Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

You may be right ENT and I can not say you are wrong since I do not know for sure.

In all my years in the pharmacy business, I never asked a drug rep where they obtained their raw material for opioid type drugs. I do know that there were several occasions that we could not obtain morphine, meperidine and other opiods due to the lack of raw materials. In fact, if you go on the FDA drug shortage list right now, you will see many drug shortages due to lack of raw materials.

Shortages happen because the production is so localized,, it's easy for rain at the wrong time of the year to ruin the Tasmanian crop and the production houses are legally bound to not stockpile more than 8 months supply.
For this reason they have started poppy farming on the mainland this year. On a vast scale.

Opiate farming and production is probably the most regulated industry on earth next to nukes, I just don't see how a company like Glaxo could get away with producing say twice as much finished product as their known raw material intake would allow for.

Mexico, China, Russia may be markets,

Anyway, IS are after the loot, guns for drugs and oil.

Who's buying/supplying?

Who're the main armaments manufacturers involved in ME/Caucasus unrest?
Who's making the money?
Vested US/coalition interests in Afghanistan now lead to this;



Our View: ISIS in Afghanistan means we can't pull troops out
Thursday, March 19, 2015 12:00 am

Plans to cut the number of U.S. forces remaining in Afghanistan nearly in half by year's end, withdrawing the rest next year, are off the table.

The White House concedes it will pursue slower-paced troop reductions, though exact numbers haven't been given.

ISIS, the Islamic State or Daesh, as it is also called, has extended its reach into parts of Afghanistan.

The presence is still small and not coordinated with the primary sources of extremism there, the remnants of the Taliban and al-Qaida. Except that some former factions of those groups have now pledged themselves to ISIS.

Until recently, ISIS has confined most of its activities to Syria and Iraq. But extremist groups in other places, such as Libya, have begun aligning themselves with ISIS, the most extreme of them all.

Until ISIS and other sources of strife have been destroyed or driven out of Afghanistan for good, the U.S. must maintain a strong and effective presence.

Excerpted from;
Our View: ISIS in Afghanistan means we can't pull troops out - Fayetteville Observer: Editorials

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Aĺl gòod and well Necron, but hospitals are not allowed to buy foreign drugs to treat patients. All supplies must come from an American source.

A couple of years back, common chemotherapy medications could not be obtained for many patients due to a shortage. Just another way the drug companies have a strangle hold on American hospitals and pharmacies. Believe me, I thouht many times how nice it would be to obtain medications from Canada or Mexico, but the FDA would not allow it. In all my years in hospitals, there was only one time I saw the FDA allow foreing meds to be used. That was when there was a Propofol shortage which was used extensively in intensive care patients for sedation. German Propofol was allowed to be used in US hospitals for a short period of time. We had to revert to older, less controllable drugs like dilaudid and diazepam for IV sedation.

If you are talking about illegal drugs, then your argument holds true.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Most Afghan opium goes directly to the Russian black market were heroin addiction is rife.

What most of 6,400 tons of it?

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

a) By diminishing the Afghanistan illegal drug trade, it should also diminish ISIS is what I am hearing then.

b) Not really part of the legitimate pharmaceutical business or Big Pharma, IMO.

a) That's the assumption.

b) True.

Hypocrites.

It was stated today by NBC News that ISIS is now the "World's Richest Terror Group."

Is there any way to completely black out news stories about ISIS? Since they thrive on being in the news, it may put the first nail in their coffin if the world could agree to this achievable goal.

Would this be feasable, or would freedom of the press interfere?

Originally Posted by OhOh

and we, of course, reiterate our warning to the Assad regime not to interfere with U.S. aerial assets over Syria.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Hypocrites

Quite incredible, really . . . They are invading another nation's airspace and have the gall to complain if their drone gets shot down

F me dead . . . incredible

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

It was stated today by NBC News that ISIS is now the "World's Richest Terror Group."

I heard that as well and have yet t figure out how exactly they get their figures

Originally Posted by OckerRocker

Originally Posted by OhOh

and we, of course, reiterate our warning to the Assad regime not to interfere with U.S. aerial assets over Syria.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Hypocrites

Quite incredible, really . . . They are invading another nation's airspace and have the gall to complain if their drone gets shot down

F me dead . . . incredible

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

It was stated today by NBC News that ISIS is now the "World's Richest Terror Group."

I heard that as well and have yet t figure out how exactly they get their figures

Cash assets of banks they have captured, known USD assets in military bases they have captured, estimate of oil assets in areas under their control?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Hypocrites.

Common sop.....

Awaiting for the major blowback to happen.

Hundreds of millions stolen from the Iraqi Central Bank plus oil sales plus donations from rich Arabs plus opium sales all add up to a pretty good chunk of change. Even though the numbers are estimates, it is admitted that ISIS has a fair amount of money.

It is also costing them a pretty penny to finance the war, but their monetary position is strong. It still amazes me that ISIS can sell off the stolen oil, but there are plenty of buyers on the black market.

ISIS was estimated to make $1.5 million < $3.6 million a day from oil @ $40 a barrel Nov 2014.

Erratic supply, semi functioning infrastructure slows sales and cause prices to fluctuate erratically.

It's a buyer's market, if transport's no problem.

ISIS sells cheap oil to its enemies, Turkey, the Kurds and Assad's Syria.

So what gives?

Another source of IS revenue is extortion.....I forgot about that.

I do not think they are interested in embargos, but rather the cash that the oil brings.

Maybe they think they will take it all back at some point.

IS estimated to make < $1 billion /year from opium/heroin trade.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

I do not think they are interested in embargos, but rather the cash that the oil brings.

Maybe they think they will take it all back at some point.

I think that IS long term strategy is to control the oil fields which are largely in northern Iraq and in Kurdistan.

So the main struggle for oil will be with the Kurds, there.

Oh, Jordan and Iran are also buying up the IS oil.

Iran and Russia take a load of Afghan heroin, so does USA, black tar heroin there, West Coast, all of that is financing IS.

All the fields guarded by US military.

Where the rest of the opium crop goes is into dodgy processing and released on the black market to pharmaceutical chemists.

It could be interesting to forensically audit some of those European/ME drug houses. India and China have their own supplies of O.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

plus opium sales all add up to a pretty good chunk of change.

Where's the proof of income from drug sales?

Ya mean like a receipt?

Just contain IS. they will fracture into splinter groups and turn on them selves eventually.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

plus opium sales all add up to a pretty good chunk of change.

Where's the proof of income from drug sales?

Ya mean like a receipt?

T'was funny. Type of question an idiot would ask.

Anyway, ISIS eradication...has to be big fuk off bombs dropped on their bonces imho

or maybe drop a big bag of Smarties soaked in LSD.
and then go in there blasting Pink Floyd albums or Led Zepp.