Fox in another tweet. But comparing both in one statement is endorsing a brand and I'm fairly sure it's against the law.

**uncle junior** · 27-11-2017, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

It's one thing to suggest Cnn is fake.

IMO...that's way too far for an elected official, especially president. and confuses me why CNN and the other news agencies he referring too is giving him a pass on it. The checks and balances in the gov't are seriously failing to hold him accountable for much of anything.

**Topper** · 27-11-2017, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

IMO...that's way too far for an elected official, especially president. and confuses me why CNN and the other news agencies he referring too is giving him a pass on it. The checks and balances in the gov't are seriously failing to hold him accountable for much of anything.

In my opinion (not based on fact, links or anything rolling around that I can quote) is that CNN and other news agencies are letting him hang himself, while they just report the news....

**harrybarracuda** · 27-11-2017, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

If I was CNN I would be right now filing a lawsuit against the president using his position to trash them while promoting Fox. It's one thing to suggest Cnn is fake. It's another to say he likes Fox in another tweet. But comparing both in one statement is endorsing a brand and I'm fairly sure it's against the law.

It's pointless. The only ones swallowing this shit are the retards that believed it the first time he said it.

Trrump is simply dog whistling to an ever decreasing number of morons.

**Topper** · 27-11-2017, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It's pointless.

I don't think anyone believes it.....at this point it's staying true to a fucked up belief in all things trump rather than accepting the fact that trump lies out his ass...but that's my opinion. His blatant lies are documented fact. Other may derive different opinions for the fact that Trump stated he'd done a "pass" at Time Magazine's man of the year award when Time never contacted him give me a huge laugh and should give his supporters some insight to his mindset.

Some people are too stupid or to much of a coward to question their beliefs and ask "Why". It's a part of the human condition.

**uncle junior** · 27-11-2017, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

is that CNN and other news agencies are letting him hang himself, while they just report the news....

Could be, no doubt they've had their lawyers size up the situation.

**Maanaam** · 28-11-2017, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Yes, but that's my opinion. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know enough to give a factual reason for that opinion.

However, I'm pretty sure that showing bias towards any product is against the law for a sitting president. I also think that someone that is a blatant narcissist shouldn't be in a position to influence things to feed his narrative of himself, rather than the policies he should be espousing us to believe in.

However, that's my opinion. The reasons for myself deriving my opinion are based in fact. You might read the same facts and come to a different conclusion, thus the reason for this thread.

Good post.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Insulting intelligence or sexuality shouldn't really be allowed. Rigorous discussion without the chain of personal insults is what we should strive for. It's tedious to read and really only shows that it's not the discussing the facts in an adult manner that that's important to some, but being perceived as "right" when right in this case is your personal opinion.

Good post for a different reason.

**bsnub** · 28-11-2017, 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Trrump is simply dog whistling to an ever decreasing number of morons.

A club that dipshit FRT belongs to.

**David48atTD** · 28-11-2017, 06:08 AM

How can he just keep fucking up ... has he no intrinsic empathy?

Donald Trump hits 'Pocahontas' Elizabeth Warren with jab at event honouring
Native Americans

US President Donald Trump has used an event honouring Native American veterans to take a shot at
Democratic senator Elizabeth Warren, whom he has long derided as "Pocahontas".

Mr Trump welcomed three Navajo code talkers from World War II to the Oval Office.
He called them "incredible" and "very special people".

During remarks praising their service, Mr Trump said:

"We have a representative in Congress who they say was here a long time ago.
They call her Pocahontas.
But you know what, I like you."

The President has repeatedly mocked the Massachusetts senator for claims she has made about being part Native American.

Native American leaders have called Mr Trump's past attacks on Ms Warren offensive and distasteful.
Some Democrats have called the remark racist.

Ms Warren quickly denounced Mr Trump's comments.

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**bobo746** · 28-11-2017, 06:18 AM

He should be impeached for being a f...wit.

**AntRobertson** · 28-11-2017, 09:29 AM

Here's an opinion piece that highlights just how utterly shit the GOP tax bill actually is and the hypocrisy involved from the likes of Ryan and McConnell:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.084f8b35ee4c

"As soon as Republicans shovel every dollar they can to the people who pay their party’s bills, he’ll [Ryan] dust off those old the-sky-is-falling quotes and warn about the deficits he helped to bloat. He’ll tell us how urgent it is to slash Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and programs for the needy (although he’ll try to bamboozle us again by claiming to be only “reforming” them)..."

It's astounding how many turkey's they've convinced to vote for Xmas.

**uncle junior** · 28-11-2017, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by David48atTD

How can he just keep fucking up ... has he no intrinsic empathy?

Donald Trump hits 'Pocahontas' Elizabeth Warren with jab at event honouring
Native Americans

With a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the background.....classless.

**Cujo** · 28-11-2017, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

With a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the background.....classless.

And cluelesss.

**Topper** · 28-11-2017, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by uncle junior

With a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the background.....classless.

That gave me a laugh....what a fuckwit....

**Maanaam** · 28-11-2017, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by CSFFan

That gave me a laugh....what a fuckwit....

Had to google.
"His presidency marked the beginning of the ascendancy of the "spoils system" in American politics. In 1830, Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act, which relocated most members of the Native American tribes in the South to Indian Territory. The relocation process dispossessed the Indians and resulted in widespread death and sickness."

Clueless and classless.

**bsnub** · 28-11-2017, 05:22 PM

So disgusting that it is not excusable. This was deliberately manufactured by his racist WH advisory staff. The fact that these war heroes had to pose in front of a portrait of the very scumbag who forced them onto reservations. Then followed up by the racist "Pocahontas" statement.

**bsnub** · 28-11-2017, 05:36 PM

Andrew Jackson was called ‘Indian killer.’ Trump honored Navajos in front of his portrait

The prominent placement of an Andrew Jackson portrait during an event meant to honor a group of Native Americans at the Oval Office on Monday has raised questions about the White House’s message.

Jackson is known for his harsh treatment of Native Americans as president, famously signing the Indian Removal Act, which led to thousands of Native American deaths as tens of thousands were forced to relocate. Some observers thought the juxtaposition of his portrait during the event with the stated purpose of honoring three Navajo code talkers was strange.

“We noticed,” said Jacqueline Peta, executive director of the National Congress of American Indians. “Andrew Jackson wasn’t necessarily a president who was respectful of tribal governments and Native Americans. This is one of those eras that is probably bleaker in terms of the relationship between Native Americans and the federal government.”

The portrait is visible for the entirety of the White House’s 17-minute broacast of the event.

As president from 1829 to 1837, Jackson is perhaps most famous for his pivotal role in the Native American’s painful and violent history in the United States. He signed the Indian Removal Act in 1830, which forced the relocation of more than 60,000 Native Americans to clear the way for white pioneers. The act helped lead to the “Trail of Tears,” in which an estimated 4,000 Cherokee died during the harsh conditions of a long march during a forced relocation in 1838 and 1839. The Cherokees called Jackson “Indian killer”; the Creek called him “Sharp Knife.”

A slave owner, Jackson spoke about Native Americans as if they were an inferior group of people. “Established in the midst of a superior race,” he said of the Cherokee, “they must disappear.”

Removing Native Americans from their land would “enable them to pursue happiness in their own way, and under their own rude institutions,” he said.

Trump’s affinity for Jackson has long been a facet of his public image as a politician. He lambasted an Obama administration plan, which has not yet taken effect, to remove Jackson from the $20 bill in favor of abolitionist Harriet Tubman, calling Jackson during the presidential campaign as someone with “a history of tremendous success for the country.” And just days after his inauguration in January, Trump selected a portrait of Andrew Jackson in the Oval Office. In March, he stopped by the Hermitage, Andrew Jackson’s home in Tennessee, to lay a wreath at the former president’s tomb. The president’s former chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, lauded Trump’s inauguration address as “Jacksonian.”

Peta said she wanted to assume the symbolism wasn’t intentional.

As the president spoke to honor the three code talkers Monday, he lobbed the nickname “Pocahontas” at Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren, which many consider to be a racial slur.

Gyasi Ross, an author from Washington state and member of the Blackfeet Nation tribe, said he considered the portrait’s prominence during the news conference to be an intentional slight.

“It’s an incredibly distasteful wink in front of people who have sacrificed so much,” he said. “Donald Trump is not a stupid man. He understands visuals and optics: his background is in television. So all of that stuff, I believe, is very deliberate.”

He said the insult was magnified by the nature of the event.

“Elders and veterans, we take those two things very seriously,” he said, speaking about Native Americans. “And so to people who take that seriously, all of these things are incredibly consequential.”

Mihio Manus, a spokesman for the president and vice president of the Navajo Nation, said the placement of the Jackson portrait was “unfortunate.”

When asked about the Pocahontas comment, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said that being offensive was “certainly not the president’s intent.” She did not answer a question about the Jackson painting that was shouted as she left the briefing room.

Trump has hosted conferences in front of the portrait before, like an economic announcement the president made this month. When Venezuelan activist Lilian Tintori met with the president and Vice President Pence in October, Trump had the group pose under the Jackson portrait and then posted the photo on Twitter. But there are plenty of other places to host a press event at the White House.

A remark Trump made to Congress in 1993 about owners of casinos not looking like Indians continues to draw scrutiny.

Some have compared Jackson, a populist who campaigned against elites and was known for being temperamental, to Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-his-portrait/

**Maanaam** · 28-11-2017, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Then followed up by the racist "Pocahontas" statement.

Get the nuance; "But I like you." Directed at the three in the room, as if to say all the others he doesn't like.

Originally Posted by bsnub

So disgusting that it is not excusable.

Yes, but sadly and so embarrassingly for the nation, not the only crass statement and action he's ever taken.

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