Thread: What Will It Take To Get Rid Of ISIS?

I can't help but think they might try a big attack to counter the bad press.

End of ISIS 'caliphate' as bastions in Syria and Iraq fall | Daily Mail Online

Fools and politicians don't realise the Islamic State cannot be defeated. It's not an army, it's an idea. But not many politicians here, I suppose.

So go ahead, take to the streets and celebrate the recovery of a city or territory in Syria, and ignore the lies of your glorious leaders about the death of the Caliphate, as you did when they told you about the death of AQ and the Taliban.

No matter how much land is 'recovered' for the west to mismanage into the hands of the next batch of friendlies, or how many IS fighters are captured and killed, because the idea of IS has already been spirited into your home towns and as we know that can only be defeated by properly certified keyboard warriors.

Originally Posted by jabir

Fools and politicians don't realise the Islamic State cannot be defeated. It's not an army, it's an idea.

It's both, dimwit. And while the idea may not be defeatable the killing of the thousands of murderers who make up its armies will make it a lot harder for that idea to bomb, kill, rape, enslave, drown, decapitate, and set fire to innocent people.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

It's both, dimwit. And while the idea may not be defeatable the killing of the thousands of murderers who make up its armies will make it a lot harder for that idea to bomb, kill, rape, enslave, drown, decapitate, and set fire to innocent people.

Had to read that twice.

1 - Did you say 'harder'?
2 - Did you mean it?
3 - Do you have a clue what's brewing in the west?
4 - Half a clue?

Of course you do, use of 'dimwit' proves your point, not quite in Ant or Barracuda league but brownies for effort.

And it's not a new idea. There was a caliphate for over thousand years, the last one ending in 1924. ISIL just tried to put the idea in practice again. After seeing how this one ends, I don't think we'll see another serious attempt at it again.

Originally Posted by jabir

Had to read that twice.

1 - Did you say 'harder'?
2 - Did you mean it?
3 - Do you have a clue what's brewing in the west?
4 - Half a clue?

Of course you do, use of 'dimwit' proves your point, not quite in Ant or Barracuda league but brownies for effort.

I'm guessing beheadings, burnings, and people being thrown off buildings will probably take a hit, not to mention brainwashing kids into doing it.

So if you're trying to suggest it wasn't worth doing, you're an idiot.

With regards to the fake muslims taking over the world.

Any revolution requires troops, weapons, logistics, safe houses etc. Once the western supporters realise they cannot win they will withdraw. There will be disgruntled people but the weapons will be blunted.

A sea change is occuring, no longer will the world accept constant war for the benefit of the 0.01%. Rejoice that some have put their heads on the line and demonstrated a better way for all is available.

Originally Posted by OhOh

With the loss of it's control of territories it's ability

Oh you're so fucked. Looper will be along any minute with his Apostrophe Abuse warrant.

It appears that the Syrian coalition has liberated the city which has been under siege for a few years now. The next target is a city to the south which will wrap up the population centres liberated by the Syrian coalition so far. Coming in from the south, Iraqi territory.

A few pockets left to normalise, the border with Israel and a quick romp north to secure the "liberated" SDF lands.

Well done the saviours of the middle east.

Originally Posted by OhOh

It appears that the Syrian coalition has liberated the city which has been under siege for a few years now. The next target is a city to the south which will wrap up the population centres liberated by the Syrian coalition so far. Coming in from the south, Iraqi territory.

A few pockets left to normalise, the border with Israel and a quick romp north to secure the "liberated" SDF lands.

Well done the saviours of the middle east.

Yes, and it only cost 400,000+ lives.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, and it only cost 400,000+ lives.

Apparently the crusader coalition has only killed 6 civilians in a year, 3 for ameristan and 3 for assorted vassals. Remarkable.

That leaves 399,994 by the throat slitters and their wives and children.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Yes, and it only cost 400,000+ lives.

Figures of April 2016? And who is to be blamed? (Oh sorry, I forgot: the ones who opose the rebels fighting for democracy)...

Originally Posted by DrB0b

I expect you have to read everything at least twice.

haharrr

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I'm guessing beheadings, burnings, and people being thrown off buildings will probably take a hit, not to mention brainwashing kids into doing it.

So if you're trying to suggest it wasn't worth doing, you're an idiot.

"Worth doing" suggests you believe it was done, so clearly it's me that's the idiot, ya?

Much like AQ being 'decimated', 'on the floor' and 'eating dirt', while they were expanding into 26 countries.

Keep your fingers, eyes and legs crossed, that's my boy.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Figures of April 2016? And who is to be blamed? (Oh sorry, I forgot: the ones who opose the rebels fighting for democracy)...

The dictator who decided to launch a military assault on the majority of the population that did not want him in power, and who thanks to Vlad remains in charge.

And yes, 2016 figures are the latest available, that's why I said 400,000+ you fucking dimwit.

Try and keep up.

U.S. Bombs ISIS in Somalia for the First Time

WASHINGTON — The United States military bombed Islamic State fighters in Somalia for the first time on Friday, a sign that the air campaign against the group was expanding after recent battlefield successes against the militants in Iraq and Syria.


Several militants were killed in a pair of strikes hours apart in the country’s northeast, according to a statement from United States Africa Command.
“U.S. forces will continue to use all authorized and appropriate measures to protect Americans and to disable terrorist threats,” the statement said, adding that the strikes were carried out in coordination with the Somali government.


The announcement of the new strikes came hours after President Trump said on Twitter that his administration had attacked the Islamic State “much harder” over the past two days. It was not immediately clear what he was referring to — the larger air campaign against the extremists in Iraq and Syria remained steady, according to the military — but the announcement of the bombings in Somalia helped clarify his statement.


The Islamic State has suffered numerous defeats in the past several months, including the loss of their stronghold in the Iraqi city of Mosul and in their de facto capital, Raqqa, Syria.

more. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/w...pgtype=article

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The dictator who decided to launch a military assault on the majority of the population that did not want him in power, and who thanks to Vlad remains in charge.

And yes, 2016 figures are the latest available, that's why I said 400,000+ you fucking dimwit.

Try and keep up.

Not every "rogue state" country has been so lucky to be liberated from their "dictators" like Afgh., Iraq, Libya, not to mention some other more suffering nations as e.g. Vietnam...

(with some more patience it can happen that any country will be so lucky once...)

Originally Posted by misskit

U.S. Bombs ISIS in Somalia for the First Time


WASHINGTON — The United States military bombed Islamic State fighters in Somalia for the first time on Friday, a sign that the air campaign against the group was expanding after recent battlefield successes against the militants in Iraq and Syria.


Several militants were killed in a pair of strikes hours apart in the country’s northeast, according to a statement from United States Africa Command.
“U.S. forces will continue to use all authorized and appropriate measures to protect Americans and to disable terrorist threats,” the statement said, adding that the strikes were carried out in coordination with the Somali government.


The announcement of the new strikes came hours after President Trump said on Twitter that his administration had attacked the Islamic State “much harder” over the past two days. It was not immediately clear what he was referring to — the larger air campaign against the extremists in Iraq and Syria remained steady, according to the military — but the announcement of the bombings in Somalia helped clarify his statement.


The Islamic State has suffered numerous defeats in the past several months, including the loss of their stronghold in the Iraqi city of Mosul and in their de facto capital, Raqqa, Syria.

more. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/w...pgtype=article

Hmm, Somalia, can't be the IS, they've been cudgelled, right? Perhaps the merkins are trying to win it from the air, won't be putting boots on ground with fond memories of the last time they brashed out in places they're not wanted.

But if they say the IS are on the run, it must be true.

And btw, just a reminder, those they are bombing are canon fodder that generates ten new fighters for each one killed or even injured. Care to do the math, anyone?

Originally Posted by jabir

those they are bombing are canon fodder that generates ten new fighters for each one killed or even injured.

...newer munitions can take care of those as well...

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Sure. Low end for number of IS fighters killed to date is 25,000. Injured, about 75,000. According to you that means IS should now have 1,000,000 fighters. Where are they? Hiding under your bed?

Wow, I do love your numbers. 25k killed, 75k injured = 100k. And they still have at least a handful of fighters under siege in each of dozens of towns and cities by...whom...? By Syrian gov forces, which leader the west sacrificed tens of thousands of wog lives to topple and are now supporting? Are you serious? Or is it the 'friendly rebels' that fought and are still fighting both the west AND the Syrians which are now on the same side with the west and Russia, and omg Iran? Or by Iranian sponsored troops since your 'experts' and leaders are desperate for 'friends' in return for - what, if not territory and resources and influence that will ultimately cost western lives? No need to go on, others will get the drift if your shutters are firmly shut.

But you sound sincere, even if you privately know your flexi-numbers are prone to change according to convenience over reality, so I suggest you start preparing a bunch of new ones for later on.

2 years ago total front-line IS fighters (under Obama) was estimated at around 35k, then 50k, then when the people were dumbed down enough the number crept more realistically into 6 figures, and then more. And even at that low end, 35-50k, the IS was holding territory the size of GB. Pause to consider how ridiculous this is. Either the 'experts' got it so wrong that even the dopiest of the doped should have started sniffing, or IS was undergoing phenomenal growth; you choose which, since the only thing we do know is that the actual numbers touted are unknowable but insanely wrong.

How's that? - because our 'experts' (you do know what 'expert' means?) have been wrong on everything to date, including their friends and enemies, the formation and structure of the IS and its impressive expansion across a world with no religious/ideological borders. Check it out for yourself: ask an 'expert' to guess how many of the 'friendlies' have turn their weapons against the west, or exported them into Europe for the army that will eventually move against suitably doped up and snoozing civilians that would rather poke out their eyes than risk using them to see the wreck that's only beginning to unfold in Europe and to a lesser extent the USA.

According to you that means IS should now have 1,000,000 fighters. Where are they? Hiding under your bed?

Perhaps you should try answering that daft question, then kick yourself to sleep.

Originally Posted by tomcat

...newer munitions can take care of those as well...

Go on then, tell us which newer munitions you or other wannabe warriors will use to neutralise an unknown number of active and inactive IS sympathisers many of whom remain unidentified and living in western cities, and most of whom if you do manage to miraculously identify, have committed no crime?

Originally Posted by jabir

tell us which newer munitions you or other wannabe warriors will use to neutralise an unknown number of active and inactive IS sympathisers many of whom remain unidentified and living in western cities

...neuralizers...

Originally Posted by jabir

most of whom if you do manage to miraculously identify, have committed no crime?

...a corps of trained precogs as part of precrime police units will separate good from evil...voila!...