Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

they are all crying and hiding under their beds, because of all the Russians and Charlottesville Nazis going after them

Can ya imagine their abject fear/terror and self-loathing, of the Donald going for the low and slow pussy grab?

It is just beyond comprehension, it is indeed...

The horror, oh the horror....

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by tomcat

Mr Trump is against the political establishment

That's the perception being cultivated. I think it's complete bullshit.

It is however safe to say that the political establishment thinks orange cunto is a witless fucking twat, which probably creates some animosity on his part.

Originally Posted by Slick

We shall see how the midterms play out.

Indeed

But the biggest thing facing the USA scene is ...

THE DEBT CEILING

^Expect nothing less than epic obstruction, lefty meltdowns, CNN going full retard, and doomsday clock adjustments.

And somehow managing to call every conservative an alt-right racistbigottransphobe as well.

The debt ceiling thing is always such an epic flop as political theater. Like a bad rerun that gets played over and over.

They will pretend like there is some real crisis, then raise it just like they always do

Originally Posted by redhaze

The debt ceiling thing is always such an epic flop as political theater. Like a bad rerun that gets played over and over.

They will pretend like there is some real crisis, then raise it just like they always do

Yeah but now we have Drumpf.

He's literally Hitler.

He's worse than South African Apartheid politicians.

He's got the launch codes.

It won't change anything. The creditors still need their money

Originally Posted by SKkin

Originally Posted by tomcat

Mr Trump is against the political establishment

That's the perception being cultivated. I think it's complete bullshit.

Hegelian (dialectic) theatre is what it is.

Trump is the establishment's antithesis messenger boy.

What is the synthesis desired?

Some food for thought.

Trump is the GOP establishment, in the open: racist and oppressive. The GOP holds those values but doesn't campaign on them. It's their hidden agenda, communicated via dog whistles. Trump is just too ignorant, impetuous and irrational to realize that those values must be kept under cover.

Ironically, to get elected he smeared Hillary as a corporate shill, a puppet of the corporate class, and presented himself as a savior of the working class. If Hillary is a Wall street whore, Trump is a Wall street mamasan, a corporate puppet master, the real enemy of the working class. How the American people fell for this hypocrisy and deception is a testimony to the gullibility of Americans and shortcomings of democracy.

The synthesis, between two right wing parties vying over the spoils? First, the US needs a true working class party, a party that places working class interests above capital, like most of the democratic countries have in the developed world. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren could be a fresh start to challenge the corporate class of America.

Originally Posted by elche

The synthesis, between two right wing parties vying over the spoils? First, the US needs a true working class party, a party that places working class interests above capital

Come on now, that's called national socialism the very thing you rant against, or are you calling for something like government of the people, for the people, by the people, sounds like national socialism again.

Seems you want a dictator that tells you what's right, as long as it falls in your anti this anti that and it's PC.

Capitalism lives on, the rich control and you follow orders, so what type of government do you really want, not one that follows the will of the people, people may not want the system in place.

Thank the gods for General Kelly.


Kelly moves to control the information Trump sees

A new process, laid out in two memos circulating in the West Wing this week, is supposed to ensure Kelly vets everything that hits the Resolute desk.

Confronted with a West Wing that treated policymaking as a free-for-all, President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, John Kelly, is instituting a system used by previous administrations to limit internal competition — and to make himself the last word on the material that crosses the president’s desk.

It’s a quiet effort to make Trump conform to White House decision-making norms he’s flouted without making him feel shackled or out of the loop. In a conference call last week, Kelly initiated a new policymaking process in which just he and one other aide — White House staff secretary Rob Porter, a little-known but highly regarded Rhodes scholar who overlapped with Jared Kushner as an undergraduate at Harvard — will review all documents that cross the Resolute desk.

The new system, laid out in two memos co-authored by Kelly and Porter and distributed to Cabinet members and White House staffers in recent days, is designed to ensure that the president won’t see any external policy documents, internal policy memos, agency reports and even news articles that haven’t been vetted. Kelly’s deputy, Kristjen Nielson, is also expected to assume an integral role.

The keystone of the new system is a “decision memo” that will — for each Trump policy — integrate the input of Cabinet agencies and policy councils and present the president with various options, as well as with the advantages and drawbacks of each one.

The Kelly-Porter reforms are in many ways a reversion to the habits of previous administrations, particularly in their attempt to ensure competing views are completely and straightforwardly presented to the president.

more Kelly moves to control the information Trump sees - POLITICO

Originally Posted by misskit

Thank the gods for General Kelly.


Kelly moves to control the information Trump sees

A new process, laid out in two memos circulating in the West Wing this week, is supposed to ensure Kelly vets everything that hits the Resolute desk.

Confronted with a West Wing that treated policymaking as a free-for-all, President Donald Trump’s chief of staff, John Kelly, is instituting a system used by previous administrations to limit internal competition — and to make himself the last word on the material that crosses the president’s desk.

It’s a quiet effort to make Trump conform to White House decision-making norms he’s flouted without making him feel shackled or out of the loop. In a conference call last week, Kelly initiated a new policymaking process in which just he and one other aide — White House staff secretary Rob Porter, a little-known but highly regarded Rhodes scholar who overlapped with Jared Kushner as an undergraduate at Harvard — will review all documents that cross the Resolute desk.

The new system, laid out in two memos co-authored by Kelly and Porter and distributed to Cabinet members and White House staffers in recent days, is designed to ensure that the president won’t see any external policy documents, internal policy memos, agency reports and even news articles that haven’t been vetted. Kelly’s deputy, Kristjen Nielson, is also expected to assume an integral role.

The keystone of the new system is a “decision memo” that will — for each Trump policy — integrate the input of Cabinet agencies and policy councils and present the president with various options, as well as with the advantages and drawbacks of each one.

The Kelly-Porter reforms are in many ways a reversion to the habits of previous administrations, particularly in their attempt to ensure competing views are completely and straightforwardly presented to the president.

more Kelly moves to control the information Trump sees - POLITICO

Interesting. Has potential to become a pseudo regency. Ludicrous that it's required and goes somewhat against what a democracy is based on; The prez was elected to see those documents and decide on them.
Hilarious that Kelly feels that Trump needs to be protected from some of the news.
But Kelly is right.

Did Bernie Sanders Voters Give Trump the Presidency? | Alternet

New polling data indicate 12 percent cast their ballot for the Republican candidate.

Jason Le Miere

Posted with permission from Newsweek

Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump’s shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters’ refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.

Open link to read the entire article.

So a day after Mitch the Turtle said him and orange cunto are best buddies and working fine, orange cunto's off on Twatter again slagging him off.

Orange cunto is truly gormless.

Trump retweeted this LOL

Trump Tweet-Dares Intel Chief to Release “Beautiful Letter” That Was, in Fact, a Form Letter

One of President Trump’s favorite things is to tease private correspondence in public as a form of veiled threat or to sow doubt about whatever he’s peeved at that day—big or infinitesimally small. It’s usually an extortionate bluff from the president that suits his mafia boss mentality when it comes to dealing with other people. The latest such instance came on Thursday morning, when President Trump directed his daily Twitter tantrum at former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

Trump’s third person trash talking—fired off before many innocent Americans had had a chance to down their first cup of coffee—called out Clapper for his stinging rebuke of the president to CNN. The former intel chief went on television and questioned Trump's fitness to run the country following the president's fuming speech in Phoenix Tuesday night that Clapper characterized (rightly) as "downright scary and disturbing."

Donald J. Trump, with little else to do as president, took to social media to deploy his “you should see the letter/note/bouquet so and so sent me” technique of conflict resolution.


Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
James Clapper, who famously got caught lying to Congress, is now an authority on Donald Trump. Will he show you his beautiful letter to me?
5:15 PM - Aug 24, 2017

Will he? Come on Clapper, what about the "beautiful letter?” Release the letter! What are you doing writing beautiful letters anyway, Clapper? Don’t you have a phone like normal people? Too good to text? Sounds fishy. Lock… him… What were we talking about again? Ahh, yes, the letter. Will we ever get to the bottom of this letter thing? Sure, Clapper said. The intelligence veteran then went on CNN and explained the letter.

"The night before the election, we deployed two teams so that we would be ready to provide a PDB brief the next morning to whomever won," Clapper recounted, referring to the Presidential Daily Briefing. "I hand-wrote almost identical short notes to each of the two candidates to accompany the first brief as President-elect; only one actually got deployed—the one to him."

The note to Clinton, which went undelivered, congratulated her on her victory and said the intelligence community stood by to serve her with the best intelligence it could muster. The note to Trump said the same thing.

A form letter! Of course. In fairness, Trump may have never received a genuine compliment, so you could see how he mistook the canned sentimentality—from an employee. Clapper said the president thanked him three times for the “beautiful letter” that he also wrote to Hillary Clinton.

Trump tweet-dares Clapper to release ?beautiful letter? that was a form letter.

Begs the question... which is bigger: Trump's ego or his stupidity?

Originally Posted by raycarey

Twitter tantrum at former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. Trump’s third person trash talking—fired off before many innocent Americans had had a chance to down their first cup of coffee—called out Clapper for his stinging rebuke of the president to CNN. The former intel chief went on television and questioned Trump's fitness to run the country following the president's fuming speech in Phoenix Tuesday night that Clapper characterized (rightly) as "downright scary and disturbing."

Clapper was spot on...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Begs the question... which is bigger: Trump's ego or his stupidity?

Perhaps, he does not want to be accused of a racist (black) viewing...

New study on where Trump cranks got their news last election. As though we didn't know.

Trump backers’ alarming reliance on hoax and conspiracy theory websites, in 1 chart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0905241fc908

Originally Posted by elche

I don't think you understand or want to understand democracy either. After all, who ever said a fascist/corporatist respected people or democracy? Btw, corporatocracy, not capitalism, lives on. It's the corporate class that runs this world, especially the US, and Trump is every part of the corporate class.

If the Constitutional Republic of the USA was ever intended to be a government of by and for the people, it has gone horribly wrong.

The changeover from the Articles of Confederation to the CR system was at best misrepresented.

Hologram of Liberty by Kenneth Royce (aka Boston T. Party) at Javelin Press

Originally Posted by misskit

New study on where Trump cranks got their news last election. As though we didn't know.

Trump backers’ alarming reliance on hoax and conspiracy theory websites, in 1 chart

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0905241fc908

What I don't understand about the whole regurgitating fake news thing is why people just don't bother to check. I can understand wanting to believe something is true but it's not as though it's difficult to verify if it actually is or not.

If I think that X + X = Y and I read an article that says 'Newsflash! X + X = Y!' then I'm going to check as far as possible that it's correct if only so I don't end up looking like a fucking moron. Doesn't mean that I'm actually right 100% of the time but I'll sure as fuck do my best to check 100% of the time.

Not the echo-chamber though. Those clowns will just repeat even the most patently ridiculous and false info and then to add insult to their idiotic injury they turn around and expect others to disprove their idiotic blathering.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Those clowns will just repeat even the most patently ridiculous and false info and then to add insult to their idiotic injury they turn around and expect others to disprove their idiotic blathering.

the number of alt-right supporters who care about such things=0...