Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Slick

By all accounts he didn't really have anything to do with it other than his name.

Seems like that's the same excuse he's using for not meeting his campaign promises as well...

http://politistick.com/the-promo-vid...ily-familiar/#

Just like his campaign...

Snub,

You are still harping on about the EC and election results?

1. Get a life.

2. Start paying attention in 3 1/2 years.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Oh yes, perfectly normal. Ever work for a company that went belly up? It means somebody really fucked up big time. Mismanaged things very badly and had to go to court so your creditors and employees get screwed. A lot of people lose. But not the guy who declares bankruptcy.

Or it means it could not produce an income and nobody "Fucked Up".

I don't like it, but its perfectly legal and common practice. The thing is, you can't really fault a business for being a business. A lot of the things that people bang on Trump about are perfectly legal, common practice things. Taxes? Legal. Been going on forever. Obama knew about it, didn't even try to do anything about it. HRC knew about it, did nothing. Now all of a sudden its this big fat fukin deal because of Trump.

I agree, its bullshit, but everyone is banging on about Trump like somehow HRC was any better. HRC has less available dirt and so much plausible deniability from a lifetime in politics. Husband President. Pros. HRCs fuk ups are involving imo way more serious issues than taxes & Trump U.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Seems like that's the same excuse he's using for not meeting his campaign promises as well...

People bang on about this shit too. Sure there are going to be people that voted for "The Wall" and "Immigration" and OMG OMG LOLOLOL he's backtracking SUCKERS

But as you can see, the only ones complaining are the haters.

Most of the campaign was rhetoric. Most people know this. Same shit with HRC but with a condescending grandma tone of fake sympathy and 'equality' like she gave a fuk.

I hope they do something about immigration. Boot the goddam illegal immigrants right out on their ass. At the VERY least do something. Anything is an improvement over HRC and a Path to Citizenship. Fuk that.

Its good he's calming down. He needs to stfu and quit trolling the media too.

I still see plenty of good. WAY more than HRC would have ever brought to the table.

Originally Posted by Slick

Yep, Trump U was a flop.

It wasn't a flop. it was a scam. Are you an ostrich?

Originally Posted by Cujo

It wasn't a flop. it was a scam.

Fair enough, bad choice of words.

Now, its that 100% Trumps fault? 500+ Business and worth billions. Was Trump himself scamming people? Or was it a business venture he should not have put his money into?

Speaking objectively, my opinion is very unlikely. Trump himself was not scamming or intending to scam anyone. My gripe is the knucklehead media spinning it to look like trump himself was actively scamming people.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Slick

This one has been beaten to death as well. As much as people don't want to hear it, bankruptcy is part of the business plan. Does not make Trump the devil, rather a completely normal business person. The Trump Organization has over 500 businesses. Five Hundred + and thats a gross approximation. Yep, Trump declared bankruptcy on several businesses, what, like 5 or something? Its just how it works. You can not declare bankruptcy just because you feel like it either.

Oh yes, perfectly normal. Ever work for a company that went belly up? It means somebody really fucked up big time. Mismanaged things very badly and had to go to court so your creditors and employees get screwed. A lot of people lose. But not the guy who declares bankruptcy.

Humbert,

Yes, I have.

You're attitude is the loser mentality.

I chose to sell my labor and services. The company collapsed. I then moved on on.

It's a market: Alway has been; always will be.

If you want to whinge get a government job or start your own business.

You'll do neither.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He lost the popular vote by three million you numty. Where is your majority?

you are right, Trump won in a landslide

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Yes, I have.
You're attitude is the loser mentality.
I chose to sell my labor and services. The company collapsed. I then moved on on.
It's a market: Alway has been; always will be.

Incomprehensible. Do you mean your business failed or you worked for a company that failed? Companies fail. They fail because the people running them failed. It is not some freak phenomenon caused by a disruption in the cosmos.

I know that. (The company failed.) We agree.

And when they fail creditors and employees get hurt.

True. And it's a thing called "life."

Corporate bankruptcy is the definition of failure. Trump's Atlantic City casino failed because he ignored good advice and built a business based on a ridiculously flawed plan. All business fail because of somebody's mistakes in management. If you can't grasp that you shouldn't have been in business to begin with.

You and Snub should get a room.

You'll have to wait until the next election.

And the DNC needs to make MAJOR changes IMO, and I doubt it will.

This latest idea generated by the right that rural, non-urban America needs protection from the evil, liberal, elitist city dwellers is laughable. And the fallacy that the EC was created to do this is even more ridiculous. Most of America's wealth is generated in cities, most of America's research and higher education takes place in cities, most of America's arts and culture is found in it's cities. Most job growth takes place in cities. Cities are where people go for opportunity and a fulfilling and enriching life.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

You and Snub should get a room.

Posted from a basement in Spanaway.

Argument for and against the EC is valid but under the existing rules Trump won. Move along.

Keeping the EC in place is fine with me but flawed because of the winner take all the EC votes in all but 2 states. Winning by a single vote in a state gives all votes to one candidate. Hardly democratic as it nullifies the votes of near half the state's electorate. EC votes should be proportional as in Nebraska. Pending a constitutional amendment to require states to allocate proportional EC votes, it ain't going to change.

Ironically Hillary when running for the Senate pledged to introduce a constitutional amendment to change the EC rules. She didn't.

The EC is irrelevant. No use whatsoever.
Have they ever changed the outcome of an election?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Norton

Argument for and against the EC is valid but under the existing rules Trump won. Move along.

Moving on is not an option as reform is needed. The EC has outlived its usefulness and no longer even serves its intended purpose. I have been saying this for almost twenty years so this is not a new argument from me.

Russian meddling, EC reform....the plight of the inconsolable, crybaby libtards never ends!

Priceless, and ya still believe lying liberal media will save you, fogetabout, the lies will simply escalate until your widdle heads explode into the sunset...

Seems we have a new pathology; the precious little snowflake meltdown syndrome.

^Poor Earl. He can't move beyond his repetive little rants. You're spent Earl.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Moving on is not an option as reform is needed

Only option available for this election. Agree the EC is an archaic 18th century law and needs change. However if changed not going to change the outcome of this election. Move on and get it changed.

Originally Posted by Norton

Move on and get it changed.

This.

Originally Posted by Humbert

You're spent Earl.

He has been played out for a long time.

Originally Posted by Norton

However if changed not going to change the outcome of this election

Wasn't aware anyone was arguing that point.

Originally Posted by bsnub

This comment shows that you know fuck all about the constitution or the EC. That had absolutely nothing to do with its creation, in fact it was exactly the opposite. It's initial creation was intended to protect slave masters.

Just so, so fuckin wrong.

The Reason for the Electoral College - FactCheck.org

Originally Posted by Norton

Hardly democratic

We are not, and never have been a full democracy in this aspect.

The US is a Democratic Republic of 50 States. The founding fathers never intended for it to be a full democracy.