Thread: Israel will never withdraw from Golan Heights - Netanyahu

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Of course we can all offer our opinions and show maps etc , but at the end of the day its not about land at all , its about the wishes of most of the Arab nations to exterminate the Israeli's and make the land of Israel one big Islamic Caliphate , has there ever been a Country called Palestine ? Whats their capital , lingo and currency ? History of Palestine and Palestinians

No.

Arabs never referred to the area as Palestine either, until a load of pro-Arab western flunkeys started to get all PC about the lot of the squawking Israeli Arabs living mainly in Jordan, and after the 1967 Arab Israeli war where Israel kicked a^se out of the Arabs as they massed to attack and exterminate Israel.

As it was, Israel handed back most of the territory captured from the cowardly Arabs in that war and imposed it's own borders along newer, far more defensible lines, including the Golan and the Jordan river in it's new border with the Arabs.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by piwanoi

Of course we can all offer our opinions and show maps etc , but at the end of the day its not about land at all , its about the wishes of most of the Arab nations to exterminate the Israeli's and make the land of Israel one big Islamic Caliphate , has there ever been a Country called Palestine ? Whats their capital , lingo and currency ? History of Palestine and Palestinians

No.

Arabs never referred to the area as Palestine either, until a load of pro-Arab western flunkeys started to get all PC about the lot of the squawking Israeli Arabs living mainly in Jordan, and after the 1967 Arab Israeli war where Israel kicked a^se out of the Arabs as they massed to attack and exterminate Israel.

As it was, Israel handed back most of the territory captured from the cowardly Arabs in that war and imposed it's own borders along newer, far more defensible lines, including the Golan and the Jordan river in it's new border with the Arabs.

Yeah it must be a sore point for the Arabs cos although the Israeli's was vastly outnumbered in all departments in the 6 day war they still kicked arse

I can't help but note the paradox in play from certain posters in this thread who routinely and vociferously condemn 'Mooslim terrorists!' yet are apparently (and conspicuously), willfully or otherwise, oblivious to Jewish terrorism against the British Mandatory authority and Palestinian Arabs prior to the formation of Israel including but not limited to the assassination of Lord Moyne, bombing of the BMA admin center at the King David Hotel, killing of UN mediator Folke Bernadotte, and scores of Palestinians and Brits - i.e. the use of murder and terror to get what they wanted, the formation of a Jewish state.

One mans terrorist and all that, eh.

Ant, yes the pot calling the kettle black syndrome.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. It happens all over the world.

Oh ! - are you a Kiwi?
I'm sure the natives that were starving to death before English came to rescue the Islands are happy with the result.
Still a good thing you've got a few to play on the All Blacks, eh.
History is funny that way.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Oh ! - are you a Kiwi?

Aye, I am.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

Still a good thing you've got a few to play on the All Blacks, eh.

Completely off topic I know, but I've just seen an article that they won team of the year at the Laureus World Sports Awards.

Surprising but deserved result.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Jewish terrorism against the British Mandatory authority and Palestinian Arabs prior to the formation of Israel including but not limited to the assassination of Lord Moyne, bombing of the BMA admin center at the King David Hotel, killing of UN mediator Folke Bernadotte, and scores of Palestinians and Brits

Minor stuff. Not a single case of groping innocent yerman women.

I read how the USA's getting all hoity-toity (along with Germany) in condemning Israel's annexation of the Golan, while never having uttered a peep about Jordan's annexation of the West Bank Israel, in 1950.

Poor victim israel. Poor little israelis. They never do anything wrong.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

I can't help but note the paradox in play from certain posters in this thread who routinely and vociferously condemn 'Mooslim terrorists!' yet are apparently (and conspicuously), willfully or otherwise, oblivious to Jewish terrorism against the British Mandatory authority and Palestinian Arabs prior to the formation of Israel including but not limited to the assassination of Lord Moyne, bombing of the BMA admin center at the King David Hotel, killing of UN mediator Folke Bernadotte, and scores of Palestinians and Brits - i.e. the use of murder and terror to get what they wanted, the formation of a Jewish state.

One mans terrorist and all that, eh.

Also who wins writes the history, The history is still being written by the zionists, enforced and propagandized by the ADL and AIPAC which apparently is where ENT gets all of his fake information from using their best lies and deceits to justify a load of white skinned europeans claiming sovereignty on an arab land.... because GOD told them it was alright. Well I think that they need to prove their God said this and until then, they should be made to pack up and go back to Germany and Miami.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Also who wins writes the history, The history is still being written by the zionists, enforced and propagandized by the ADL and AIPAC which apparently is where ENT gets all of his fake information from using their best lies and deceits to justify a load of white skinned europeans claiming sovereignty on an arab land.... because GOD told them it was alright. Well I think that they need to prove their God said this and until then, they should be made to pack up and go back to Germany and Miami.

Who the hell are the ADL and AIPAC? I've never heard of them.

The only fake info posted on this thread is your off-topic comments and anti-Semitic bigotry.

You're spouting the same old puerile uni-student-demo-left wing propaganda and mis-information that's been floating around since you were just out of short pants.

The only ones running around saying that some sky fairy's been giving them orders in the Arab/Jew conflict have been the carpet-licking Muslim Arabs in their drive to exterminate Jews.

Going by your waffle that Jews should stay in the lands that they came from before they emigrated to Israel is only going to end in further persecution of Jews, something that you seem quite happy about.

Jews have been leaving Europe for Israel at an increasing rate in the last year as your brand of anti-Semitism proliferates. The same goes for Jews forced to leave all Arab countries due to increased persecution of their limited communities there.

And while you're at it, get it out of your head that Palestine was ever an Arab or Muslim land until the Ottomans started to populate it, they were a minority until then, as there weren't any Muslims around there until the late 7th Century.

Arabs only started to move into Palestine en mass after 1921, until then, half the population (aprox) were Arab and the rest were Xtian and Jews, in fact.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Poor victim israel. Poor little israelis. They never do anything wrong.

There's good and bad in all, but your blatant anti-Semitic bigotry founded on nothing but lies and Islamofascist propaganda shows that your interest in any kind of truth or justice or equal rights in the conflict is severely limited.

Originally Posted by ENT

Who the hell are the ADL and AIPAC? I've never heard of them.

They are the zionist enforcers who shaped your education and all of the fauz "information" you read and believe. But you know that, don't ya, petal, but you like living your life of ignorance.

Originally Posted by ENT

anti-Semitic bigotry

Bibi and all of the ashkanazi jewish population of israel are not semites though. They are european. In fact it is your lies and deceit that you are spreading that is founded from your anti semitism.... because the only semities in Israel and Palestine are the Palestinians and the Mizrahi jews, both of which receive special attention from the zionist goons and their cheer squads around the world,

AIPAC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel..._United_States


ADL : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

anti-Semitic bigotry

Bibi and all of the ashkanazi jewish population of israel are not semites though. They are european. In fact it is your lies and deceit that you are spreading that is founded from your anti semitism.... because the only semities in Israel and Palestine are the Palestinians and the Mizrahi jews, both of which receive special attention from the zionist goons and their cheer squads around the world,

You are totally deluded claiming that,"the only semites in Israel and Palestine are the Palestinians and the Mizrahi jews",

Ashkenazi Jews are regarded by Jews as being as much Jewish as Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, as all are Jews either by descent or conversion.

Your idea that Ashkenazis aren't Jews genetically is also absurd, as they descend from a small group of Jews 'bottle-necked' in Europe around 700 years ago.

Jews can be of any skin, hair and eye colour, white, brown, red-haired blond or black, with blue green or brown eyes, and they don't have to be descended from a Jewish mother to be a Jew either, as many Jewish males took on non-Jewish wives in both Biblical times and later, who converted to Judaism.

You could try reading this article on Jewish DNA and open your mind a bit.
It blows holes out of the German origins theory of Ashkenazi Jews.

https://www.geneticliteracyproject.o...study-asserts/

Another thing, Semites include Jews, genetically and their language is also called Semitic, but as with all lineages, admixture with other lineages occur to some degree or other.

Judaism is a religion, not a race, and not all Israelis are Jewish, and many don't practice Judaism at all.

You too can become a Jew if you so sincerely wish.

But the rabbi you go to see for studies and instruction in Judaism will do his best to dissuade you from converting.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

AIPAC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel..._United_States


ADL : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League

I've never read their stuff or had to refer to those groups, much as Pseudo would like to believe.

Anti-Semites will not hesitate to stoop to the lowest of lies to discredit Judaism, par for the course, as such slurs are a fascist cultural nicety.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Who the hell are the ADL and AIPAC? I've never heard of them.

They are the zionist enforcers who shaped your education and all of the fauz "information" you read and believe. But you know that, don't ya, petal, but you like living your life of ignorance.

Nah, you've been sucking up the 'in-crowd' headscarf/towel head wearing brigade's lies and distortions.

Don't you know that Muslims tell lies, lots and lots of lies, even to each other in order to protect themselves and their pals, all the time, Allah and Mohammed told them to.

And you believe all their b*llsh*t. Great, eh?

Don't forget that Arabs are also Semites.

Absolutely true.

And if the criterion for being a Jew and being entitled as of right to live in Israel, was based solely on being of Semitic descent from the mother, Israel would be full of inbred, bi-polar, and half-witted, congenitally diseased Arabs by now, ....on benefits for life.

Originally Posted by ENT

Ashkenazi Jews are regarded by Jews as being as much Jewish as Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, as all are Jews either by descent or conversion.

Can not be converted to be jewish - you have to be BORN jewish by a jewish mother. So when all the Khazari's from eastern europe CONVERTED to be jewish, and then 700 years later decided to have ISrael, they were not by strict definition, Jewish.

Originally Posted by ENT

Absolutely true.

And if the criterion for being a Jew and being entitled as of right to live in Israel, was based solely on being of Semitic descent from the mother, Israel would be full of inbred, bi-polar, and half-witted, congenitally diseased Arabs by now, ....on benefits for life.

No, isreal wouldn't exist and the world would be a much more peaceful place.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Ashkenazi Jews are regarded by Jews as being as much Jewish as Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews, as all are Jews either by descent or conversion.

Can not be converted to be jewish - you have to be BORN jewish by a jewish mother. So when all the Khazari's from eastern europe CONVERTED to be jewish, and then 700 years later decided to have ISrael, they were not by strict definition, Jewish.

That's a myth. Go ask a rabbi.

Who said all that, "all the Khazari's from eastern europe CONVERTED to be jewish"..?

Nobody.

Read that article on Jewish genetics that I posted the link to.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by ENT

Absolutely true.

And if the criterion for being a Jew and being entitled as of right to live in Israel, was based solely on being of Semitic descent from the mother, Israel would be full of inbred, bi-polar, and half-witted, congenitally diseased Arabs by now, ....on benefits for life.

No, isreal wouldn't exist and the world would be a much more peaceful place.

Like hell it would.

Fascists would just find another scapegoat for their problems and inbred mat-lickers would be ruling Europe.