Thread: How dangerous is Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by OhOh

Nor its rubbleization of a certain Syrian city, a la Fallujah, all behind the veil of democracy. Liberating the children, it and it's blackmailed allies have the Lone Ranger masks on, SDF ..... No white helmets, no babies being killed, in fact no news, videos or deaths reported at all in MSM.

.... says the man who point blank refuses to believe citizen journalists unless they are toeing the Putin line.

You little joker you.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Putin is a fucking arsehole.

no, he is not

and why would you say that, out of the blue, you silly little ordinary authoritarian

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

no, he is not

and why would you say that, out of the blue, you silly little ordinary authoritarian

And Buttplug mangles the English language once again, while proving once more that he can't fucking read, either.

What a dickhead.

Putin lauds elimination of last chemical agent from Russian stockpiles as ‘historic event’

September 27, 15:52
Russia has completed the elimination of its chemical weapons stock ahead of schedule and the last batch was destroyed on Wednesday

NOVO-OGAREVO, September 27. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has called the elimination of the last batch of Russia’s chemical stockpiles a historic event.

"Without fanfare, we can say that this is indeed a historic event given the huge amount of chemical stockpiles since the Soviet time. Specialists said it could be used to destroy everything that moves on the Earth several times," Putin said.
Although Russia had planned to complete the elimination of chemical stockpiles by 2020, this was done ahead of schedule this year, Putin said.

"This [elimination of chemical weapons] is a huge step towards making the modern world more balanced and safer," Putin said. So, Russia "will meet its key international commitments on the convention on banning chemical weapons."

According to Putin, the United States "does not comply with its obligations regarding the terms for chemical weapons disposal: It postponed disposal terms three times already, including at the pretext of lack of budget financial assets, which, honestly speaking, sounds rather strange." "We expect that the United States, like other countries, will fulfil its obligations under international agreements," the Russian leader concluded.

More:
TASS: Russian Politics & Diplomacy - Putin lauds elimination of last chemical agent from Russian stockpiles as ?historic event?

Putin single-handedly wiped out 850 bad guys in Syria last week.

850 fighters, 11 tanks, 46 armed pickup trucks, 20 lorries, 38 ammo dumps and five mortar emplacements. Not a bad days work. Don't mess with Vlad.

https://www.rt.com/news/403980-syria...-idlib-russia/

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It seems that you've got a wrong picture to the news:

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Putin lauds elimination of last chemical agent from Russian stockpiles as ‘historic event’

September 27, 15:52
Russia has completed the elimination of its chemical weapons stock ahead of schedule and the last batch was destroyed on Wednesday

NOVO-OGAREVO, September 27. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has called the elimination of the last batch of Russia’s chemical stockpiles a historic event.

"Without fanfare, we can say that this is indeed a historic event given the huge amount of chemical stockpiles since the Soviet time. Specialists said it could be used to destroy everything that moves on the Earth several times," Putin said.
Although Russia had planned to complete the elimination of chemical stockpiles by 2020, this was done ahead of schedule this year, Putin said.

"This [elimination of chemical weapons] is a huge step towards making the modern world more balanced and safer," Putin said. So, Russia "will meet its key international commitments on the convention on banning chemical weapons."

According to Putin, the United States "does not comply with its obligations regarding the terms for chemical weapons disposal: It postponed disposal terms three times already, including at the pretext of lack of budget financial assets, which, honestly speaking, sounds rather strange." "We expect that the United States, like other countries, will fulfil its obligations under international agreements," the Russian leader concluded.

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TASS: Russian Politics & Diplomacy - Putin lauds elimination of last chemical agent from Russian stockpiles as ?historic event?

Why is it a surprise that they would get rid of cold war chemical weapons?

No mention of the new ones they've probably developed, however.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why is it a surprise that they would get rid of cold war chemical weapons?

No mention of the new ones they've probably developed, however

A lesson in a logical conclusion:
if something was planned in 2020, but finished now, while not minding that his adversary has not made any effort: that's a surprise.

BTW, Harry, while you are so well informed about the new development of Vlad's chemical weapons, enlighten us about the current production of the US chemical weapons, or have the factories been already demolished? (or perhaps modified to a Tilenol production?). You surely know something, don't you?

(Please forgive my poor ThEnglisch)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

A lesson in a logical conclusion:
if something was planned in 2020, but finished now, while not minding that his adversary has not made any effort: that's a surprise.

BTW, Harry, while you are so well informed about the new development of Vlad's chemical weapons, enlighten us about the current production of the US chemical weapons, or have the factories been already demolished? (or perhaps modified to a Tilenol production?). You surely know something, don't you?

(Please forgive my poor ThEnglisch)

If you think all the major powers haven't got their own Porton Downs, you are a bigger imbecile than I thought, and trust me that's big.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If you think all the major powers haven't got their own Porton Downs, you are a bigger imbecile than I thought, and trust me that's big.

What do you think about my imbecilness is not so interesting - and it has nothing brought to the topic.
The topic is the surprising statement. And the point is that something like this has not been (sofar) issued by another peace-loving superpower.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

What do you think about my imbecilness is not so interesting - and it has nothing brought to the topic.
The topic is the surprising statement. And the point is that something like this has not been (sofar) issued by another peace-loving superpower.

The surprise is that you are actually dumb enough to believe this shit.

Yet another one of your useless fucking cut and pastes.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The surprise is that you are actually dumb enough to believe this shit.
Yet another one of your useless fucking cut and pastes.

Harry, you are used to the fact that your establishment always lies to you (and to others). So, it's quite a shock the discovering that there are others who do not.
However, after all, why they should play fairly, anyway...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Harry, you are used to the fact that your establishment always lies to you (and to others). So, it's quite a shock the discovering that there are others who do not.
However, after all, why they should play fairly, anyway...

Fuck me, I wish there was a Google Translate language for fucking idiotic.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

If you think all the major powers haven't got their own Porton Downs

I'm sure somewhere in the world the production is still ongoing.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Not a bad days work. Don't mess with Vlad.

I hope his horse has been given an extra ration of oats.

Just listening to dangerous Mr. Putin - and others - who are live on RT at panel talk of a Energy Conference in Moscow.

Wondering whether Harry has not missed it to know more about thoughts of his friend Vlad?

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Just listening to dangerous Mr. Putin - and others - who are live on RT at panel talk of a Energy Conference in Moscow.

Wondering whether Harry has not missed it to know more about thoughts of his friend Vlad?

I don't watch RT, it's a propaganda channel like VOA and Press TV you idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't watch RT, it's a propaganda channel like VOA and Press TV you idiot.

How do you know, when you do not watch it, you i....? Perhaps from hearsay?
(Do not worry about the i-word, it is not idiot, it is something worse, it starts on s, ending on gnorant...)

Originally Posted by Klondyke

How do you know, when you do not watch it, you i....? Perhaps from hearsay?
(Do not worry about the i-word, it is not idiot, it is something worse, it starts on s, ending on gnorant...)

Again, since perhaps it didn't sink in:

You idiot.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't watch RT, it's a propaganda channel like VOA and Press TV you idiot.

and the rest of the news channels are good and mighty and tell you the truth ... always? You are living in La La land like many that is t

Originally Posted by global

and the rest of the news channels are good and mighty and tell you the truth ... always? You are living in La La land like many that is t

The rest of the news channels (or most of them) are not state-controlled propaganda and have editorial independence.

Well, except to whackjobs like yourself anyway.

This is what earns Emmys in Russia



If you don’t watch Russian television, perhaps you’ve never heard of Pervyi Kanal’s evening news broadcast “Vremya” or Rossiya-1’s weekend review show “Vesti Nedeli,” but they’re two of the most watched and influential news programs in the country.

This year, the Russian Academy of Sciences awarded TEFIs to both these largely pro-government TV shows, which air on state-owned networks. As a kind of retrospective, Anna Krasnoperova at The Insider reviewed five of the most notorious fake stories these programs reported in recent years.

1: Alexey Navalny works for the CIA


In April 2016, Dmitry Kiselyov’s “Vesti Nedeli” show aired a report accusing oppositionist and anti-corruption activist Alexey Navalny of cooperating with British and American intelligence agencies. The report was littered with oddities that raise serious questions about its credibility: supposed intelligence agents wrote in poor, bizarre English; an audiotape didn’t match Navalny's real voice; and, on two occasions, Navalny apparently time traveled, based on the timestamps found on “secret correspondence.”


The report also featured comments by three notoriously unreliable figures: Pavel Karpov, the police investigator who opened the criminal case that was ultimately used to arrest Sergey Magnitsky; Oleg Lurye, a journalist previously imprisoned for blackmailing the wife of a senator; and Alexander Mercouris, a disgraced, disbarred British lawyer who frequently appears in pro-Kremlin media, sometimes identified as a “Greek political analyst” or an “international affairs expert.”


2: The “rape” of Little Lisa


On January 11, 2016, Pervyi Kanal reported a fake story that would later be used in case studies of “Russian disinformation.” When a 13-year-old Russian-German girl named Lisa F. reappeared in Berlin after going missing for three days, she initially claimed that she’d been kidnapped and raped by three Arab migrants. Further investigation debunked this story, however, and Lisa later admitted that she went hiding voluntarily and wasn’t raped.


Even after police refuted the rumors about Lisa’s case, Pervyi Kanal continued airing news segments about her supposed rape. Apparently reacting to the coverage on Russian television, some Russian Germans even staged demonstrations in several parts of Germany to protest what Russian Foreign Ministry Sergey Lavrov called the German authorities’ tendency “to paint over reality in a politically correct manner for domestic reasons.”


A magazine run by NATO later called the Russian media’s coverage of the “Lisa case” a “wake up call for German political elites.”


3: Germany's Syrian refugee welfare king


Pervyi Kanal was one of many media outlets to report the fake story of a Syrian refugee named “Ghazia A.” living in Germany with his four wives and 23 kids, supposedly pulling down almost half a million bucks in welfare checks. In this same news report, Pervyi Kanal also recycled phony claims (later deleted from its website) that Austria’s Supreme Court acquitted an Iraqi refugee for raping a 10-year-old boy. (In fact, the man was sentenced to several years in prison.)


The report about Ghazia A., which first appeared in the German newspaper Rhein-Zeitung, was based on mostly false information. No German government official ever verified that a Syrian refugee was collecting so much money in benefits, and the “360,000 euros” figure actually comes from a financial expert named Hubert Königsstein, who merely speculated that a man in Ghazia A.’s situation could claim such benefits.


A municipality spokesperson told the German news service Deutsche Welle, however, that this isn’t how benefits work in Germany, where polygamy is prohibited, meaning that the Syrian refugee would have had to select one wife and claim her respective children for any social assistance.


At the end of the segment, Pervyi Kanal’s reporter even intentionally mispronounced Ghazia A.’s name to make a joke.


4: Refugees terrorize the Swedish city of Malmö


On February 19, Pervyi Kanal aired a report from Malmö, describing Sweden’s third biggest city as a “remote corner” of the country transformed into a dystopian hellhole by a “criminal wave” of Arab migrants. The report claimed incorrectly that Muslim immigrants make up 43 percent of the city’s population (in fact, only 32 percent of the city’s residents were born abroad, and far from all of them are Muslim).


Pervyi Kanal also presented Fridhem, a neighborhood in Malmö, as a particularly dangerous area, though local sources told The Insider that it’s actually a generally peaceful place. According to the crowd-sourced global database Numbeo, Malmö’s overall level of crime is “moderate,” scoring it significantly higher than American metropolises like Baltimore and Chicago.


As it happens, a day before Pervyi Kanal's report on Malmö, U.S. President Donald Trump made headlines by alluding to a nonexistent terrorist attack in Sweden. “Sweden, who would believe this?” Trump asked a crowd of supporters in Florida.


The president later explained that he was referring to a segment aired on Fox News, where filmmaker Ami Horowitz claimed that migrants in Sweden are responsible for a new crime wave. Two Swedish police officers interviewed in Horowitz’s documentary later told reporters that their comments were edited selectively and taken out of context.


5: Creative dubbing in France


On May 15, “Vesti Nedeli” aired a segment about “the political situation in Europe,” focusing on the “growing Euroskeptic movement in France.” The show’s correspondent interviewed several activists who demonstrated against a new labor law, but the Russian dubbing completely changed their comments, rewriting what they said from start to finish as a rant against immigrants.


Needless to say, French television ridiculed the news report, and even tracked down the protesters interviewed by “Vesti Nedeli,” who were horrified to learn how their comments had been mistranslated for Russian viewers.



https://meduza.io/en/feature/2017/10...mmys-in-russia

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

I don't watch RT, it's a propaganda channel

You don't half spout a load of shite Harry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The rest of the news channels (or most of them) are not state-controlled propaganda and have editorial independence.

Stop it man, you're killing me.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The rest of the news channels (or most of them) are not state-controlled propaganda and have editorial independence.

The "independence" strictly supervized by Rupert Murdoch and his "friends"...

Originally Posted by Klondyke

The "independence" strictly supervized by Rupert Murdoch and his "friends"...

Funny how idiots like you and albert would rather believe dictator-controlled state media than any other.

Pair of morons.

And funny how schmucks like you actually believe the blinkered, myopic, partisan shite your favoured propaganda leads you to believe.

FOH