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    Oil and gas account for 70% of Russia's exports. If that doesn't make it a fucking gas station then I do not know what would.

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    Australia has been described as a big hole in the ground. But we do well from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Oil and gas account for 70% of Russia's exports. If that doesn't make it a fucking gas station then I do not know what would.
    Oil and gas was 15% of Russia's GDP in the 90's. It's around 7% or something now.

    I'll provide proofs when you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Australia has been described as a big hole in the ground. But we do well from it.
    I guess Russia is supposed to apologize for making the best of their opportunities. It took Apple till 2015 to beat Gazprom for the most profitable quarter. Not bad for some Commi throwbacks

    Apple dethrones Gazprom for the most profitable corporate quarter in the history of mankind - PhoneArena

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Telegram social media app

    Telegram surpassed 500 million monthly active users. It was the 8th most downloaded app worldwide in 2020.
    On January 12, 2021, Telegram becamethe second-most downloaded app in the U.S. and the platform's founder, Pavel Durov, announced on his channel that 25 million new users had joined the app in 72 hours.


    8th in the world and growing thanks to Twitters censorship. Not too shabby for a gas station.

    Very nice! Now search deeper and see how Putin fucked it up once again.
    Google Pavel Durov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post


    This Russian Software Is Taking Over the Internet | WIRED

    Nginx
    is a web server that can also be used as a reverse proxy, load balancer, mail proxy and HTTP cache. The software was created by Igor Sysoev and publicly released in 2004.[9] Nginx is free and open-source software, released under the terms of the 2-clause BSD license. A large fraction of web servers use NGINX,[10] often as a load balancer.[11]



    As of January 2021, Netcraft estimated that Apache served 24.63% of the million busiest websites, while Nginx served 23.21% and Microsoft is in third place at 6.85% (for some of Netcraft's other stats Nginx is ahead of Apache),[14] while according to W3Techs, Apache is ranked first at 35.0% and Nginx second at 33.0% and Cloudflare Server third at 17.3%.[15]

    According to
    Netcraft's November 2016 Web Server Survey,[16] Nginx was the second-most widely used web server across all "active" sites (18 percent of surveyed sites) and for the top million busiest sites (28 percent of surveyed sites). According to W3Techs, it was used by 38 percent of the top 1 million websites, 50 percent of the top 100,000 websites, and by 57 percent of the top 10,000 websites.[17] According to BuiltWith, it is used on 38 percent of the top 10,000 websites



    Very nice! And Putin once again fucked it up!

    SEATTLE – F5 Networks (NASDAQ: FFIV), the global leader in multi-cloud application services, announced today that it has completed the acquisition of NGINX, an open source leader in application delivery. On March 11, 2019, F5 announced that it had entered into an agreement to acquire NGINX.

    Did you ever wonder why all the young Russian entrepreneurs want to leave russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I guess Russia is supposed to apologize for making the best of their opportunities. It took Apple till 2015 to beat Gazprom for the most profitable quarter. Not bad for some Commi throwbacks

    Apple dethrones Gazprom for the most profitable corporate quarter in the history of mankind - PhoneArena
    Now just imagine Gazprom would have been managed by U.K. or Netherlands. Think you can follow?

    Does Shell ring a bell!

    Every Russian would be driving a Mercedes by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    So what have you established Herman? Vlad is very dangerous- but Russia is not? OK, it's back to China then, poised to become the World's largest economy.
    Putin has failed and the numbers proof it. Of course Russia is better off then 25 years ago, but so are most countries in this world.
    Is Putin dangerous? Yes, mostly to his own people.. like all Russian dictators.

    -Russians don't receive their hard earned social security when they decide to live in another country. The money stays in Russia.
    -If a Russian decides to give up his Russian citizenship he will loose ALL his social security.

    It has always been a bitch being a Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Very nice! And Putin once again fucked it up!

    SEATTLE – F5 Networks (NASDAQ: FFIV), the global leader in multi-cloud application services, announced today that it has completed the acquisition of NGINX, an open source leader in application delivery. On March 11, 2019, F5 announced that it had entered into an agreement to acquire NGINX.

    Did you ever wonder why all the young Russian entrepreneurs want to leave russia?
    Who cares if it was sold to a US company ? It was still built in Russia. And it also proves that the company had value.

    And......... It also proves that Putin did NOT fuck it up. He did not get in the way of the sale or try and control it or anything. Like the US and China do
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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Putin has failed and the numbers proof it. Of course Russia is better off then 25 years ago, but so are most countries in this world.
    Is Putin dangerous? Yes, mostly to his own people.. like all Russian dictators.

    -Russians don't receive their hard earned social security when they decide to live in another country. The money stays in Russia.
    -If a Russian decides to give up his Russian citizenship he will loose ALL his social security.

    It has always been a bitch being a Russian.


    Show me some numbers that prove Putin failed. Some tangible economic data that proves he failed.

    Russia has more foreign exchange reserves than India (a billion + people) and more gold reserves than China (a billion+ people) which puts it 5th place respectively. Now tell me what place Russia should be in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Very nice! And Putin once again fucked it up!

    SEATTLE – F5 Networks (NASDAQ: FFIV), the global leader in multi-cloud application services, announced today that it has completed the acquisition of NGINX, an open source leader in application delivery. On March 11, 2019, F5 announced that it had entered into an agreement to acquire NGINX.

    Did you ever wonder why all the young Russian entrepreneurs want to leave russia?
    I hate it when open source gets bought out. There should be a law against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Oil and gas was 15% of Russia's GDP in the 90's. It's around 7% or something now.
    Why do you bother trying to be part of a discussion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post

    Show me some numbers that prove Putin failed.
    Number 3!
    I have 3x Caviar lids in my kitchen made in U.S.S.R
    That's the only thing I have made in Russia aheeem... U.S.S.R.


    Number 144,5 million
    Russian citizens that want to leave their country (not including Backspin)

    Once again, I tried to keep it simple for you.

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    I'm just checking in.

    Is Putin dangerous? Absolutely not imho. Back to page one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by russellsimpson View Post
    I'm just checking in.

    Is Putin dangerous? Absolutely not imho. Back to page one.
    But you're not Syrian, Georgian, Ukranian, a journalist or an opposition politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Oil and gas account for 70% of Russia's exports.
    Actually, as per official (US) sources it was 52%, but perhaps it has changed since 21. January?

    What a luck that we have here experts who can feed us with figures and knowledge..


    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    Putin has failed and the numbers proof it. Of course Russia is better off then 25 years ago, but so are most countries in this world.
    Is Putin dangerous? Yes, mostly to his own people.. like all Russian dictators.
    That's why his approval is so high that no other world power leader ever had reached - and despite the generous help of his "friends" (those world power leaders) ...

    Quote Originally Posted by HermantheGerman View Post
    It has always been a bitch being a Russian.
    Wasn't it a favorite slogan of your compatriots after certain events at Stalingrad some 80 years ago?

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    We have missed to be informed what was this year at (virtual) Davos. Even the deafening silence of RFE, RFA, perhaps because the leadership was fully exchanged?

    From some we have learned something, but mostly something was lost in translation. Even in The Moscow Times report...

    Herewith a full transcript of the speech of dangerous Mr. Putin:

    Сессия онлайн-форума <<Давосская повестка дня 2021>> • Президент России

    And here some excerpts saying something else than our experts on China and Russia :

    Globalization and domestic growth have led to strong recovery in developing countries, lifting more than a billion people out of poverty. So, if we take the level of income at 5 , $ 5 per person per day (in purchasing power parity), then, according to World Bank estimates that in China, for example, the number of people with lower incomes decreased from 1.1 billion in 1990 to less than 300 million in recent years. This is definitely China's success. And in Russia from 64 million people in 1999 to about 5 million at present. And we believe that this is also a movement forward in our country in the most important direction, by the way.

    But what about the developed economies, where the level of average wealth is much higher? Paradoxical as it may sound, but the problems of stratification here, in developed countries, turned out to be even deeper. Thus, according to the World Bank, if 3.6 million people lived in the United States of America with an income of less than $ 5.5 per day, for example, in 2000, then in 2016 there were already 5.6 million people.


    During the same period, globalization led to a significant increase in the profits of large transnational, primarily American and European, companies.

    By the way, in terms of citizens, the developed economies of Europe have the same tendency as in the States.

    But again, if we talk about the profit of companies, who got the income? The answer is known, it is obvious - to one percent of the population.

    What happened in the lives of other people? Over the past 30 years, in a number of developed countries, incomes of more than half of citizens in real terms have stagnated and did not grow. But the cost of education and healthcare services has increased. And do you know how much? Three times.

    That is, millions of people, even in rich countries, have ceased to see the prospect of increasing their income. At the same time, they face problems, how to keep themselves and their parents healthy, how to provide quality education for children.

    A huge mass of people is also accumulating, who, in fact, turn out to be unclaimed. Thus, according to the International Labor Organization, in 2019, 21 percent, or 267 million young people in the world did not study anywhere and did not work anywhere. And even among working people (here is an interesting indicator, interesting figures), even among working people, 30 percent live with an income below 3.2 US dollars per day at purchasing power parity.

    Such distortions in global socio-economic development were a direct result of the policies pursued in the 1980s, and often carried out in a vulgar and dogmatic manner. This policy was based on the so-called Washington Consensus. With its unwritten rules, prioritizing private debt-led growth in an environment of deregulation and low taxes on the rich and corporations.

    As I said, the coronavirus pandemic has only exacerbated these problems. Last year, the decline in the global economy was the largest since the Second World War. By July, the labor market losses were equivalent to almost 500 million jobs. Yes, by the end of the year, half of them were restored. But still, this is almost 250 million lost jobs. This is a large and very alarming figure. In the first nine months of last year alone, the loss of labor income worldwide amounted to $ 3.5 trillion. And this figure continues to grow. This means that social tension in society is also growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Why do you bother trying to be part of a discussion?
    He is a moron and uncapable of knowing better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    That's why his approval is so high that no other world power leader ever had reached - and despite the generous help of his "friends" (those world power leaders) ...
    That's the problem with Russian people, they never learn. They like to be beaten, kicked, pissed on and treated like subhumans. Must be in their genes or something.

    A record 70 percent of Russians approve of Soviet leader Josef StalinÂ’s role in Russian history, according to a poll published by the independent Levada Center pollster on Tuesday.
    Stalin’s Approval Rating Among Russians Hits Record High – Poll - The Moscow Times


    If Hitler where Russian he would have a 99.9 approval

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Wasn't it a favorite slogan of your compatriots after certain events at Stalingrad some 80 years ago?
    It was before, it is now, and it will always be a bitch being a Russian. (see above)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Actually, as per official (US) sources it was 52%, but perhaps it has changed since 21. January?
    What a luck that we have here experts who can feed us with figures and knowledge..
    Speaking of knowledge, where is all that money going to?

    In 2019 Russia’s Natural Resources and Environment Ministry estimated the value of natural resources to $844 billion or 60% of the country's GDP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Why do you bother trying to be part of a discussion?
    Why don't you shut the fuck up ? You know oil and gas are 2 different things right ? The oil part is smaller than the gas part.

    All the fucking numbers that get trotted out are either percent of exports or percent of nominal GDP which amounts to the same thing.

    The real number is percent of PPP GDP. Not any of that other shit.

    I am still fucking looking for the number but total hydrocarbons as percent of PPP GDP was around 40% in the 1990's and it has fallen since. To somewhere around 20% or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    He is a moron and uncapable of knowing better.
    Oil and gas do not come even fucking close to 70% of total PPP GDP. Not even in the 90's when it was higher than it is now

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    Wikipedia

    In 2005, Russia ranked among the leading world producers or was a significant producer of a vast range of mineral commodities,including aluminum, arsenic, cement, copper, magnesium compounds and metals, nitrogen, palladium, silicon, nickel and vanadium.[1]

    In 2005, the Russian economy benefited significantly from high oil, gas, and metal prices. Oil revenues accounted for about 14% of the GDP.

    The value of mineral exports to the Russian economy has been increasing in recent years; and, in 2005, the minerals sector accounted for more than 70% of the value of exports. Mineral fuels were by far the leading category of exports in terms of value

    70% of *exports* are metal and mineral commodities.

    But John McCain probably logged into Wikipedia one day and misinterpreted a stat and assumed gas is 70% of GDP. Then he went on TV and said Russia is a gas station pretending to be a country. And that's what everyone believes
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But you're not Syrian, Georgian, Ukranian, a journalist or an opposition politician.
    I most often agree with your comments Harry. This time , not so much.

    Putin is not blameless for the pain, suffering and death in these countries you cite but neither is Hillary Clinton nor, by extension, Barack Obama. I found it pitiful how these folks, especially Clinton, acted during the so-called Arab Spring or whatever the hell it was called.

    When the Soviet Union fell it was most unfortunate that the Americans in particular saw it somehow as a great victory. It was also seriously a very poor move to rush to bring many of the former Warsaw pact nations into NATO. This was Russia's Near-Abroad. So a very serious threat. This is why imo when Putin came along and started to restore dignity in the country he was welcomed. And still is. Sure Navalny can bring a few tens of thousands of folks out onto the streets but in a nation of 140 million it doesn't mean a whole lot. The fact that the west continues to desire a clear win over Russia is pitiful. We are going to have to change our mindset in the west.

    Zero sum thinking has to change and it has to change yesterday.
    A true diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a manner that you will be asking for directions.

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