The 'Americans Getting Shot' Thread

[panama hat]

Two officers shot outside Ferguson police headquarters after chief quits

Two officers shot outside Ferguson police headquarters after chief quits | Reuters

""These police officers were standing there and they were shot, just because they were police officers," Belmar said."

'Well, shiiiiet . . . it's like they wuz juss like neegroes, gittin' shot fer nuthing' - claimed Sgt Cletus Hatfield

Two officers shot outside Ferguson police headquarters after chief quits .......

"..... just hours after the city's police chief quit following a damning U.S. Justice Department report into his force."

[Boon Mee]

'Well, shiiiiet . . . it's like they wuz juss like neegroes, gittin' shot fer nuthing' - claimed Sgt Cletus Hatfield

[FailSafe]

I'd go for the Glock, they must be good, every second wannabe walking around Thailand has a Glock Tshirt. Not that I am American but just my satangs worth.

Glocks are an inherently unsafe weapon.

Why? BTW, I totally disagree.

Don't have stats but I wold bet they are responsible for most accidental discharges.
They don't call it "Glock Leg" for nothing.

The handler is responsible for any accidental discharges, not the gun- if wielded properly, a Glock is extremely safe as far as avoiding an AD- in the possession of an idiot who doesn't understand gun safety, any pistol is unsafe for the person holding it.

[Necron99]

I'd go for the Glock, they must be good, every second wannabe walking around Thailand has a Glock Tshirt. Not that I am American but just my satangs worth.

Glocks are an inherently unsafe weapon.

Why? BTW, I totally disagree.

Don't have stats but I wold bet they are responsible for most accidental discharges.
They don't call it "Glock Leg" for nothing.

The handler is responsible for any accidental discharges, not the gun- if wielded properly, a Glock is extremely safe as far as avoiding an AD- in the possession of an idiot who doesn't understand gun safety, any pistol is unsafe for the person holding it.

That's a bit simplistic and the fact that the term "Glock Leg" is in use proves it.
Drawing a pistol is mostly combined with the intent or preparation to fire.
the natural inclination is to get a finger on the trigger while doing so,
The action of drawing is an upwards motion.
It's silly to say this doesn't lead to accidents.
No industrial machine would be designed that way.
A grip safety on the Glock would make it immeasurably safer to the user.

[panama hat]

Endless room for contributions from our cousins across the pnd(s)

Aurora Colorado Cops Just Shot an Unarmed Man While Handcuffing Him, But They Let a Killer Live
March 11, 2015 8:16 am·
aurora

Police in Aurora, Colorado have now confirmed that they shot an unarmed man in the chest while handcuffing him. The victim’s name is Naeschylus Vinzant. He was on parole since March 2nd, but police say he absconded when he removed his ankle bracelet.

When we asked police about the shooting they began listing all of the bad things that Vinzant, 37, had done in his life, as though listing these things would justify their shooting him in the chest while being handcuffed, and while he was unarmed.

At a press conference Monday, police said that “members of the SWAT team attempted to take the subject into custody, at which time one shot was fired and the subject was struck one time in the chest.”

Police Commander Paul O’Keefe tried to emphasize that “officers didn’t know” that Vinzant was unarmed until after they shot and killed him. So now, apparently, it is a defense to shoot someone if they might theoretically have a weapon concealed on them… even if they don’t.

Remember that Aurora is the same town where mass-murderer James Holmes shot and killed 12 people and injured 70 others at a movie theater. Holmes was Caucasian and armed to the teeth. Critics of this most recent police shooting in Aurora note that Vinzant is African American.

One was armed, the other wasn’t. The armed man was taken alive… the unarmed one wasn’t.

Aurora’s first African-American chief Nicholas Metz says that he is going to meet with community groups to “keep things calm.” But right now the mainstream media is barely touching this story, so it is unlikely that there will be widespread outrage unless concerned citizens begin spreading the word about the injustice.

Aurora Colorado Cops Just Shot an Unarmed Man While Handcuffing Him, But They Let a Killer Live

[fishlocker]

^ Do you have a gun?

Probably better off in a different thread to this... but often thought of upgrading the flintlock to something a bit more modern. I have been offered a glock-19 on several occasions but a Browning is my preference...or a Walther PPQ....what do our men from the US think?

Kimber however the PPQ has great reviews.

[Davis Knowlton]

Kimber

[Black Heart]

^ Do you have a gun?

Total of 7 guns.

One is an SKS with a 30 round banana clip.

Others are pistols:

East German semi-auto.

.38 / .357 mag revolver

Smith and Wesson semi 9MM

And others.

They've been locked up in my dad's safe for many years.

When I return to the US I'll get a .38 snub nose revolver to carry on rare occasion and I'll renew my concealed weapon permit.

[panama hat]

^ May I ask where you live to need a gun with you at all times? Not having ago at you, just asking.

I've lived in Chicago, Phoenix, among other places and never felt the need to carry one

[Neo]

Walmart.?

[OhOh]

^ May I ask where you live to need a gun with you at all times? Not having ago at you, just asking

A gun is useful when you go shopping for table legs. Sometimes they are confused with automatic rifles by the police.

[fishlocker]

He scribed "on rare occasion." For arguments sake I'll give an instance. I was rebuilding a garage for an Asian lady that lived in the hood. I felt no need but a long time friend of mine, who has his permit, carried. I could care less and was thankfull he came down to lend a hand. He has lived in the city all his life (not white folks bay mind you) and probably carries much of the time Because he can legally. Not that it matters, his legs were broken in a motocycle accident 15 years ago, He aint fast any more. And may feel somewhat vulnerable. Enuf said. Now move along with your rose colored glasses.

[panama hat]

Rose-coloured glasses . . .

Ok, Detroit, Chicago, Phoenix, San Jose to name a few places were I've lived/studied/gone to school/worked.

Hardly a matter of rose-coloured glasses . . . never felt the need or even had the thought of carrying a weapon

[bsnub]

never felt the need or even had the thought of carrying a weapon

Me either. The US is actually a real safe place especially when you factor in road death in LOS.

[fishlocker]

Location, location, location. Yes its very safe generally. I have never carried however I know what to avoid and where its less safe and when ect. Don't make yourself a target and you will be fine. My hand bag had her handbag snatched twice that I recall. Not that she looked like she had money but because she is so small. Both times were at night and in parking lots. This was 20 Years ago and in not so great of an area. A pistol wouldnt have helped her either its true. To shoot a punk in the back is illegal.I must say though that car jacking seems a thing of the past as well as taking a bullet for that triple fat goose down jacket and a pair of Nikes. Violent crime has gone down overall but their is the Fringe that seems to have lost their minds and that may be reason enuf for some to want to protect themselves.

[FailSafe]

Glocks are an inherently unsafe weapon.

Why? BTW, I totally disagree.

Don't have stats but I wold bet they are responsible for most accidental discharges.
They don't call it "Glock Leg" for nothing.

The handler is responsible for any accidental discharges, not the gun- if wielded properly, a Glock is extremely safe as far as avoiding an AD- in the possession of an idiot who doesn't understand gun safety, any pistol is unsafe for the person holding it.

That's a bit simplistic and the fact that the term "Glock Leg" is in use proves it.
Drawing a pistol is mostly combined with the intent or preparation to fire.
the natural inclination is to get a finger on the trigger while doing so,
The action of drawing is an upwards motion.
It's silly to say this doesn't lead to accidents.
No industrial machine would be designed that way.
A grip safety on the Glock would make it immeasurably safer to the user.

Actually you just proved my point- someone who puts their finger on the trigger prior to the intent to fire has unsafely handled their weapon. There is no 'natural inclination' to put one's finger on the trigger while drawing a weapon (except for the untrained), but, rather, there is only habit and repetition of a particular movement, and, if practiced, that becomes the 'natural inclination'- there is either proper training or there isn't. Do you ride a motorcycle? It would be similar to covering the front brake- either you do it or you don't, but how you were initially taught becomes the way you do it for life.

If you want to argue that certain pistols are safer in the hands of fools, note that no pistol is safe in the hands of one.

[harrybarracuda]

Another argument settled peacefully...

A man in the US has attacked a family, killing the father and nine-year-old daughter in a horrendous assault that neighbours described as “like a horror movie”.

Jimmy Lyons, 32, is believed to have been renting a room in the Mississippi home of Jermaine, 31, and Victoria Sims, 29, and their three children, whose names have not been released, when he attacked the family late on Thursday evening.

Details surrounding the incident remain scare. Brookhaven police chief Bobby Bell told The Clarion Ledger that Lyons and Mr Sims had got into an altercation in the house but it remained unclear what started the fight.

Officers, who arrived at a neighbour’s house on the night of the incident after receiving a call at approximately 12.20am, found Lyons – uninjured – inside the Sims’ home.

Yesterday they confirmed that Mr Sims and his nine-year-old daughter had died in hospital from gunshot wounds from a .45 calibre weapon.

The couple’s six-year-old son and 14-year-old daughter remain at the University of Mississippi Medical Center, while Mrs Sims is being treated at Southwest Mississippi Medical Center. All are being treated for gunshot wounds.

Neighbour Donna Davis, who lives opposite the family’s wood-clad home in a trailer, was woken just after midnight by pounding on her front door.

Opening it, she saw Mrs Sims and her two surviving children outside covered in blood, having run across a usually busy road to escape from their home. So covered in blood were the trio that Ms Davis initially assumed they had been hit by a car.

“The little boy, he was half under the porch like he was trying to hide from someone. He was screaming for help,” she told an Associated Press reporter.

“It was like out of a horror movie,” she added. “I still see that little girl’s face in my mind.”

Her husband, John, added that the boy appeared to have cuts all over his face as if someone had attacked him with a knife, he claimed.

According to Mrs Davis’s mother-in-law Linda, who lives next door and also came over when the incident occurred, said the daughter kept clinging to her and crying that she wanted her “mama”.

Local police spokesperson Captain Clint Earls said that Lyons, currently held in a county jail, faces two counts of murder and three of aggravated assault.

“The only thing we are waiting on is getting some of the victims in well-enough health to where they can shed some light on what caused the incident to erupt,” Cap Earls added.

Neighbours describe scene as 'like a horror movie' after after gunman attacks family home killing father and 9-year-old daughter - Americas - World - The Independent

[panama hat]

Location, location, location

As it is everywhere . . . and nowhere else, except Somalia, Sudan etc..., do people feel the need to arm themselves when they go to the library or pop out for a Ben & Jerry's

Another argument settled peacefully...

To be fair . . . if he hadn't had a gun he would/could have used a rubber chicken to the same effect . . . Guns don't kill people

[PeeCoffee]

According to CDC the odds of homicide by firearm in America is 3.5 / 100,000 people and death by automobile accident is 11.6 / 100,000 people.

Interestingly suicide by firearm is almost the same as homicides annually.

There are some forked-up areas in America where one should not travel at night or during the day without support...unfortunately shit can happen anywhere even in the posh spots.

Personally I have never carried a concealed weapon...nor really felt the need.
Possibly I was naive or just in tune with where I was and what I was doing.
Possibly I was just lucky...3.5 / 100,000 ---I didn't win the lottery.

[Boon Mee]

Now this is really dumb...

Anti-Gun Radicals Open Fake “Gun Store” In NYC To Shame Would-Be Gun Buyers.



Two gun control organizations set up a faux gun store in Manhattan’s Lower East Side stocked with hidden cameras and guns that were illegal under state and city law for the purpose of gun violence education.

The front, simply named “The Gun Shop” specifically had window advertisements aimed at first time gun buyers. Once inside the space, shoppers were confronted with mannequins dressed in tactical gear, a gun counter and a wall of firearms ranging from military surplus SKS rifles to submachine guns. Those interested in items were told that the gun in question had a unique and interesting history that included violence.

“Collectors love this one,” said the bearded gun store attendant, holding an AR-15 prop gun to a shopper in a video released by the organizations. “Adam Lanza’s mom had this in her collection too. Until he took this and several other guns and killed her, then went down to Sandy Hook and killed six teachers and 20 innocent children.”

Groups set up fake New York City gun shop, shame would-be gun buyers (VIDEO)

[panama hat]

So, what's your problem with it?


Anyway, it continues unabated - footage recently released:

Video released of Dallas police shooting mentally ill black man dead at home | US news | The Guardian

This time a man - of course he is black - was holding a screwdriver . . . and had to be killed, as matter of course.



Certainly quick on the murder-finger . . .

[boloa]

Cop Who Shot At Van Full of Children is Wearing A Badge Again

Cop Who Shot At Van Full of Children is Wearing A Badge Again

[panama hat]

They all be gosh-durned heeeroes an yer a kommernist soscheelist if'n ye dun agreee

[Necron99]

So, what's your problem with it?


Anyway, it continues unabated - footage recently released:

Video released of Dallas police shooting mentally ill black man dead at home | US news | The Guardian

This time a man - of course he is black - was holding a screwdriver . . . and had to be killed, as matter of course.



Certainly quick on the murder-finger . . .

It's unbelievable, totally unbelievable.
That you don't know that taking the "s" out of the https in the video link stops tha page from breaking........




Oh and the video was murder.

[billy the kid]

there is a guy Tariq Nasheed on the Keiser report today explaining how white supremacy prolongs slavery among the black pop. in the west.
very interes ting. rt.com.