Thread: Contact lost with Malaysia Plane.

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Link.....

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

http://SouthPacificEngagement.com

From SIT post above.

Australian leader Tony Abbott says authorities are confident that signals heard in the Indian Ocean are coming from the "black box" flight recorders of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane.

Speaking in China, he said teams had "very much narrowed" the search area.

An Australian vessel has on four occasions picked up signals consistent with flight recorders, officials say.

But a fifth signal picked up by a plane on Thursday is now thought unlikely to be linked to flight MH370.

The Malaysian plane vanished on 8 March, with 239 people on board. It was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing when it lost contact with air traffic controllers.

Based on satellite data, officials believe it crashed into the southern Indian Ocean, west of the Australian city of Perth, far from its intended flight path.

Narrowed search
An Australian vessel, the Ocean Shield, has been using a US Navy towed pinger locator to listen out. Signals were detected twice over the weekend and twice on Tuesday.

This handout photo taken on 7 April 2014 and released on 9 April 2014 by Australian Defence shows Gunner Richard Brown (L) of Transit Security Element on the lookout on the forecastle of HMAS Perth in the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean
Ships and planes have been scouring a narrowed search area for signs of the missing plane
malaysian airliner search
File photo: An Australian RAAF P-3 Orion returns to Base Pearce after a day of searching an area in the Indian Ocean for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, 8 April 2014
The possible signal heard by an Australia P-3 Orion is unlikely to relate to the missing plane, officials say
Speaking in China during an official visit, Mr Abbott said search teams needed as much information as possible from the acoustic signals before the black-box batteries ran out.

"It's [the search area] been very much narrowed down because we've now had a series of detections, some for quite a long period of time,'' Mr Abbott said.

"Nevertheless, we're getting to the stage where the signal from the black box is starting to fade."

He also said that officials were confident that they knew "the position of the black box flight recorder to within some kilometres".

"Still, confidence in the approximate position of the black box is not the same as recovering wreckage from almost 4.5km (2.6 miles) beneath the sea or finally determining all that happened on that flight."

On Thursday an Australian aircraft picked up an audio signal in the same area as the four previous detections.

But the Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre had analysed the data and confirmed that the signal was "unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes", said Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, who heads the agency overseeing the search.

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MH370 - Facts at a glance

8 March: Malaysia Airlines Kuala Lumpur-Beijing flight carrying 239 people disappears
Plane's transponder, which communicates with ground radar, was switched off as it left Malaysian airspace
Satellite 'pings' indicate plane was still flying seven hours after satellite contact was lost
24 March: Based on new calculations, Malaysian PM says "beyond reasonable doubt" that plane crashed in southern Indian Ocean with no survivors
What we know
The search for flight MH370
He said that there had been "no major breakthrough in the search for MH370".

ACM Houston has cautioned that search work using the towed pinger locator will continue until officials are sure that the black-box batteries - which last about a month - have run out.

At that point the Bluefin 21 submersible drone will be sent down to search for wreckage on the sea floor, but this could be a laborious and pain-staking task made more difficult by the presence of silt.

On Friday, up to 15 aircraft and 13 ships were involved in the search, which was targeting a reduced area of 46,713 square kilometres.

As the Ocean Shield continues to listen for acoustic signals, ships and aircraft are combing another area for possible debris from the plane, based on analysis of ocean drift.

"Yesterday there were no sightings reported by search aircraft or objects recovered by ships," the co-ordinating agency said in a statement on Friday morning.

Investigators still do not know why MH370 strayed so far off course, after disappearing over the South China Sea between Malaysia and Vietnam.

The backgrounds of both passengers and crew have been scrutinised as officials consider hijacking, sabotage, pilot action or mechanical failure as possible causes.

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BBC News - Missing plane MH370: Abbott 'confident' over signals

I think they will find, the hidden nazi gold, the holy grail, and the original ten commandments before they find that plane. I hear a pinging in my kitchen. Is it the missing plane of my microwave telling me my reheated coffee is hot?

CNN) -- Elevated hopes that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 might soon be found were tempered Friday, when the joint search agency said the latest signal probably isn't from the missing plane.

The most recent acoustic signal detected by an Australian aircraft in the search Thursday is "unlikely to be related to the aircraft black boxes," Australian chief search coordinator Angus Houston said in a statement Friday.

"On the information I have available to me, there has been no major breakthrough in the search for MH370," Houston said.
"Further analysis continues to be undertaken by Australian Joint Acoustic Analysis Centre."

But Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott told reporters in China on Friday that authorities are "very confident" the signals picked up by acoustic detectors are coming from the black box of missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, CNN affiliate Sky News Australia reported.

It's unclear whether Abbott was referring to four signals detected earlier this week.
5th signal detected 'not likely' from MH370 black boxes, officials say - CNN.com

Originally Posted by aging one

I think they will find, the hidden nazi gold, the holy grail, and the original ten commandments before they find that plane. I hear a pinging in my kitchen. Is it the missing plane of my microwave telling me my reheated coffee is hot?

When all [the secrets] is hashed out, what conclusions might we gain from this latest episode?

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by aging one

I think they will find, the hidden nazi gold, the holy grail, and the original ten commandments before they find that plane. I hear a pinging in my kitchen. Is it the missing plane of my microwave telling me my reheated coffee is hot?

When all [the secrets] is hashed out, what conclusions might we gain from this latest episode?

That we are mushrooms, kept in the dark and feed on bull shit.

Originally Posted by jamescollister

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by aging one

I think they will find, the hidden nazi gold, the holy grail, and the original ten commandments before they find that plane. I hear a pinging in my kitchen. Is it the missing plane of my microwave telling me my reheated coffee is hot?

When all [the secrets] is hashed out, what conclusions might we gain from this latest episode?

That we are mushrooms, kept in the dark and feed on bull shit.

Same as it ever was.

This is a report when the Malaysian Government discounted the islanders reports.

Hope this helps
Malaysia rejects reports of possible MH370 sighting in Maldives - Channel NewsAsia

Originally Posted by chassamui

Originally Posted by Bobcock

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Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

http://SouthPacificEngagement.com

From SIT post above.

Ya sorry Chass, BBC and just about every other news agency have quoted him as saying this. Kojo has posted the whole script as has been reported

Originally Posted by Thormaturge

So we have an oil rig worker who has seen a plane descending in flames plus people on the maldives seeing a low-flying plane overhead. With all these planes dropping out of the sky it seems air travel isn't as safe as we were previously given to believe.

It gets worse ....there's another one captured by the Taliban and one down in the Southern Indian ocean somewhere off Australia..... the place is littered with planes. Worse than driving in Thailand these days.....

Authorities have been telling HUGE porkies about MH 370's fuel capacity and range.

A Boeing 777 200 ER can carry enough fuel to fly from Malaysia to London or Oslo or LA, it could have made the flight to NZ and back to Malaysia.

It's range is given as 7,700 nautical miles or 13,300 kilometres.

The plane could have easily been flown to anywhere across Africa, west coast the limit.

So why all the guff about the plane running out of fuel and crashing?

Especially since MA knows exactly how much fuel MH 370 was carrying and refusing to publish the info.

Have a squiz at this site.....
http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com..._singapore.pdf

KL to Beijing is only 2,700 miles, 5 hours 10 mins flying time, about one third of its 7,700 n.miles maximum range.

Originally Posted by ENT

Authorities have been telling HUGE porkies about MH 370's fuel capacity and range.

A Boeing 777 200 ER can carry enough fuel to fly from Malaysia to London or Oslo or LA, it could have made the flight to NZ and back to Malaysia.

It's range is given as 7,700 nautical miles or 13,300 kilometres.

The plane could have easily been flown to anywhere across Africa, west coast the limit.

So why all the guff about the plane running out of fuel and crashing?

Especially since MA knows exactly how much fuel MH 370 was carrying and refusing to publish the info.

Have a squiz at this site.....
http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/com..._singapore.pdf

The "authorities" gave the estimated range for the fuel on board. They don't always fill up the tanks for the AC's maximum range when they only need to fly for a quarter of that range. Why would they want to carry all that extra weight if they don't need to??

Originally Posted by koman

The "authorities" gave the estimated range for the fuel on board. They don't always fill up the tanks for the AC's maximum range when they only need to fly for a quarter of that range. Why would they want to carry all that extra weight if they don't need to??

The authorities did indeed give their "estimate", but that's all they gave.

The captain could have added more fuel before take off at his discretion.


This from another source;

"Mr Hansford pointed to the amount of fuel likely on board the Boeing 777-200, at nearly full capacity with 31,000 gallons instead of the 45 per cent loading required to pilot a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, as being a strong indicator that MH370's disappearance was not accidental."

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That little snippet, "nearly full capacity" is what the captain asked the plane to be topped up to, unnecessary for the Beijing trip.

Why?

Originally Posted by ENT

hat little snippet, "nearly full capacity" is what the captain asked the plane to be topped up to, unnecessary for the Beijing trip.

Why?

Because fuel is cheaper in Malaysia than China, even when you take into account the cost of 'ferrying' the return fuel load with you.

Fuel ferrying?

Anyone care to do the maths and work out how much the price difference would have to be to make it worthwhile.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...64542518,d.Yms


Captain has to sign for the fuel request and the delivery is recorded so authorities will know the exact amount of fuel on board the aircraft.

Spot on, Troy.

Originally Posted by Neverna

That little snippet was preceded by "likely" - the amount of fuel likely on board the Boeing 777-200. Mr Hansford did not state as fact the plane was at nearly full capacity, did he?

Still plenty of speculation: suggests, likely, I think, possibly, thought to be, could have been, could conceivably, likelihood, possible debris ...

^ BTW, that Daily Mail article is 3 weeks old.

Exactly! Forget what that rag the Daily Mail publishes - should get a prize for bullshit!

MH370 co-pilot made mid-flight phone call: report
April 12, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR - The co-pilot of missing Malaysian airliner MH370 attempted to make a mid-flight call from his mobile phone just before the plane vanished from radar screens, a report said Saturday citing unnamed investigators.

The call ended abruptly possibly "because the aircraft was fast moving away from the (telecommunications) tower", The New Straits Times quoted a source as saying.

But the Malaysian daily also quoted another source saying that while Fariq Abdul Hamid’s "line was reattached", there was no certainty that a call was made from the Boeing 777 that vanished on March 8.

The report -- titled a "desperate call for help" -- did not say who he was trying to contact.

Fariq and Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah have come under intense scrutiny after the plane mysteriously vanished en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board.

nationmultimedia.com

Originally Posted by Mid

MH370 co-pilot made mid-flight phone call: report
April 12, 2014

KUALA LUMPUR - The co-pilot of missing Malaysian airliner MH370 attempted to make a mid-flight call from his mobile phone just before the plane vanished from radar screens, a report said Saturday citing unnamed investigators.

nationmultimedia.com

Sounds like total bullshit. No way a cellphone can make contact from out there.