How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

**OhOh** · 24-09-2016, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

AP FACT CHECK: Syria's Assad on Aleppo, Siege and Airstrikes BEIRUT — During an interview with The Associated Press, Syrian President Bashar Assad made several denials, insisting that the city of Aleppo is not under siege and that Syrian and Russian aircraft did not carry out a strike on an aid convoy. He also said a U.S.-led coalition airstrike that killed more than 60 Syrian troops in the eastern Deir el-Zour province was "not an accident."

Another mega post, full of twisted words aimed at the sheep, all around the world, that confirms absolutely nothing.

Unnamed witnesses, non time lined assertions of democratically elected President Assad "lying" about the misspeaking of the UN and Ameristani officials, I do suppose you are aware of all the misspeaking by the UN and others, along with their revisions. No links to videos apparently proving Putin did it.

Even the Pope, if you accept he has a voice that maybe accepted, has cottoned on to the fact that this type of "Journalism"

is worse than the terrorism being reported on so flippantly. From a "trusted source" Reuters.

"Along the way, he has managed to stun even many Catholics with pronouncements about issues that they think should be none of his business. And now, as Reuters reports, Pope Francis appears to be aiming his papal power at press freedom of speech...

Journalism based on gossip or rumors is a form of "terrorism" and media that stereotype entire populations or foment fear of migrants are acting destructively, Pope Francis said on Thursday.

Francis, who made his comments in an address to leaders of Italy's national journalists' guild, said reporters had to go the extra mile to seek the truth, particularly in an age of round-the-clock news coverage.

Spreading rumors is an example of "terrorism, of how you can kill a person with your tongue", he said. "This is even more true for journalists because their voice can reach everyone and this is a very powerful weapon."

...

Francis, who has often strongly defended the rights of refugees and migrants, said journalism should not be used as a "weapon of destruction against persons and even entire peoples".

"Neither should it foment fear before events like forced migration from war or from hunger,"

Pope Slams Rumor-Mongers, Journalists As "Potential Weapons Of Mass Destruction" | Zero Hedge

If you wish to review another "theory" you might want to view this link:

Caught On Tape: Did The US Target Syrian Aid Convoy With Hellfire Missile? | Zero Hedge

It purports to show the raw video and the edited video utilised by some as "the truth". It depicts a strike at night, allegedly the attack on the aid convoy in Aleppo. There are some indications of a missile being used, whose visual signature points to an Ameristan manufactured one. No finger at who fired it as many countries have the same visual signature missile.

It also includes images of the said "witnesses". Typically it's the "white helmet" brigade. This group have already been outed as being funded by the crusader coalition, which sheds some doubt as to the reliability of their story.

Of course it wont have the kudos of the NYT's article to some, but readership as we all know can be purchased, along with dumb fucker's minds.

Similar evidence is available for those with enquiring minds on the Ameristani led, illegal attack, on the Syrian troops. But you can search for your self, if at all interested in the truth.

**OhOh** · 24-09-2016, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The quality depends entirely on the fish.

I suspect that the water quality, food eaten and fish egg processing has some sway on it's quality. But again, I bow to the the world's exceptional voice on all things true.

**Dragonfly** · 24-09-2016, 01:48 PM

don't blame bsnob, he lives in a basement and play computer games all day

probably smoke weeds between PS4 sessions,

so reality has not part in his life, it's all his interpretation of it

**harrybarracuda** · 24-09-2016, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The quality depends entirely on the fish.

I suspect that the water quality, food eaten and fish egg processing has some sway on it's quality. But again, I bow to the the world's exceptional voice on all things true.

It's the same water you dick.

The processing is identical.

Caviar is rated the same way Port is, by experts tasting it and making a judgement.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-09-2016, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by bsnub

AP FACT CHECK: Syria's Assad on Aleppo, Siege and Airstrikes BEIRUT — During an interview with The Associated Press, Syrian President Bashar Assad made several denials, insisting that the city of Aleppo is not under siege and that Syrian and Russian aircraft did not carry out a strike on an aid convoy. He also said a U.S.-led coalition airstrike that killed more than 60 Syrian troops in the eastern Deir el-Zour province was "not an accident."

Another mega post, full of twisted words aimed at the sheep, all around the world, that confirms absolutely nothing.

Unnamed witnesses, non time lined assertions of democratically elected President Assad "lying" about the misspeaking of the UN and Ameristani officials, I do suppose you are aware of all the misspeaking by the UN and others, along with their revisions. No links to videos apparently proving Putin did it.

Even the Pope, if you accept he has a voice that maybe accepted, has cottoned on to the fact that this type of "Journalism"

is worse than the terrorism being reported on so flippantly. From a "trusted source" Reuters.

"Along the way, he has managed to stun even many Catholics with pronouncements about issues that they think should be none of his business. And now, as Reuters reports, Pope Francis appears to be aiming his papal power at press freedom of speech...

Journalism based on gossip or rumors is a form of "terrorism" and media that stereotype entire populations or foment fear of migrants are acting destructively, Pope Francis said on Thursday.

Francis, who made his comments in an address to leaders of Italy's national journalists' guild, said reporters had to go the extra mile to seek the truth, particularly in an age of round-the-clock news coverage.

Spreading rumors is an example of "terrorism, of how you can kill a person with your tongue", he said. "This is even more true for journalists because their voice can reach everyone and this is a very powerful weapon."

...

Francis, who has often strongly defended the rights of refugees and migrants, said journalism should not be used as a "weapon of destruction against persons and even entire peoples".

"Neither should it foment fear before events like forced migration from war or from hunger,"

Pope Slams Rumor-Mongers, Journalists As "Potential Weapons Of Mass Destruction" | Zero Hedge

If you wish to review another "theory" you might want to view this link:

Caught On Tape: Did The US Target Syrian Aid Convoy With Hellfire Missile? | Zero Hedge

It purports to show the raw video and the edited video utilised by some as "the truth". It depicts a strike at night, allegedly the attack on the aid convoy in Aleppo. There are some indications of a missile being used, whose visual signature points to an Ameristan manufactured one. No finger at who fired it as many countries have the same visual signature missile.

It also includes images of the said "witnesses". Typically it's the "white helmet" brigade. This group have already been outed as being funded by the crusader coalition, which sheds some doubt as to the reliability of their story.

Of course it wont have the kudos of the NYT's article to some, but readership as we all know can be purchased, along with dumb fucker's minds.

Similar evidence is available for those with enquiring minds on the Ameristani led, illegal attack, on the Syrian troops. But you can search for your self, if at all interested in the truth.

Poor OhOh, if RT says it happens, he believes it without question; if Syrians on the ground say it happens, he denies it without question.

What a brainwashed Putin arselicker.

**bsnub** · 24-09-2016, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Poor OhOh, if RT says it happens, he believes it without question; if Syrians on the ground say it happens, he denies it without question. What a brainwashed Putin arselicker.

Well he is quoting zero hedge now. Welcome to ohDOH's alternate reality. From a former writer for the site;

“I can’t be a 24-hour cheerleader for Hezbollah, Moscow, Tehran, Beijing, and Trump anymore. It’ s wrong. Period. I know it gets you views now, but it will kill your brand over the long run,” Lokey texted Ivandjiiski. “This isn’t a revolution. It’s a joke.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-renegade-blog

**Neo** · 24-09-2016, 03:07 PM

easier for harry and snubs to spew vitriol here than it is to comment on the atrocities being carried out in the name of 'democracy' it seems...

It is reported that up to 90 Syrian government soldiers were mistakenly killed during the raid near a military airport.

Australian defense officials have said the coalition operation was targeting what was thought to have been an Islamic State fighting unit it had been tracking for some time.

Speaking in New York, where he is attending the United Nations’ General assembly, Turnbull told reporters the airstrikes were aborted as soon as the mistake came to light.

“There were Australian aircraft involved in the operation. As soon as the commanders were advised that there were Syrian government forces affected the operation was discontinued and we regret the loss of life,” said Turnbull.

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/16931...ed-syrian.html (Australia Expresses Regret Over Botched Syrian Airstrikes)

**bsnub** · 24-09-2016, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

easier for harry and snubs to spew vitriol

Hey fuck off I am no supporter of the US efforts there. I am just calling bullshit on another poster who is putting up propaganda from discredited sources.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-09-2016, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

easier for harry and snubs to spew vitriol here than it is to comment on the atrocities being carried out in the name of 'democracy' it seems...

It is reported that up to 90 Syrian government soldiers were mistakenly killed during the raid near a military airport.

Australian defense officials have said the coalition operation was targeting what was thought to have been an Islamic State fighting unit it had been tracking for some time.

Speaking in New York, where he is attending the United Nations’ General assembly, Turnbull told reporters the airstrikes were aborted as soon as the mistake came to light.

“There were Australian aircraft involved in the operation. As soon as the commanders were advised that there were Syrian government forces affected the operation was discontinued and we regret the loss of life,” said Turnbull.

https://teakdoor.com/world-news/16931...ed-syrian.html (Australia Expresses Regret Over Botched Syrian Airstrikes)

It was a fuck up plain and simple, something at which Americans are spectacularly good.

But it has nothing to do with the propaganda that Putin and Assad spew out.

Before you start having a pop, you might actually notice they fucking admitted to it, dickhead.

Not that it makes it any better, they are the worst nation for blue on blue on the planet.

**Neo** · 24-09-2016, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

dickhead

always easy to tell when you're on the backfoot harry...
just keep sucking on the coalition cock and dreaming it was putin's

**Dragonfly** · 24-09-2016, 06:48 PM

harry suck Arabs cocks for a living out of the fucking desert

**harrybarracuda** · 24-09-2016, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

dickhead

always easy to tell when you're on the backfoot harry...
just keep sucking on the coalition cock and dreaming it was putin's

I only demean those that deserve it.

You keep spouting this shite because you can't read properly.

**harrybarracuda** · 24-09-2016, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

harry suck Arabs cocks for a living out of the fucking desert

I told you Buttplug, keep your dirty fantasies out of the forum.

If you want a change from the ladyboy cock, go to the Grace and ask nicely.

**OhOh** · 25-09-2016, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The processing is identical. Caviar is rated the same way Port is, by experts tasting it and making a judgement.

As I said harry you are obviously an expert on caviar.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Well he is quoting zero hedge now

If you actually know Zero Hedge, you would know that it reprints many articles from a variety of sources. Not that you ever read anything that doesn't confirm to your twisted idea of truth.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am just calling bullshit on another poster who is putting up propaganda from discredited sources.

Discredited, or they do not fit your "wisdom"?

**harrybarracuda** · 25-09-2016, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The processing is identical. Caviar is rated the same way Port is, by experts tasting it and making a judgement.

As I said harry you are obviously an expert on caviar.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Well he is quoting zero hedge now

If you actually know Zero Hedge, you would know that it reprints many articles from a variety of sources. Not that you ever read anything that doesn't confirm to your twisted idea of truth.

Originally Posted by bsnub

I am just calling bullshit on another poster who is putting up propaganda from discredited sources.

Discredited, or they do not fit your "wisdom"?

Says the man who believes RT speaks the truth.

Fucking hell OhOh, pots, kettles, black, etc.

**bsnub** · 25-09-2016, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

If you actually know Zero Hedge, you would know that it reprints many articles from a variety of sources.

I do read the site and it is mostly garbage. Did you bother to read the article I posted?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Discredited, or they do not fit your "wisdom"?

Many of the site you post are funded directly or indirectly by the Kremlin so yes discredited.

**OhOh** · 25-09-2016, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Says the man who believes RT speaks the truth.

You are misspeaking again harry. Care to post where I agreed with you that RT posts the truth?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Did you bother to read the article I posted?

Which one #2270 ?

**harrybarracuda** · 25-09-2016, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Says the man who believes RT speaks the truth.

You are misspeaking again harry. Care to post where I agreed with you that RT posts the truth?

How could you "agree with me" that RT posts the truth when I've repeatedly stated that it's a horseshit propaganda channel that does what Putin wants it to do?

**OhOh** · 27-09-2016, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

it's a horseshit propaganda channel that does what Putin wants it to do?

Many a time harry RT covers subjects which are carried in or on other channels. What they provide is quotes from establishment leaders, politically, financially and military.

Here is today's revelation. it's not so much harry the RT bias it's the quoted statements which are missing from probably your own sources.

https://www.rt.com/usa/360700-syria-...te-department/

https://www.rt.com/news/360690-us-arms-nusra-syria/

Some excerpts for you.

"Al-Nusra Front is a terrorist group and the US will never provide it with any aid, said the State Department, reacting to revelations in a German newspaper – while admitting that unnamed US allies might be backing the jihadist militants in Syria."

"On Monday, the German newspaper Kölner Stadt-Anzeiger published an interview with an Al-Nusra commander in Syria, identified only as “Abu Al-Ezz.” In the interview, conducted 10 days ago outside of Aleppo, Al-Ezz said that US allies were providing Al-Nusra with tanks and artillery."

"Asked to clarify if that meant that US allies might be arming Al-Nusra, Toner replied that “countries that support the opposition may want to supply them with assistance.”

Al-Nusra has been receiving funding from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait, and has obtained tanks and artillery from Libya via Turkey, according to what the commander, Al-Ezz, told the German newspaper. The group especially appreciated the US-supplied TOW anti-tank missiles.

“The missiles were given directly to us,” he said. “They were delivered to a certain group.”

I have no idea as to the status of the newspaper or the alleged Al-Nusra commander.

What are facts widely supported in many sources .

1. The crusader coalition supports aid for all in Syria, no differentiation between head choppers or ordinary Syrians.
2. The crusader coalition sells or allows the acquisition of military hardware, trains head choppers on the us of the hardware, allows medical aid to reach the head choppers or ships the injured out of area.
3. The crusader coalition renegades on agreements when they fail to manage what they call "moderate" head choppers.
4. The crusader coalition "mistakenly" slaughters SAA and possibly others fighting the head choppers. Why do I use the word slaughter. Because the head choppers officially have no airforce and as such the SAA would not be afraid of aircraft. Possibly in their southern border, adjacent Israel, they do monitor and, allegedly, take down Israeli air assets.

If you feel the sources, the newspaper and the named source are fictitious, say so. If you believe the facts, above, are wrong say so. To blame a fellow poster who reads one particular publisher, RT, is infantile. If you can prove with facts that your sources are more trustworthy do so and I will modify my view. Currently you and some other posters either cannot recognise that, as you suggest, their own sources may be being used in a propaganda war or you cannot except possible alternate views.

I do understand a propaganda war is being raged, what I find infantile is posters using unnamed sources in articles and ignoring the published statements from government officials - from both sides.

**Dragonfly** · 27-09-2016, 12:23 PM

RT is not more bias than Al Jazera or CNN or CNBC or BBC

**harrybarracuda** · 27-09-2016, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

RT is not more bias than Al Jazera or CNN or CNBC or BBC

You're an idiot.

Shut up and go and order the cake.

**Cold Pizza** · 08-10-2016, 10:56 AM

It's a delicate situation and the US is acting foolishly, IMO.

**Dragonfly** · 08-10-2016, 01:30 PM

Americans need another kicking, apparently Iraq and Syria wasn't enough

**bsnub** · 08-10-2016, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Iraq and Syria wasn't enough

Nobody kicked America in either of those places you clown.

**Dragonfly** · 08-10-2016, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Iraq and Syria wasn't enough

Nobody kicked America in either of those places you clown.

dude, stop smoking pot, you need to snap back to reality

Iraq, Americans getting their ass kicked by locals
Syria, Americans getting their ass kicked by Russians

GAME OVER DUDE

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