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    Ken Livingstone suspended by Labour Party in 'anti-Semitism' row

    Ken Livingstone has been suspended by the Labour Party over comments he made while defending an MP at the centre of an anti-Semitism row.
    The former London mayor will be investigated for "bringing the party into disrepute".
    Leader Jeremy Corbyn says Labour has "zero tolerance" of anti-Semitism.

    Labour MP John Mann, who accused Mr Livingstone of being a "Nazi apologist" in a confrontation outside a BBC studio, has been reprimanded.
    Mr Mann had been referring to comments Mr Livingstone made about Adolf Hitler.
    A Labour spokesman said Mr Mann was told it was "completely inappropriate for Labour Members of Parliament to be involved in very public rows on the television" and the backbench MP "fully accepted and understands this".

    The row was prompted by the suspension of Labour MP Naz Shah over comments she made about Israel on social media.

    Labour criticism of Mr Livingstone mounted when he appeared on BBC Radio London defending Naz Shah - and said he had never heard anyone in the Labour Party say anything anti-Semitic.
    He added: "When Hitler won his election in 1932 his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews."

    Asked about the confrontation on the BBC's Daily Politics, Mr Livingstone said: "He (Mr Mann) went completely over the top... I have had that with John Mann before."
    But Mr Mann stood by his remarks, saying: "He is a Nazi apologist."

    Mr Livingstone said he was not suggesting Hitler was a Zionist, saying the Nazi leader was "a monster from start to finish", but he said he had simply been quoting historical "facts".

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said Mr Livingstone had been suspended amid "very grave concerns about the language he used in the interview this morning" and would face an investigation by the party.
    He added: "Anybody that thinks this party is not cracking down on anti-Semitism is simply wrong. We have suspended where appropriate, we have investigated all cases. We will not tolerate anti-Semitism in any form whatsoever in the party."

    On Wednesday Labour MP Naz Shah was suspended by the party, pending an investigation, over comments she made on Facebook before she became an MP, including a suggestion that Israel should be moved to the United States.
    She has apologised for the comments - but it sparked fresh claims from senior Labour figures that the party is not doing enough to tackle growing anti-Semitism in its ranks.

    Naz Shah apologised on Wednesday for comments she made on social media before she became an MP
    Labour's mayoral candidate Sadiq Khan said: "Ken Livingstone's comments are appalling and inexcusable. There must be no place for this in our party."

    Explaining his stance, in a BBC News Channel interview, Mr Livingstone said: "Naz is not anti-Semitic - she was completely over the top, what she said was rude, but I literally, during the 47 years I've been in the Labour Party, I've never heard anyone say anything anti-Semitic.
    "I've heard a lot of people being critical of Israel, but if I was to denounce the South African government, you wouldn't say I was racist.
    "And one of my worries is this confusion with anti-Semitism and criticising the Israeli government policy undermines the importance is tackling real anti-Semitism."

    But Jonathan Arkush, president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, said Mr Livingstone's comments were "abhorrent and beyond disgraceful".
    "He denies anti-Semitism in Labour when the evidence is there for all to see. He lacks any sense of reality and decency. He must now be expelled from the Labour Party."

    Prime Minister David Cameron said it was "quite clear the Labour Party has got a problem with anti-Semitism" adding: "They've got to deal with it."
    Jeremy Corbyn denies crisis as Ken Livingstone suspended - BBC News

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    What did Livingstone say that was anti-Semitic?

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    How should Ken Livingstone have said it then? I dont see anything especially bad about this comment. Its not as if he's endorsing the holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    "When Hitler won his election in 1932 his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews."
    Aside from perpetuating the 6 million fallacy, he is spot on. Funny how the zionist and israel lobby swung into action to destroy him after uttering one of their little secrets that they try so hard to hide. Hitler was a Zionist.

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    I thought you'd like that, but I doubt that he was in any way a Zionist, but let's see how this spins.

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    Ken Livingstone being lynched? I don't like that at all. Bet you do thouugh - waving your little blue and white flags out the window I assume


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    Nope, mine's white red and green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    What did Livingstone say that was anti-Semitic?
    Nothing from what I saw

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    Quote Originally Posted by boloa View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    What did Livingstone say that was anti-Semitic?
    Nothing from what I saw
    Just the LabCon Friends of Israel flexing its muscles. Usually they do this to keep politicians quiet before Bibi starts another slaughter of his captives.

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    The incident is more indicative of the complete shambolics that is now Labour UK.

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    I'm watching the news on the BBC. Apparently the problem is he supported another MP (Naz Shah).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    BBC.
    FYi Google James HArding , you will not hear anything true about this on the BBC

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    The previous leader of the Labour party for 4.5 years, Ed Milliband, is Jewish- and his brother, David is also a senior Labour MP and ex-Cabinet member. Even that wasn't enough to keep the Zionists happy, and now we're being told Labour has a 'Jewish problem'. Poppycock. Apparently, nothing less than de facto 'recognition' of the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine is enough to satisfy these people. Ain't gonna happen- UK Parliament recognised the state of Palestine by a vote of 274-12, in 2014.
    Last edited by sabang; 29-04-2016 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Naz Shah).
    posted this on twitter


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    All Naz Shah wrote is that 'Israel should be moved to the United States' before she became MP. Those were her words and her opinion. She got elected to her office based on her words, didn't she.
    I don't have any problem with someone voicing their opinion...as long as they don't have a problem with me expressing mine.

    I thought it would be more appropriate that Israel be moved to Britain since Britain made the promises and told the lies that created what is essentially now the ME. It's time that Britain takes responsibilty.
    (I've been informed that most Israelis don't enjoy the weather in Britain as it does strange things to the mind. Additionally the shwarmas are much better in the ME.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    All Naz Shah wrote is that 'Israel should be moved to the United States' before she became MP. Those were her words and her opinion. She got elected to her office based on her words, didn't she.
    bullshit - she posted up the picture above onto twitter. It is funny. Stop making stuff up you stupid zionist twat.

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    Psue...the OP article stated the word "move"...the post you put up reads "relocate"...so WTF is your problem ?
    I wrote that Britain created the issue so why shouldn't Britain take in either 6 Million Israelis and/ or 6 Million disenfranchised Mandaters ...as in descendants of those under the rule of the British Mandate.

    You're really disturbed. Time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Naz Shah).
    posted this on twitter

    If this is what Naz Shah posted... good for her. No wonder that she got elected by her constituents.
    So why is she apologizing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I thought you'd like that, but I doubt that he was in any way a Zionist, but let's see how this spins.
    Hitler wasn't a zionist, of course, but he made a deal with zionists, the Havaara Agreement. That's what Livingston was referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeeCoffee
    So why is she apologizing ?
    because its a load of bollocks ?
    peace in the middle east if Israel left
    ahahaahahahahaha
    the Muslims and Arabs have never been at peace

    if they wanted peace they would build a wall around Israel and ignore them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    if they wanted peace they would build a wall around Israel and ignore them .
    which they would knock down, and continue there advancement to the greater israel.

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    Israel the victim in all this, always the victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I'm watching the news on the BBC. Apparently the problem is he supported another MP (Naz Shah).
    You mean the anti-Semitic Muslim bitch Naz Shah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The previous leader of the Labour party for 4.5 years, Ed Milliband, is Jewish- and his brother, David is also a senior Labour MP and ex-Cabinet member. Even that wasn't enough to keep the Zionists happy, and now we're being told Labour has a 'Jewish problem'. Poppycock. Apparently, nothing less than de facto 'recognition' of the illegal Israeli occupation of Palestine is enough to satisfy these people. Ain't gonna happen- UK Parliament recognised the state of Palestine by a vote of 274-12, in 2014.
    Your view of UK Jewry is stuck in a place where the sun never shines.

    Labour has a problem alright, it's a Muslim problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I thought you'd like that, but I doubt that he was in any way a Zionist, but let's see how this spins.
    Hitler wasn't a zionist, of course, but he made a deal with zionists, the Havaara Agreement. That's what Livingston was referring to.
    Hitler made an even bigger deal with the Arabs.

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