Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

There were sporadic clashes with police and several marchers were taken to hospital with injuries, but the violence was minor compared to some previous summits.

German police clash with anti-G7 protesters day before summit

http://rt.com/news/265438-g7-summit-bavaria-protest/

Protesters and police clash as G7 leaders prepare to discuss corruption and trade | Global | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by Klondyke

There were sporadic clashes with police and several marchers were taken to hospital with injuries, but the violence was minor compared to some previous summits.

German police clash with anti-G7 protesters day before summit

G7 summit in Germany gets under way amid mass protests LIVE UPDATES ? RT News

Protesters and police clash as G7 leaders prepare to discuss corruption and trade | Global | The Guardian

rt.com (Russia Today) is russian government-owned propaganda agency

How about reading about it from the country itself, like reliable Deutsche Welle?
Protesters attack police ahead of G7 meeting | Germany | DW.DE | 06.06.2015

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

rt.com (Russia Today) is russian government-owned propaganda agency How about reading about it from the country itself, like reliable Deutsche Welle? Protesters attack police ahead of G7 meeting | Germany | DW.DE | 06.06.2015

As a matter of fact, I am watching Deutsche Welle in English and Deutsch (state propaganda TV paid by German Bundestag) as well as RT (among others). How do you think that e.g. FOX News had reported about Wall Street Occupy?

Protesters and police clash as G7 leaders prepare to discuss corruption and trade

Several people taken to hospital after scuffles in German town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen as demonstrators, some throwing bottles, face off with riot police

Protesters have clashed with police in the German resort town of Garmisch-Partenkirchen as G7 leaders prepared for wide-ranging talks on subjects from Fifa corruption to controversial free trade agreements.

Police responded with pepper spray when a group of marchers tried to break through their cordon. Scuffles broke out as the demonstrators, some throwing bottles, faced off with riot police in a narrow lane of Alpine houses on the edge of the town.

Occasional clashes followed as the demonstrators snaked their way back through the town. One paramedic said several protesters had been taken to hospital and he was aware of around 30 people with minor injuries.
A police spokeswoman could not give any official figures on casualties nor say whether there had been any arrests.

The crowd was estimated by police at 3,500-4,000 while organisers put it at 7,500. Police vastly outnumbered the marchers in the picturesque former Winter Olympics venue at the foot of Germany’s highest mountain, the Zugspitze.

Protesters and police clash as G7 leaders prepare to discuss corruption and trade | Global | The Guardian

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

rt.com (Russia Today) is russian government-owned propaganda agency

EU sets up team to counter Russian propaganda



European Parliament recently approved a motion which stated Russia had initiated "an undeclared hybrid war against Ukraine, including information war, propaganda, and political destabilisation"

EU sets up team to counter Russian propaganda - read on - uatoday.tv

Freedom of the speech for everybody is guaranteed (provided that the speech does comply with my speech)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

rt.com (Russia Today) is russian government-owned propaganda agency How about reading about it from the country itself, like reliable Deutsche Welle? Protesters attack police ahead of G7 meeting | Germany | DW.DE | 06.06.2015

As a matter of fact, I am watching Deutsche Welle in English and Deutsch (state propaganda TV paid by German Bundestag) as well as RT (among others). How do you think that e.g. FOX News had reported about Wall Street Occupy?

Good for you. Germany however is a democratic country and not one dictator defines what is shown on telly. Bundestag consists of many parties with very different views as well, just to let you know, and as far as I recall CDU, SPD and CSU are in government but your loved Left and Greens are in opposision,

As for FOX News, I watch them only occasionally in shower but recall/think they bashed the on-the-dole anarchists of "Occupy" quite badly. In my opinion those anarchists should have been tear gassed way earlier to let people do their work normally.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Germany however is a democratic country and not one dictator defines what is shown on telly

Leading German Journalist Admits CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Other Leaders of the Western ‘Press’

Udo Ulfkotte, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (which is one of Germany’s largest newspapers), has decided to go public about the corruption of himself and the rest of the Western ‘news’ media, because he finds that this corruption is bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink.

Leading German Journalist Admits CIA 'Bribed' Him and Other Leaders of the Western 'Press' Washington's Blog

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Udo Ulfkotte, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (which is one of Germany’s largest newspapers), has decided to go public about the corruption of himself and the rest of the Western ‘news’ media, because he finds that this corruption is bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink.

He is promoting a book he wrote about corruption in publishing. Not that he is totally wrong.

This guy "a former editor" is just one journalist amongst thousands in Europe. After a brief glance, it seems it is more likely he is working for SVR. (russian foreign intel service)

"bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink" Guy has had too much yaba or whatever they have there, crack?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Germany however is a democratic country and not one dictator defines what is shown on telly

Leading German Journalist Admits CIA ‘Bribed’ Him and Other Leaders of the Western ‘Press’

Udo Ulfkotte, a former editor of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (which is one of Germany’s largest newspapers), has decided to go public about the corruption of himself and the rest of the Western ‘news’ media, because he finds that this corruption is bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink.

Leading German Journalist Admits CIA 'Bribed' Him and Other Leaders of the Western 'Press' Washington's Blog

Bloody petrol bottle bomb anarchist.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

because he finds that this corruption is bringing Europe too close to a nuclear war against Russia, which he concludes the U.S. aristocracy that controls the CIA wants to bring about, or else to bring closer to the brink.

How does facilitating a nuclear war help the U.S. aristocracy? That is extremely illogical.

Errrr... armaments..?

The Last Fire Sale
A fire sale to end all fire sales.

It might be worse; think what might happen if we were not an evolved species.

Maybe they're high?

Originally Posted by spliff

Maybe they're high?

That guy with the Obama T shirt looks like a stoner...

This will have him squealing like a schoolgirl....

A report in the New York Times claims the US is planning to transfer heavy military equipment to the Baltic states and East European nations.

If true it would be the first time since the Cold War that the US has stationed weapons in the new NATO countries that were once allied with Moscow.

The article quotes unnamed officials claiming the Pentagon is poised to send tanks, armoured vehicles and other heavy weaponry sufficient for a force of around 5000 troops.

The paper says the countries would include the three Baltic states as well as Poland, Romania, Bulgaria and possibly Hungary.

An official is quoted as saying the the move is to reassure US NATO allies who are uneasy about Russian intervention in Ukraine, as well as to deter further aggression.

In a statement a Pentagon spokesman said no decision has yet been taken on the storage of military equipment.

But the paper claimed the proposal is expected to be approved by the US Defence Secretary Ash Carter before a NATO defence ministers’ meeging in Brussels later this month.

Newspaper report claims US poised to send heavy weaponry to Eastern Europe | euronews, world news

the west won't give up on this
they will hound him until Crimea is handed back
and he gets back to where he once belonged..

I don't think getting him to hand back Crimea is the goal.

It is making sure he regrets politically and financially his tactically agressive approach to the affair which is the geo-politically worthwhile exercise.

Originally Posted by billy the kid

they will hound him until Crimea is handed back

I say with some confidence that ain't gonna happen. Those poor, oppressed Crimean gulag dwellers must be soo jealous of those over the border.

Over the last 15 months Ukrainians have paid for Washington’s overthrow of their elected government in deaths, dismemberment of their country, and broken economic and political relationships with Russia that cost Ukraine its subsidized energy. Now Ukrainians are losing their pensions and traditional support payments. The Ukrainian population is headed for the graveyard.

On June 1 the TASS news agency reported that Ukraine has stopped payments to pensioners, World War II veterans, people with disabilities, and victims of Chernobyl. According to the report, Kiev has also “eliminated transport, healthcare, utilities and financial benefits for former prisoners of Nazi concentration camps and recipients of some Soviet-era orders and titles. Compensations to families with children living in the areas contaminated by radiation from the Chernobyl accident will be no longer paid either. Ukraine’s parliamentary opposition believes that the Prosecutor General’s Office should launch an investigation against Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk who actively promoted the law on the abolition of privileges.”

Notice that this is a yank of the blanket from under the elderly in Ukraine. “Useless eaters,” they are assigned to the trash can. How do the deceived Maiden student protesters feel now that they are culpable in the destruction of their grandparents’ support systems? Do these gullible fools still believe in the Washington-orchestrated Maiden Revolution? The crimes in which these stupid students are complicit are horrific.

Ukrainians Dispossessed, Americans are next -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org


Crimea returning to the Ukrainian fold is about as likely as Slovenia returning to a Yugoslav federation.

^^ I agree, Looper. I think that's also Putin's approach.

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by billy the kid

they will hound him until Crimea is handed back

I say with some confidence that ain't gonna happen. Those poor, oppressed Crimean gulag dwellers must be soo jealous of those over the border.

Over the last 15 months Ukrainians have paid for Washington’s overthrow of their elected government in deaths, dismemberment of their country, and broken economic and political relationships with Russia that cost Ukraine its subsidized energy. Now Ukrainians are losing their pensions and traditional support payments. The Ukrainian population is headed for the graveyard.

On June 1 the TASS news agency reported that Ukraine has stopped payments to pensioners, World War II veterans, people with disabilities, and victims of Chernobyl. According to the report, Kiev has also “eliminated transport, healthcare, utilities and financial benefits for former prisoners of Nazi concentration camps and recipients of some Soviet-era orders and titles. Compensations to families with children living in the areas contaminated by radiation from the Chernobyl accident will be no longer paid either. Ukraine’s parliamentary opposition believes that the Prosecutor General’s Office should launch an investigation against Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk who actively promoted the law on the abolition of privileges.”

Notice that this is a yank of the blanket from under the elderly in Ukraine. “Useless eaters,” they are assigned to the trash can. How do the deceived Maiden student protesters feel now that they are culpable in the destruction of their grandparents’ support systems? Do these gullible fools still believe in the Washington-orchestrated Maiden Revolution? The crimes in which these stupid students are complicit are horrific.

Ukrainians Dispossessed, Americans are next -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org


Crimea returning to the Ukrainian fold is about as likely as Slovenia returning to a Yugoslav federation.

I realised that this bloke is full of shit when I read " In Great Britain everything achieved by the Labour Party over many decades has been taken away".

He's either a nutter or he's got one wicked sense of humour!

Originally Posted by sabang

destruction of their grandparents’ support systems?

think those grandparents will have long memories and Russia's treatment of Ukrainians
during WW11.

UNcomfortable for the Ukrain to have Russia sitting on one of their strategic bases.

Who knows what damage the sanctions will cause.

Short game or Long game.

Americans packing the whole area with heavy duty weapons.

Anyway God bless America.