Not really- because then we only end up with new psychopaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
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Not really- because then we only end up with new psychopaths.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
^As some have said:
"We are none of us any longer invited to “buy into” ideas, products, policies and procedures: increasingly, we are ordered to conform – or else".
Stop accepting and demand or at least adopt a different attitude.Influence is a drink best delivered cautiously.
I know. Such a shame, heh?Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
IN actual fact, taking money creation and control away from the banksters would be a good start (as well as a raft of imprisonments). Problem is the system is so corrupt and owned now around the world it will take a mass non compliance to change things which with so many still buying all the fake left right us and them paradigm, it will never happen.
To push the Minsk II agreement towards it's end, the Eastern Freedom Fighters have unilaterally moved all weapons less than 100mm back from the front line, under OSCE supervision, allegedly.
E. Ukraine rebels withdraw lighter weapons from front line ? RT News
Militias in Lugansk say that they have pulled back all weapons of less than 100 mm caliber from the front line to a distance of at least 3 kilometers from the frontline, excepting the area around the village of Schastie.“All commanders have reported the withdrawal of equipment. Therefore all tanks, APCs, MT-LBs which carry antiaircraft emplacement, and other less than 100 mm caliber arms have been pulled back,” the militias told LuganskInformCenter."
"The authorities of the fellow self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR) announced a similar move, adding that monitors of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe are witnessing the redeployment.
DNR spokesperson Eduard Basurin said that the militias withdrew more than 40 tanks and 80 infantry fighting vehicles on Sunday."
Kiev is doubtful though.
"Kiev authorities, however, say they doubt that the rebels are actually pulling weapons back. “They say one thing and do the opposite,” the Ukrainian presidential administration’s spokesman for the military operation, Aleksander Motuzyanik, told RIA Novosti."
'We see movement of military hardware away from contact line' – OSCE
'We see movement of military hardware away from contact line' ? OSCE ? RT News
"OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine confirmed that it had seen weapons being withdrawn from the front line in eastern Ukraine on Monday. However, the mission needs "additional information" in order to verify the move, an OSCE official told RT.
"What we see at the moment is a movement of military hardware away from the contact line," Deputy Chief Monitor of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine Alexander Hug told RT on Monday.
To provide "an actual verification of a withdrawal," the monitors need "to be provided with additional baseline information, in order to be sure that weapons are not just being moved around, but are actually withdrawn, and remain withdrawn," he added.
Saying that it was "up to the sides to put action behind their words," Hug said that OSCE would welcome "a reciprocal action on both sides" of the conflict. "This type of disengagement is required in all of the hotspots," he added."
Ukraine hots up again.
The US delivers it's promised "non-leathal" :rolleyes: armoured cars to Odessa.
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"The delivery of 100 HMMWV (High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle) military vehicles, also known as Humvees, was made Saturday in the Ukrainian port city of Odessa. The information was largely sourced from the US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt.
“Another 100 humvees for #Ukraine delivered to #Odesa this morning – making good on @VP’s commitment in March,” he wrote on his Twitter feed.
The first 30 Humvees were delivered to Ukraine in March as the US announced the promise of 230 military vehicles and additional military equipment worth $75 million."
But, more shocking, Putin changes his vocabulary. He now uses "geopolitical opponents" instead of the former "partners" when alluding to the "exceptional" countries.
From his Security Council meeting speech:
July 3, 2015, The Kremlin, Moscow
President of Russia
"Colleagues, recent events show that we cannot hope that some of our geopolitical opponents will change their hostile course anytime in the foreseeable future. The EU countries recently extended the sanctions they have imposed on us, and discussions continue in the United States on toughening sanctions against us."
When will this man learn how to bow and kiss his betters arse ? :rolleyes:
^ when you have a moment can you post up the pictures of the agressive Russian State (not ethnic russians from Ukraine or vehicles made in Russia) army that according to WaSHILLington is rampaging by the thousand through Ukraine. I've asked this before, but none of the warmongers have been able to back up their assertion with proof.
Thanks
^Unfortunately the photos provided by my master :rolleyes: have, according to the Thai Post Office tracking service, been held at Vauxhall Cross, 85 Albert Embankment, London, SE1 7TP for some unexplained reason.
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I did telephone the address and was told they would only be handed to me personally. They also mentioned to bring a change of clothes, a toothbrush and some lubrication jelly - to diminish the pain and scarring. After informing them I was in Thailand, they said to go to The Dolls House, Soi Cowboy, Bangkok and ask for Lek. She would "take care" of me.
Hopefully after the harvesting has been completed I will have time to pop in and see Lek. :)
What would be the point? You'd only say "That's made up", or "Oh yeah right, so you can trust that corporate controlled media mouthpiece" or whatever other bollocks feeds your denial.Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
Putin?s Secret Warriors: Russian Soldiers Sent to Fight in Ukraine
Oh, certainly no russian troops in Ukraine. It is a handful of unarmed Donezk coal miners that is trashing the ukrainian army.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pseudolus
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Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
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No Ukrainian troops crossed over in the year or so eh, no Ukrainian officers either?Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeovers
No Ukrainian troops stationed in the east joined the rebels eh.
Better shoot a few more videos to convince the waverers.:)
So you've read it already then.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
:smileylaughing:
Problem No. 1 -The link went to a "Newsweek" site,
Problem No.2 The newsweek site says I can't read it without "subscribing".
You know I always take a look at your post links Harry :)
Any other links you have to the original story or am I to assume it's a "Newsweek" article.
Go Problem No. 1
So long as Putin keeps Snowden safe from the American Government, he can't be all bad.
The gist of it is:
And our mate Vlad:Quote:
On March 2, 2015, US Army Europe Commander Ben Hodges estimated that 12,000 Russian soldiers, including "military advisers, weapons operators and combat troops," are active in eastern Ukraine.
There have been hundreds, likely thousands, of Russian citizens who have voluntarily crossed the border into Ukraine on their own accord. Putin has confirmed this, and many eager Russians even filled out online applications to join the separatist ranks—that is how easy it is to become a separatist fighter in Ukraine.
Vladimir Putin declares all Russian military deaths state secrets | World news | The Guardian
He's a lad, ain't he?
:)
The US "estimate" 12,000 soldiers. Do they all have stealth capes?
"Somebody" states 100's or "likely" 1,000s, crossing the border for what? Who said it? Ukraine has some very good beaches for holidays and an APC/Humvee is purely a nonlethal means of transport, alleges the crusader coalition. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Putin has allegedly confirmed "this" or what! A link to the report of "Putin actually "saying it" would be more trusted , by any doubters.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Still it was "Newsweak".Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
As for what one country considers to be "state secrets" :rofl:
And there you go, and you wonder why people don't post things for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
You are in denial.
So it's a bit fucking pointless.
I could lob Russian soldiers' body parts on your doorstep and you'd say it was your neighbour dropping off dog food.
I gave up long ago these idiots have made up their minds in spite of the mountains of evidence that Russia has been deeply involved in all aspects if this war. Providing military equipment, logistical support ammunition and ultimately sending soldiers over the boarder when the drunken incompetent rebels find themselves in trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Don't forget to set your alarm for next weeks thrilling installment of:
The H & B Show
:tieme:
More laughs than Benny Hill
Will harry post another unattributed rant?
More tension than Crossroads!!
Will bsnub add anything that might change the unconvinced mind?
More cafe scenes than Eastenders!!
The SUN and Daily Mail scattered thoughtfully for the camera to zoom in on.
More bullets shot than xxxxx movie!!
But was it Mr White with the 25mm, armour piercing, bullets or the shrapnel from Mr. Blacks mysterious missile, launched from an invisible launcher, somewhere in Europe or as some nowadays call it, East Asia.
I hope you are spending your appearance fees well. This thread would die without you ancient/slack/myopic comments. The view numbers are on an increasingly upward trajectory. Your two a month would not be missed.
And this is just the sort of vacuous response one can expect with someone so delusional.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
Vacuous..? I'd say there's plenty to get your false teeth into there Harry ;)
Of course they have you ****, it's their ****ing border.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
It's not like the US is under the threat of imminent invasion so what the fuck are the US doing there? Get a ****ing grip :D
I would have thought it's fairly fucking obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoOf course they have you ****, it's their ****ing border.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
It's not like the US is under the threat of imminent invasion so what the fuck are the US doing there? Get a ****ing grip :D
Stopping that madman Putin going further.
Let's not forget Russia invaded a sovereign nation and annexed its territory, eh?
Dontchya hate it when that happens huh..?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/07/1729.jpg :smileylaughing:
What sovereign country? Ukraine? Doubtfoul it can be called a country. Half of it was known as Little Russia for 1,000 years. The other half was annexed from Poland, Romania, the Ottomans, the Habsburgs (nowadays Hungary and Slovakia) by the Russians. I you wish to apply international law as opposed to business interests of Merka, the artificial structure Ukraine without a native population and history of its own would seize to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaI would have thought it's fairly fucking obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoOf course they have you ****, it's their ****ing border.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsnub
It's not like the US is under the threat of imminent invasion so what the fuck are the US doing there? Get a ****ing grip :D
Stopping that madman Putin going further.
Let's not forget Russia invaded a sovereign nation and annexed its territory, eh?
When you answer or respond to post 1297 in an reasonable way you might receive a considered reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Until you do you will be made an example of in any I wish, unless of course the mods decide, not you, that the thread has run it's course and suspend any more comments.
If they decide that posts regarding an ongoing war, where people continue to die daily, has finished or that the Russian President's speeches are no longer newsworthy in respect to the war or Russia's relationship with the other world powers I would be forced to stop posting on this thread. :)
Maybe the Russians did lose a sub in Swedish waters, last year, 100 years ago, who cares?
http://www.rt.com/news/310967-sweden...bmarine-found/
"Ghosts of Russian submarines continue to haunt Sweden, as salvage hunters say they have discovered one such sunken vessel not far from the country’s coast. The military are looking into the images, but experts say the sub may actually be a century old.
“A Russian mini-submarine has been discovered at Swedish territorial waters not far from the Swedish coast. The submarine is about 20 meters long and three and a half meters wide,” Ocean X Team, a group of Icelandic salvage hunters, who discovered the wreckage, said in a statement.
The group says that it is yet unclear how old the submarine is and “how long it has been [lying on] the sea floor.”
The fact that the sunken ship belongs to Russia is proved by “Cyrillic letters on the hull,” says the group."
Does any other country use cyrillic letters?
But even the Swedes military are sceptical.
“It is they who claim it's a submarine,” Swedish Armed Forces spokesman Anders Kallin said. “Our analysts have not yet presented their conclusions and want to see more images which the company will send to us.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ChGrVJtg0
What if Snowden was russian or euro agent from the beginning, programmed to discredit NSA and GCHQ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BobR
Let's not forget French spy US and EU. Let's not forget Germans spy France and US and UK and EU... I feel safer with NSA and GCHQ because there is at least some level of democratic control and they fight organized crime and terrorism more than you will ever know.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../bund-m20.html
I spy, you spy | The Economist
I made a point in posting the first link opposed to what I believe in, to give balanced view
German spy agency seeks millions to monitor social networks outside Germany
German spy agency seeks millions to monitor social networks outside Germany | PCWorld
Clearly on record that I fucking denounced that shit as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoDontchya hate it when that happens huh..?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/07/1729.jpg :smileylaughing:
Both of those can go up against the wall with Putin in my book.
I answer reason with reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by OhOh
I answer bollocks with the words "That's bollocks".
Putin's not even in the same league though clearly, how many died when Russia annexed Crimea..? How many in the whole Donetsk region..? Now how many died when the two crims pictured above invaded Iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracudaClearly on record that I fucking denounced that shit as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoDontchya hate it when that happens huh..?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2015/07/1729.jpg :smileylaughing:
Both of those can go up against the wall with Putin in my book.
Double standards methinks. :chitown:
Russia apologists are centrally funded and there is no point in feeding the troll
I don't do varying degrees of war criminals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neo
War criminal -> Execution.
Along with the paedos.
Big cop out there Harry, though I'm sure you're perfectly capable of seeing it in black and white if you want to. Thread title though is 'How dangerous is Vlad the Bad?' Emphasis on the How?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Question then:
If you are calling Putin a war criminal, are you saying that you can not differentiate the severity of crime committed by individual war criminals, or that you choose not to do so?
:chitown:
When you invade a country for no reason and civilians die, you are a war criminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoBig cop out there Harry, though I'm sure you're perfectly capable of seeing it in black and white if you want to. Thread title though is 'How dangerous is Vlad the Bad?' Emphasis on the How?Quote:
Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
Question then:
If you are calling Putin a war criminal, are you saying that you can not differentiate the severity of crime committed by individual war criminals, or that you choose not to do so?
:chitown:
Doesn't matter to me if it's 100 or 100,000.
So zero objectivity on your part then Harry, you don't expect people to take you seriously. Ok
Who are you funded by, rusky troll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Exit Strategy