The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[wasabi]

Gunman kills at least 1 inside N.Y. hospital, then kills self

Gunman kills at least 1 inside N.Y. hospital, then kills self

This was on the BBC radio 4 news today

[Troy]

Meanwhile there are a few less Amercans after a shooting at a nightclub in Arkansas.

Who in their right mind takes a gun to a nightclub?

Are you pleased to see me or is that a Magnum 357 in your pocket....

[SKkin]

^ I think I see the problem...

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...ooting-w490670

The gunfire erupted around 2:30 a.m. at the Power Ultra Lounge during a Finese2Tymes performance. Police believe the shooting was the result of a dispute between two groups inside the venue, KTHV reports, although no other details were provided.

all 17 who were shot still alive...

[Slick]

Funny Fagg Hoe ffs. Lyrics talking about Murder.

This is the result of the First and Second amendments clashing pretty hard

Cant wait to get our resident kiwi social justice warrior to come tell us all about his black experience and speak on behalf of American blackness.

[AntRobertson]

Cant wait to get our resident kiwi social justice warrior to come tell us all about his black experience and speak on behalf of American blackness.

Who told you that posting non sequiturs was a valid and successful substitute for being able to make a coherent and cognizant point?

They steered you wrong little fella.

[Slick]

Florida man sits on gun, shoots self in penis, police say

38-year-old says gun was in driver's seat of car when he sat on it

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Jacksonville man accidentally shot himself in the penis early Friday morning when he sat on a gun in the driver's seat of his car, police said.

Cedrick Jelks, 38, was taken to Memorial Hospital by 25-year-old Shanekia Roberts, who told police that Jelks was sitting in his Nissan Altima by himself and came into their home on Freedom Crossing Trail in a panic and ran straight to the bathroom.

She said she followed him and saw that he had a gunshot wound to his penis, so she took him to the hospital, where he underwent surgery.

She said Jelks told her he sat on the gun, which accidentally went off.

Investigators found that Jelks was convicted of cocaine possession in 2004.

It's possible he will be facing charges for possessing a firearm, because he is a convicted felon.

Florida man sits on gun, shoots self in penis, police say

[Slick]

^ I think I see the problem...

At Least 28 People Injured in Little Rock Nightclub Shooting - Rolling Stone

The gunfire erupted around 2:30 a.m. at the Power Ultra Lounge during a Finese2Tymes performance. Police believe the shooting was the result of a dispute between two groups inside the venue, KTHV reports, although no other details were provided.

all 17 who were shot still alive...

Suspect in Arkansas nightclub shooting - rapper Finese 2Tymes - arrested in Birmingham



Ricky Hampton, a Memphis-based rapper known as Finese 2Tymes, was arrested at a Birmingham nightclub on July 2, 2017 in connection with a shooting at an Arkansas nightclub that wounded 28.

A 25-year-old Memphis-based rapper taken into custody at an Alabama nightclub early Sunday is a suspect in the gunfire at an Arkansas club that left 28 people injured.

Ricky Hampton, better known as Finese 2Tymes, and another suspect were arrested by the U.S. Marshals Gulf Coast Regional Fugitive Task Force, ATF and FBI at 1:15 a.m. at Side Effects at 400 Second Avenue North in Birmingham, said Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Cliff LaBarge. Hampton was headlining a show at the club from 10 p.m. until 2 a.m., and was nabbed as he walking back into the club.

Suspect in Arkansas nightclub shooting - rapper Finese 2Tymes - arrested in Birmingham | AL.com

[AntRobertson]

Man suspected of killing teen because he 'didn't want her to merge into traffic' captured - NZ Herald

In a nutshell: dude didn't want other driver to merge into same lane as him; 18 year old girl shot and killed; because gunz.

[Slick]

Man suspected of killing teen because he 'didn't want her to merge into traffic' captured - NZ Herald

In a nutshell: dude didn't want other driver to merge into same lane as him; 18 year old girl shot and killed; because gunz.

Because road rage asshole crazy person.

This kind of thing isn't restricted to the US either. Shocking amount happens here, in Thailand, where you choose to live.

[AntRobertson]

This kind of thing isn't restricted to the US either

Indeed. In fact just prior to reading that article I read another one about a road rage incident in South London. Two dudes having a punch up.

Nobody shot and killed though. Because no gunz.

in Thailand, where you choose to live

Your point of comparison is a third-world Asian country??

Because road rage asshole crazy person.

Who had a gun.

He didn't point his fingers at her and go *ka-pow! ka-pow!* shooty-noises did he.

[Slick]

This kind of thing isn't restricted to the US either

Indeed. In fact just prior to reading that article I read another one about a road rage incident in South London. Two dudes having a punch up.

Nobody shot and killed though. Because no gunz.

True. No guns = less shootings. Man on moon.

300,000,000 guns in the US and great grandaddy laws cementing it in place.

[Slick]

This kind of thing isn't restricted to the US either

Indeed. In fact just prior to reading that article I read another one about a road rage incident in South London. Two dudes having a punch up.

Nobody shot and killed though. Because no gunz.

in Thailand, where you choose to live

Your point of comparison is a third-world Asian country??

Because road rage asshole crazy person.

Who had a gun.

He didn't point his fingers at her and go *ka-pow! ka-pow!* shooty-noises did he.

My point is you have all these feelz about Murica' & their guns, but choose to live in a country with arguably the same per capita gun death rate as Murica' and arguably just as much or more road rage incidents, with like 20% percent of the population and like 10% of the available firearms.

So your personal feelz are merely superficial feelz because in the end it doesn't actually bother you.

And yeah, a 3rd world asian country with less firearms and less of a population than the US. Surprising the US doesn't have more firearm related deaths.

[AntRobertson]

300,000,000 guns in the US and great grandaddy laws cementing it in place.

Both of those things are crazy.

My point is you have all these feelz about Murica' & their guns, but choose to live in a country with arguably the same per capita gun death rate as Murica' and arguably just as much or more road rage incidents, with like 20% percent of the population and like 10% of the available firearms.

So your point is Murica = slightly better than 3rd world country.

Not much of a point is it, when you think about it.

So your personal feelz are merely superficial feelz because in the end it doesn't actually bother you.

Fake News.

[Slick]

300,000,000 guns in the US and great grandaddy laws cementing it in place.

Both of those things are crazy.

To a sheltered Kiwi. Or a sheltered Brit.

"A gun" is completely normal for most Americans, but the violence you see on the news isn't, unless you live in Englewood.

[Slick]

My point is you have all these feelz about Murica' & their guns, but choose to live in a country with arguably the same per capita gun death rate as Murica' and arguably just as much or more road rage incidents, with like 20% percent of the population and like 10% of the available firearms.

So your point is Murica = slightly better than 3rd world country.

Not much of a point is it, when you think about it.

So your personal feelz are merely superficial feelz because in the end it doesn't actually bother you.

Fake News.

IF thats the conclusion you want to extrapolate from the statement, then so be it. Its your head in the sand, not mine.

And its not Fake News. You got a boner over Murican gun deaths but a limpie over Thais. You choose to live in a country thats arguably more dangerous on just about every level, whilst bean counting Murica'

[AntRobertson]

To a sheltered Kiwi. Or a sheltered Brit

No, to anyone who thinks that a gun-per person ownership rate deriving from a selective interpretation of an enshrined, 'unchangeable' and inalienable 'right', written on a bit of paper that has been amended 27 times to date in a nation where mass-shootings are a preternatural occurrence is a bit, you know, mental - i.e. pretty much the rest of the developed world.

Maybe it's you that's a bit sheltered, thinking that's normal.

[AntRobertson]

Its your head in the sand, not mine.

How many mass shootings have there been in Thailand this year, Slick? And the US?

[Slick]

True, the US has a tragic amount of "mass shootings".

Although, not sure what you want to call a 'mass shooting' - that gang related club shooting left 28 people injured. Certainly isn't a deliberate 'school shooting'. More like darwin award shooting. The US has more 'mass shootings' than Thailand of course, but that doesn't change the fact that this country has the same or more per capita in a smaller & less populated area. Where you choose to raise your kids. And do your Murica' grading from.

And the constitution & amendments are judged by the SC - its not a 'selective' interpretation. For the remainder of our lifetime it'll likely be an originalist interpretation. Thanks Trump. MAGA.

Still don't know why your pee pee is all throbbing over Murica' while you live in Thailand FFS.

[AntRobertson]

The US has more 'mass shootings' than Thailand of course, but that doesn't change the fact that this country has the same or more per capita in a smaller & less populated area. Where you choose to raise your kids. And do your Murica' grading from.

Nor does it change the fact that Thailand's a third-world country and yet there is statistically less chance of kids being shot in a school shooting here.

Dunno why you keep trying that crutch and trying to make it about me. It's not only fallacious but actually self-defeating.

And the constitution & amendments are judged by the SC - its not a 'selective' interpretation. For the remainder of our lifetime it'll likely be an originalist interpretation

The Point - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > You. All the way over here.

And, it, is, selective, Slick. Very, much, so, unless, you, were, there, at, the, time, it, was, drafted.

[Slick]

Riiiiiiiiiiight because we all have no clue about the fucking context, like, at all - we all just appeared one day with a piece of paper to go by

You are basically saying that we're all dumb and don't know the history, wording, & context of it all. Mercy....

And your chances of being shot in a school shooting are barely even measurable.

[AntRobertson]

You are basically saying that we're all dumb and don't know the history, wording, & context of it all. Mercy....

Nope, that's not what I'm saying at all. Maybe that's a chip on your shoulder whispering sweet nothings to you.

Begs the question though - if you can't actually even comprehend what I'm saying in the here and now, what makes you think an 'originalist interpretation' of something from all those years ago is correct.

Like it or not the second amendment and interpretation of it is a contentious issue and in come cases comes down to the placement of a comma. It's just as valid to say that something drafted in immediate post-colonial America with citizen militias in mind and a distrust of a standing army (i.e. British) was never envisaged by its drafters to include open slather access to guns for all and even if it were it's not relevant to modern times (or guns).

And your chances of being shot in a school shooting are barely even measurable.

More than here in Thailand though.

The comparison you keep bringing up.

[AntRobertson]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Is a well regulated Militia still necessary to the security of a free State? Who regulates it? What are those regulations? Does that mean you need to be in a Militia to own a gun? What, exactly, is a Militia anyway... etc. etc.

[Slick]

Because an 'originalist interpretation' is all about wording, context, history, and placement of the amendments in the list.

Like it or not, as much as you want to 'disprove' me somehow, you cant. DC Vs Heller 5/4 has already decided.

Its just not about what you want it to be about. Its contentious no doubt, and I guess any argument can be valid.

Kinda like, if I say something like "Ant is a squirmy, wordy motherfucker and a hypocrite" and you argue that its against forum rules or stalking.

Then I come back & get long winded about how, due to times changing & slang, thats not actually against forum rules today because this is normal speech today, when you're a squirmy, wordy motherfucker and a hypocrite.

Its all agenda seeking word smithing, and the originalist interpretation is the one that wins out.

Laterz.

[AntRobertson]

Like it or not, as much as you want to 'disprove' me somehow, you cant. DC Vs Heller 5/4 has already decided.

Slick trust me on this... I'd never mistake you for the SCOTUS.

Congrats on missing my point only to come back and make it for me though. That takes... well, it's kinda special.

Kinda like, if I say something like "Ant is a squirmy, wordy motherfucker and a hypocrite" and you argue that its against forum rules or stalking.

Then I come back & get long winded about how, due to times changing & slang, thats not actually against forum rules today because this is normal speech today, when you're a squirmy, wordy motherfucker and a hypocrite.

Its all agenda seeking word smithing, and the originalist interpretation is the one that wins out.

Laterz.

Egads, you really ought to get those chips on your shoulders seen to.

You're way too small to be carrying so much weight around!

[harrybarracuda]

Riiiiiiiiiiight because we all have no clue about the fucking context, like, at all - we all just appeared one day with a piece of paper to go by

You are basically saying that we're all dumb and don't know the history, wording, & context of it all. Mercy....

And your chances of being shot in a school shooting are barely even measurable.

"History, wording and context" are irrelevant.

That's why your system has the mechanism of Amendments.