The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[harrybarracuda]

Thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers.

[uncle junior]

Too soon to talk about it.

[harrybarracuda]

No doubt that wanker Lapierre (and gullible fuckers like Earl) will be crowing about how the "good guy with the gun stopped the bad guy with the gun" instead of focusing on the more important fact that yet another fucking teenager got hold of a gun and shot more pupils.

A gunman who opened fire inside a US school and shot two fellow students has died after exchanging gunfire with a campus security officer, the County Sheriff confirmed.

The school day had barely begun today at Great Mills High School in Lexington Park, Maryland, when two teenage students were shot and critically wounded in a corridor.

The student shooter, who has not yet been identified, was also wounded when he was shot following a gunfire exchange with a school security officer.

It was not immediately clear whether the officer's bullet killed the gunman.

The officer was shot at but not harmed, police confirmed.

Sheriff Cameron told a news conference: "Our school resource officer who was stationed inside the school was alerted to the event and the shots being fired.

"He pursued the shooter, engaged the shooter; during that engagement he fired a round at the shooter. Simultaneously, the shooter fired a round as well."

Students reported 'everyone screaming and running' as they begged people to pray for them and, unable to grasp what had happened, asked "why us?"

The two students who were shot, a male and a female, were taken to hospital in a critical condition.

The shooter, who was also in a critical condition and was taken to get medical attention, has died, the county sheriff said.

Great Mills High School was put on lockdown following the shooting, and Maryland State Police responded quickly to the incident.

They asked parents to stay away from the school but said the incident was contained.

Parents were instead told to report to Leonardtown High School where students were to be taken following an evacuation.

About 1,600 pupils were escorted off the campus by police, classroom by classroom.

According to the Washington Post, Cpl. Julie Yingling, a spokeswoman for the St Mary's County Sheriff's Office, said at 8.15am that officials were called to " a shooting at Great Mills High School".

She described the situation as "fluid".

A young woman named Mollie Davis, who identified herself as a student at Great Mills High School, posted on Twitter: "Please pray for us.

"There was a loud sound and everyone started screaming and running."

She added: "You never think it'll be your school and then it is.

"Great Mills is a wonderful school and somewhere I am proud to go. Why us?"

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...yland-12219364

[Mr Earl]

This news is going to get swept under the rug lickety split!

Good Guy with Gun Opened Fire on MD High School Shooter, Ended Threat

[harrybarracuda]

This news is going to get swept under the rug lickety split!

Good Guy with Gun Opened Fire on MD High School Shooter, Ended Threat

Told ya.

[misskit]

^It’s pitiful. Stop laughing.

[AntRobertson]

Sometimes I really do think that posters like Earl are plants.

Some form of spambot designed to make right-wingers look bad.

[harrybarracuda]

[Mr Earl]

What you libtard nincompoops fail to understand and address, regarding these school shootings is how the one size fits all lowered standards education system is the root problem.
Liberal/socialist cultural mandates have brought us to this sad place of troubled students ignored by the education system lash out in terrible violent tantrums.

Ask yourself if these school shootings took place before 1913 when Woodrow Wilson began his socialist social doctrines? Before government co-opted the education system. (back then every 12 year old had his little 22 rifle to shoot targets and squirrels, back then you could mail order the firearm from Sear Robuck, and there were no school shootings!)
You gotta ask yourself; what's changed?
It has only gotten worse as government exercises more and more oversight into education.
Only seeing firearms as the issue and the problem is horribly naive and myopic.
Sadly current liberal education doesn't teach you to ask these questions.
In the mean time until the education system is overhauled pistol packing teachers might well be the near term answer.

[tomcat]

the one size fits all lowered standards education system is the root problem

...mischaracterizing education in general and "the root problem" in particular...

troubled students ignored by the education system lash out in terrible violent tantrums.

...misleading generalization...

if these school shootings took place before 1913 when Woodrow Wilson began his socialist social doctrines?

...irrelevant nonsense...

back then every 12 year old had his little 22 rifle to shoot targets and squirrels

...grossly inaccurate: back then, most 12 year olds didn't have ready cash to buy anything, let alone a firearm...

Only seeing firearms as the issue and the problem is horribly naive and myopic.

...odd statement as it's the availability of firearms that sets the stage for "the problem"...

current liberal education doesn't teach you to ask these questions.

...unfounded and acutely uninformed...

until the education system is overhauled pistol packing teachers might well be the near term answer

...assign blame to the appropriate agents: firearms manufacturers, the NRA and a demented social background mentality fostered by Fox Media and the like in a depraved search for profits...

...your posts are excellent for a beginner's target practice...but not much of a challenge for those outside your ever-shrinking thought bubble...

[Mr Earl]

^ Apparently you're also a product of lowest common denominator education, as you display the characteristic inability to ask the tough questions on the issue.

Parroting leftist talking points about gun control and the NRA barely constitutes argument and completely fails to acknowledge the breakdown in government sponsored/mandated education.

The tough questions must asked if one is sincere about the issue and not just following the gun-grabber's agenda.

[tomcat]

...^so, nothing to add then...

[misskit]

[harrybarracuda]

^ Apparently you're also a product of lowest common denominator education, as you display the characteristic inability to ask the tough questions on the issue.

Parroting leftist talking points about gun control and the NRA barely constitutes argument and completely fails to acknowledge the breakdown in government sponsored/mandated education.

The tough questions must asked if one is sincere about the issue and not just following the gun-grabber's agenda.

It's not even a tough question:

When every other developed country has minimised gun deaths by imposing sensible gun control, why do Americans let the Gun industry and a few retarded rednecks stop them doing so and thus perpetuate tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths in America every single year?

[Mr Earl]

It's not even a tough question:

When every other developed country has minimised gun deaths by imposing sensible gun control, why do Americans let the Gun industry and a few retarded rednecks stop them doing so and thus perpetuate tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths in America every single year?

While the school shootings are deeply tragic, they often could've been prevented because the shooters were crying out for help beforehand. (the recent Lakeland shooting is a perfect example)

What gun-grabbers like you Harry completely ignore is the gun death numbers you parade about are mostly either suicides or drug related gang violence in the inner cities.
End the drug war those murders will all but disappear. The war of drugs is government violence against families and in particular minority families.

Suicides are another issue which also has many roots in the hopelessness spawned by government economic violence against the family.

[AntRobertson]

...


It's like pg.1 of the 'NRA's Big Book of Distractions & Diversions For Beginners 101 (sub. title: Let's Focus on Anything & Everything Other than Guns)'

[tomcat]

...^^unsupported generalizations accompanied by the usual Libertarian nonsense...relentlessly repetitive and unpersuasive...

[S Landreth]

I’ll be in DC for a couple other reasons but will be attending the march with a few other people. I’ll try to post some pictures of the event.

I was with some people last night for dinner and one said they think this march/rally could be larger (crowd size) than trump’s inauguration: https://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/th...on-crowd-size/ - https://marchforourlives.dc.gov/

[Crestofawave]

While the school shootings are deeply tragic, they often could've been prevented because the shooters were crying out for help beforehand. (the recent Lakeland shooting is a perfect example)

What gun-grabbers like you Harry completely ignore is the gun death numbers you parade about are mostly either suicides or drug related gang violence in the inner cities.
End the drug war those murders will all but disappear. The war of drugs is government violence against families and in particular minority families.

Suicides are another issue which also has many roots in the hopelessness spawned by government economic violence against the family.

Earl, there are potential 'shooters' in every nation: disaffected kids, kids from broken homes, unemployment, under achievers etc but because they can't get hold of any guns so there ain't no massacre. It's that simple man.

[misskit]

Well, here is some good news for a change!


Sessions effectively bans bump stocks

The Department of Justice will change regulations to categorize bump stocks as "machine guns" under federal law — effectively banning them. This announcement comes the day ahead of the nationwide March for Our Lives rally.


Trump tweeted ahead of the DOJ's release: "Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS with a mandated comment period. We will BAN all devices that turn legal weapons into illegal machine guns."

https://www.axios.com/uber-was-under...cc50cf59d.html




Politifact's finding on Trump's statement. Mostly True.


The NRA said, "The Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions."


We indeed found two occasions in which ATF, a bureau within the executive branch, decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.


These decisions allowed two companies to sell bump stocks. It’s important to note this was not a statement of Obama’s preferred policy, which called for more regulation of guns, but was what the agency determined it had to do under the language of current law.



Did Obama administration approve bump stocks? | PolitiFact

[tomcat]

Mostly True

...mostly obfuscation, imo: the ATF was, and is, bound by the language of the current law which allowed bump stocks...

[Mr Earl]

I reckon it never occurred to the liberal progressive gun-grabber that the unarmed and unprotected (as the Lakeland FL school was, on numerous levels, from law enforcement to the school administration and even the FBI who were in the loop knowing about this shooter) make attractive and very easy targets.

[uncle junior]

Buckets of rocks are Pennsylvania schools' last defense against shooters


HARRISBURG, Pa. (Reuters) - A rural Pennsylvania school district has equipped all 200 of its classrooms with buckets of rocks that students and teachers could use as a “last line of defense” in the event of a school shooting, the district’s superintendent said on Friday

The buckets are just one of the measures that Blue Mountain School District in Orwigsburg, Pennsylvania, has put in place this academic year, along with security cameras, secured building entrances and fortified classroom doors, Superintendent David Helsel said in a telephone interview.

“We didn’t want our students to be helpless victims,” Helsel said. “River stones were my idea. I thought they would be more effective than throwing books or book bags or staplers.”

[Mr Earl]

Buckets of rocks are Pennsylvania schools' last defense against shooters


HARRISBURG, Pa. (Reuters) - A rural Pennsylvania school district has equipped all 200 of its classrooms with buckets of rocks that students and teachers could use as a “last line of defense” in the event of a school shooting, the district’s superintendent said on Friday

The buckets are just one of the measures that Blue Mountain School District in Orwigsburg, Pennsylvania, has put in place this academic year, along with security cameras, secured building entrances and fortified classroom doors, Superintendent David Helsel said in a telephone interview.

“We didn’t want our students to be helpless victims,” Helsel said. “River stones were my idea. I thought they would be more effective than throwing books or book bags or staplers.”

While better than nothing, rocks offer precious little protection from a determined psychopath with any firearm.

Just another excellent example how the dumbed down school system is totally ill-equipped for some realities. Like the fact that these shooters are indeed products of deeply flawed system, their own system.

[harrybarracuda]

Meanwhile the good guy with the gun couldn't save....

Maryland school shooting: 16-year-old victim dies, says sheriff's office

• Jaelynn Willey, 16, was taken off life support early Thursday
• The teen was in a relationship with the shooter, Austin Rollins, that recently ended

They're going to have to start preemptively shooting anyone who turns up outside normal school hours.