Thread: President Donald Trump

Jesus, just think how many posts this thread will have by the next election.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

What's really obvious is you've been wrong about Trump every step of the way.

Didn't he call Trump a lying sack of shit? That wasn't wrong....

Never mind, a lot of posting in this thread.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by koman

The trick in this kind of game is to be able to recognize the difference between simple and colorful campaign rhetoric and actual statements of intent. Clearly you can't tell the difference....which at this stage should not be a surprise to anybody.

And how did you characterize the Wall a few weeks ago?

The various interpretations of what Trumpies wall might be were explained to you, but as usual you did not understand because you are so busy calling people childish names or liars. Do you think all walls are the same..or that building a wall always means the same thing? There was no wall to characterize a few weeks ago, and we still don't know exactly what form it will take, ...get it?

Why don't you just wait and see. Imagine all the things you can complain about....type of material used, gender equality on construction teams, racial diversity on design team...the funding alone should keep you going for months.

On the list of important things to get done, it's probably well down the list, but as predicted you will want to harp on about it till the cows come home.

Originally Posted by koman

On the list of important things to get done, it's probably well down the list,

Unless it's keeping a major campaign promise....

Originally Posted by koman

but as predicted you will want to harp on about it till the cows come home.

As people are wont to do when promises aren't kept that were a cornerstone of little dick's election.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by koman

I just did....don't you read the post you respond to before asking questions like this? NAFTA...reopen= statement of intent....

Aren't treaties approved by the Senate? They're law, aren't they?

He can state intent....but let's face it, it's just intent.

Well what else would he do in an election campaign? Of course it's intent.

NAFTA is a trade agreement....with an opting out clause. Something like 30 days notice if I remember. Anyway he said that it would be re-opened/re-negotiated and it will be; quite soon I would expect. It may well be amended and improved in some areas but not likely to be cancelled.

The main concern for Trump and company is the imbalance in the arrangements with Mexico. Canada is not really a problem because the trade is well balanced and the playing field is about as level as you can get. Not so with the folks to the South.

Originally Posted by koman

Well what else would he do in an election campaign? Of course it's intent.

Apparently, some people think his "intent" is instantly translating into action. That's going to be a wake up call for Trump I think.

Originally Posted by koman

NAFTA is a trade agreement....with an opting out clause. Something like 30 days notice if I remember. Anyway he said that it would be re-opened/re-negotiated and it will be; quite soon I would expect. It may well be amended and improved in some areas but not likely to be cancelled.

The main concern for Trump and company is the imbalance in the arrangements with Mexico. Canada is not really a problem because the trade is well balanced and the playing field is about as level as you can get. Not so with the folks to the South.

NAFTA is an Congressional agreement which the president can fuck with and not a treaty.

Here's a question...if NAFTA is so good for Mexicans and the Mexican economy, why do Mexicans still seek to cross the border looking for employment?

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by koman

Well what else would he do in an election campaign? Of course it's intent.

Apparently, some people think his "intent" is instantly translating into action. That's going to be a wake up call for Trump I think.

Originally Posted by koman

NAFTA is a trade agreement....with an opting out clause. Something like 30 days notice if I remember. Anyway he said that it would be re-opened/re-negotiated and it will be; quite soon I would expect. It may well be amended and improved in some areas but not likely to be cancelled.

The main concern for Trump and company is the imbalance in the arrangements with Mexico. Canada is not really a problem because the trade is well balanced and the playing field is about as level as you can get. Not so with the folks to the South.

NAFTA is an Congressional agreement which the president can fuck with and not a treaty.

Here's a question...if NAFTA is so good for Mexicans and the Mexican economy, why do Mexicans still seek to cross the border looking for employment?

It's obviously not to do with getting a job as Mexico has low unemployment, so I guess higher wages and better life expectancy in the US and being on the right side of the wall!!!!

Originally Posted by buriramboy

It's obviously not to do with getting a job as Mexico has low unemployment.....

So I'd guess illegal immigration has gone down from years in the past. After all, what you say does seem reasonable.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

What's really obvious is you've been wrong about Trump every step of the way.

Didn't he call Trump a lying sack of shit? That wasn't wrong....

You still don't get it, do you! (likely you never will)

Trump has beaten the media at their own game, and continues to so at every turn.

All the while The Donald is taking the reality game show of President to an entirely new level.

Most of the liberal media cannot or simply will not see it.
So trapped they are in their cocoons of sanctamonious progressive globalism.

You really should be enjoying this rather remarkable and unique monent in history unfold.
(I certainly am enjoying every moment)

When you tire of being stuck on stupid, and decide to think for yourself.
Please do so. It is entirely up to you.

Are most illegal immigrants actually Mexicans though? I thought every Tom, Dick and Harry just used Mexico as a crossing point. Can't Mexicans just cross legally at a border post?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

All the while The Donald is taking the game of President to an entirely new level.

Do you really think that there's any context where the job of being president is a "game"?

Originally Posted by Humbert

A smallish project

I don't believe anyone said it was a smallish project.....but it is filling in gaps in an existing series of walls and fences. The photos show that there are existing walls do they not.....so what would it be then, if not filling in the gaps?

My personal view of this wall thing is that it's not really a great idea anyway, and it probably would not be that effective in preventing people and/or drug smuggling. It does make it harder, but that's all.

As far as helping Mexico.....yes their economy has been doing quite well,(relatively speaking)...and why is that?....because your dear leaders have allowed it to prosper at the expense of their domestic economy.....We can expect that the drug cartels have been doing especially well. Expect Trump to realign the trade deal and make it less advantageous to move everything south of the border. It does not have to cut off trade, just make it more equitable. Nobody want's to kill off poor old Mexico.

Originally Posted by Humbert

more Mexicans returned to their homeland than crossed the borders illegally i

If people are being smuggled into the US they don't even know who or how many.... they only know about the ones they catch, so you can make up any numbers you like...or just ignore that it's happening....that's quite a popular left wing liberal position and like so many of their positions; more like the way they would like things to be, rather than the way things are.

Originally Posted by koman

if not filling in the gaps?

Apparently there's about 12 BILLION dollars of gaps...

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Trump is the very first President who doesn't play by the old school politics of military adventurism and corporate pandering.

As he threatens China over their expansion into the South China Sea and sucking Carrier's dick?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Trump is the very first President who doesn't play by the old school politics of military adventurism and corporate pandering.

saved for posterity.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Trump is the very first President who doesn't play by the old school politics of military adventurism and corporate pandering.

saved for posterity.

Trump has been a democrat all his life, so will see

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Trump is the very first President who doesn't play by the old school politics of military adventurism and corporate pandering.

you cnuts are so screwed

every corporate nutsack is being nibbled in less than a week

you will being paying for the air used by your cars before the end of the year

the govt sanctioned rent seeking is about to expand as fast as laws can be written

"We are writing to ask that you close the docket on the set-top box proceeding... and signal clearly to consumers, content producers, consumer electronics manufacturers, and video programming distributors that the Commission's consideration of the set-top box proposal is at an end," House Republicans wrote to Pai today.

In his fifth day as president of the United States, Donald Trump signed an executive order titled "Enhancing Public Safety in the Interior of the United States." The order seeks to criminalize sanctuary cities — cities that shelter undocumented immigrants and oftentimes don't inquire about one's immigration status — by cutting off their federal funds as well as to "ensure that aliens ordered removed ... are promptly removed." Also, the order states that the government will "support victims, and the families of victims, of crimes committed by removable aliens."

To "better inform the public regarding the public safety threats associated with sanctuary jurisdictions," Trump ordered that a weekly list of "criminal actions committed by aliens" and the sanctuary cities that house them be released to the public.

https://mic.com/articles/166718/trum...nts#.wjY3MSHcV

Seems Mexico a bit butt hurt about having to pay for the wall and now their president not going to visit the Donald.

Seems quite a few snowflakes melting at the State department too, the poor little things don't want to serve The Donald and have resigned.

meanwhile outside lalaland trump keeps on winning. Approval rating at 59%

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports?

China has got the hump now..

^ do you think that's a sign of a chink in their armour?